Something needs to be done about the issues regarding bounties, and the Altcoin section in general. Although, I'm not sure what the best solution is, and none of the effective ways are without restrictions. But, something does needs to happen.
These are just some of the solutions which have been brought up:
- Additional moderators
Taking into consideration of theymos' post he doesn't really know that many users that he would consider appropriate for the job, and trustworthy. Even, if he had a few in mind I don't that this would be that effective considering the amount of spam over there, and how many bounties there are.
- Prevent certain ranks bumping the topic
This could be a option to remove the bumping bots, and bumping services issues that we are currently having. Most of the bumping is done by Newbies, and Jr members. There's a few that have higher ranked accounts, but it would be severely limited if we did impose bumping restrictions on certain ranks. This could maybe be limited to certain sections, and wouldn't be site wide.
- Disable signatures
Whether this is for everyone, behind a paywall or certain members aren't allowed to wear one. This wouldn't get rid of merit beggars, and would actually make it worse. I'm not sure if this is the right approach, and whether it would solve anything. At the end of the day you'll still have people attempting to get merit, and spamming in order to do that. Putting it behind a paywall could work. But, if bounties are promising high returns then they'll likely be willing to invest in a one time fee for a signature.
There's several other ideas, but those are the ones that I can remember right now. All of them involve putting restrictions somewhere, and I'm normally against imposing restrictions until the very last resort. However, I don't believe there's any other option. Things need to start happening, because I'm personally sick of the spam now, and I'm sure the majority of the forum is. Another extreme measure which was suggested was to remove the altcoin/bounty section altogether. but I'm personally not a fan of that approach.
I think I've probably been pissing off mprep with sending reports their way, and any other moderator that has to deal with them. The reports normally get dealt within a few hours so I'm not sure if they are understaffed or whether there just needs to be more users reporting. But, what I do know is that it's currently not working.
Topic: Disable signatures/bounties til a user reaches full member status. - page 7. (Read 2471 times)
July 09, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
July 09, 2018, 03:34:05 PM
I'm sure most of you have noticed the overwhelming amount of merit begging posts or posts about merit in general. Most of the reason these users are begging so hard for the merit is due to earnings in signature campaigns.
You can also look in the altcoins sections and see the thousands of accounts who are only making posts in bounty campaigns. Claiming facebook, twitter, telegram, etc. Quite a few of those accounts are also being accused of being connected in the reputation section. ALT ALT ALT or whatnot.
The main reason I am adding bounties into this post is due to the overwhelming amount of users who apparently cannot read. I try to get users to use google forms in bounty campaigns when I decide to run 1, but users insist on not reading a bounty thread and just posting their tweets and shares in the bounty thread, creating a bunch of useless spam. Should there be penalties for this? My personal opinion is idk. It could go either way honestly.
Bounties IMO are mainly social media focused or at least should be. I won't allow a company to use a bounty for their signature campaign. That must be ran on a bitcoin paying basis only to prevent some of the useless spam that bounty campaigns create with running signature campaigns in them.
I'd like to see all bounty managers adopt this practice but of course I cannot make that happen.
I know this topic has been touched on and passed over a few times, but I feel like it's time to really take a serious look at the request.
There are obviously good and bad things that will come from this being put into place. Good things being eventually these shit posters and "bounty hunters" will lose interest and stop visiting the forum thinking they're gonna make billions from the many worthless tokens that are announced.
Bad things being of course the same issue. The forum will lose some users who cannot rank up and earn due to not getting merits for their shit posts. More how do I get merit threads will be made because users are too goddamn lazy to search and read the 5000 threads on merit that already exist.
Overall though we will get rid of a bunch of trashposters and maybe they will take down the signs in their internet cafes that read, "Go to bitcointalk.org to feed your family" My goal in this post is not to take away from bitcointalk traffic or harm the forum in any other way, but just take a look around and look at the shit that's posted mainly. The economy section is filled with spammers, the altcoin section is even worse.
At the very least, lets use this thread to have a healthy discussion on ways to improve the forum. I'm sure some of you have better ideas than this, so I'd like to hear them and maybe theymos can chime in with some of his thoughts.
I'm not against advertising or users earning money, but when that's their main focus , it does nothing to help the forum or community grow. If you have a useful suggestion, then by all means post it here and lets get the ball rolling on some ways to improve things around here.
You can also look in the altcoins sections and see the thousands of accounts who are only making posts in bounty campaigns. Claiming facebook, twitter, telegram, etc. Quite a few of those accounts are also being accused of being connected in the reputation section. ALT ALT ALT or whatnot.
The main reason I am adding bounties into this post is due to the overwhelming amount of users who apparently cannot read. I try to get users to use google forms in bounty campaigns when I decide to run 1, but users insist on not reading a bounty thread and just posting their tweets and shares in the bounty thread, creating a bunch of useless spam. Should there be penalties for this? My personal opinion is idk. It could go either way honestly.
Bounties IMO are mainly social media focused or at least should be. I won't allow a company to use a bounty for their signature campaign. That must be ran on a bitcoin paying basis only to prevent some of the useless spam that bounty campaigns create with running signature campaigns in them.
I'd like to see all bounty managers adopt this practice but of course I cannot make that happen.
I know this topic has been touched on and passed over a few times, but I feel like it's time to really take a serious look at the request.
There are obviously good and bad things that will come from this being put into place. Good things being eventually these shit posters and "bounty hunters" will lose interest and stop visiting the forum thinking they're gonna make billions from the many worthless tokens that are announced.
Bad things being of course the same issue. The forum will lose some users who cannot rank up and earn due to not getting merits for their shit posts. More how do I get merit threads will be made because users are too goddamn lazy to search and read the 5000 threads on merit that already exist.
Overall though we will get rid of a bunch of trashposters and maybe they will take down the signs in their internet cafes that read, "Go to bitcointalk.org to feed your family" My goal in this post is not to take away from bitcointalk traffic or harm the forum in any other way, but just take a look around and look at the shit that's posted mainly. The economy section is filled with spammers, the altcoin section is even worse.
At the very least, lets use this thread to have a healthy discussion on ways to improve the forum. I'm sure some of you have better ideas than this, so I'd like to hear them and maybe theymos can chime in with some of his thoughts.
I'm not against advertising or users earning money, but when that's their main focus , it does nothing to help the forum or community grow. If you have a useful suggestion, then by all means post it here and lets get the ball rolling on some ways to improve things around here.
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