Topic: Discussion between SolidCoin Founder and Gavin Andresen - page 2. (Read 6440 times)

(not directed at nguoinhaque)

I can't believe people are really buying into RS's gig.  It's total propaganda.

I'm going to go ahead and make a guess that each one of the SC footsoldiers have been taken aside personally by RS and told how thankful he is for the support and how their involvement is crucial.  He probably let his walls down a little, showed them the 'person' behind the persona.  How (he is just telling ONE person this,don't tell anyone else) it gets him down sometimes with all the flames, but he is glad he has their support.

If I guessed right, welcome to Scammy McScammerVille.



What would have happened if we 'just stopped fighting' during WW2?  NAZIS, that's what.



Edit:  Wanna know whats bad for cryptocurrencies? https://i.imgur.com/xGoYI.png .  Yeah.  RS is the one slingin the most mud.

And you should have listened... thanks for banning my account on your forum mr duche bag..... lol. what an a$$...

I agree that CoinHunter's behavior is immature and not professional (I guess his age is under 25 and very likely under 20) but I don't suppose ArtForz is a good guy. If CoinHunter didn't admit SolidCoin's weekness, ArtForz should post his argument here to show how stupid and arrogant CoinHunter is instead of attacking SolidCoin. I think ArtForz is:
+ The same guy as CoinHunter (immature and not professional). Want to show he is correct immediately when CoinHunter ignore his warning
+ A guy want SolidCoin to die

I don't like CoinHunter but he might correct when he said (in SolidCoin forum, I can't remember the exact post) that guys here attacking him and SolidCoin for the only reason: MONEY
This war is very bad for SolidCoin, Bitcoin and also very bad for cryptography currency community. I'm a fan of cryptography currency and really want this war be ended

Seems you, him, and I do the same thing.

Brilliant.

Craig

Bullshit. If the same attack was possible with Bitcoin, it would have been done long ago.
And oh, the very creation of solidcoin was an attack too: http://solidcoin.info/solidcoin-ready-for-bitcoin-collapse.php
It failed as well.

Total bs.  Gavin needs to focus on gavin, all devs not only hate this "scene", but have taken it to the point where these forums are not connected with Bitcoin.org.   Stop the silly slander and any focus on Gavin, misunderstanding, he has nothing to do with the shit going on.

And if you can't understand why it would be a good idea to listen then you're more far gone than I originally thought.  Pull your head in.

Anyway, all this is moot now as we have the new open source client.  Do with yours as you will.

The big joke is you seem to think ArtForz has no reason to dislike you that much.

That's wrong, the same attack (and others artforz is aware of) are possible with Bitcoin, at relatively little expense. The reason artforz decided to attack SolidCoin was due to his own ego, dislike for me and the project and the fact he is malicious in nature. Artforz "warning" me is also a bit of a joke, he sent me about 5 lines of text, mainly talking about 51% attacks. I simply said the "extra" 51% attacks are irrelevant because at 51% you're dead anyhow. This somehow get's translated into me "fobbing him off" and "not listening" . It's a bit of a joke.

I don't like a few people it doesn't mean I want to harm them. That is the difference between a professional and a hacker who couldn't care less. Anyone cheering on the SC attacks is just asking to be proved a fool when bitcoin is attacked in the same manner.

In regards to Gavin, if he didn't come to the channel ignorant about what had been going on with regards to attacks to SolidCoin and some of bitcoin developers comments and attitudes things would have gone a lot better. It was fathers day that day, and I had to spend part of my day away from my family dealing with more shit from a hacker. He was asking me a favour and insulted me in the process. Obviously bitcoin supporters won't be happy with the conversation because I didn't act like Jesus entered the channel but I do feel the lead developer of Bitcoin shouldn't be ignorant about what is going on in his own "scene". And he should try at least to use his influence with people he knows.

FORK YOU!
Fork you right back.
FORK YOU GAVIN!

Are you crazy? He caused the bullshit by lying his ass off about BitCoin whilst releasing a far less stable copy of BitCoin.

The guy is not stable enough to be project lead on his own shopping.

You have to accept that the intention was not to offend, it was just harsh truth regarding ArtForz who, though in a way I fucking hate beyond belief, is doing that dev / programmer thing of breaking other peoples toys for no real reason.   I still think what he did is shit, but man, attempting to slander Gavin's name through the forums as a "Hacker Supporter" when that is blowing what he is saying out of proportions.  If he told ArtForz to do the attacks, he is a hacker supporter.  If he even said what Art did was a good thing, he is a hacker supporter.  He only said for you to listen to him, and take it as a compliment that it took a 'smart guy' fuck with your network, it would have sucked if he was an idiot.

I can't agree with you enough here, it makes me sad some of the actions that come from Bitcoin users.  I don't think they teach 'be the bigger person' in school anymore or something.

If it survives, yes.   Will it be the same for SolidCoin, time will tell, I think you are doing well so far with so much bullshit going on with SolidCoin.

No, Gavin told you you should have listened. He was right. The network wouldn't have even been attackable if you weren't such an arrogant prick. Like when you flipped out on me for asking if you'd be willing to let me go over ArtForz' disclosure with you to see if it was a problem. I think your private response to me included an accusation that ArtForz was just jealous and full of shit, right?

I understand Gavin has very little influence or control over the other developers. What I didn't appreciate was Gavin telling me to "listen to" the hacker which attacked the network. I had already fixed the issues which artforz was taking advantage of to disrupt service to thousands of people. If you can't see that it is indeed offensive to come into a channel and tell someone that the guy attacking the network you support is smart and worthy of being listened to then I can't help you.

If artforz had any decency about him he would have simply left our discussion where it was (about 5 lines worth). Instead he went malicious and people are congratulating him on it? The mind boggles.

When bitcoin starts being attacked will the same people be congratulating the FBI or SomethingAwful trolls for "strengthening" the network?

More +1 Gavin praise.  I had not read all that shit until now.  Even giving the benefit of the doubt to RealSolid on how he initially went into the conversation, his not accepting the fact that Gavin does not = the Bitcoin supporters nor control them, well there you go, the rest of the conversation is pretty much moot after that.

Oh, is that what they call people who modify code they don't understand now?

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Dear lord, please forgive me for giving CoinHunter a stiffie that's unrealistically large.

There, much easier than doing it in the block chain.

the most destructive thing you can put in the block chain is a penis ascii.
....or prayers.

either way, won't do much damage.

haha

Given some of this guy's posts I think he probably thinks the internet is a big series of tubes.