If they could add a child board "Education" where people could demonstrate how to run commands/build open source applications themselves, the things they should avoid doing when dealing with certain softwares etc, then I'd vote yes, asking administration to consider please.
That sounds great. Maybe 'Education' and 'News' as 2 sub-boards with all the other threads belonging to the main board. 
Topic: Discussion: "Cybersecurity and Privacy" board + Poll (request v1) - page 7. (Read 3178 times)
January 24, 2023, 08:21:08 AM
January 24, 2023, 05:36:27 AM
I find the idea of a section dedicated to this topic interesting.
Although we all have different concepts of security and privacy, and use different methods to apply them, it would be good to analyze different perspectives, so that as a whole we can all improve our security and privacy.
Although we all have different concepts of security and privacy, and use different methods to apply them, it would be good to analyze different perspectives, so that as a whole we can all improve our security and privacy.
Exactly!
If they could add a child board "Education" where people could demonstrate how to run commands/build open source applications themselves, the things they should avoid doing when dealing with certain softwares etc, then I'd vote yes, asking administration to consider please.
I am working on updating the original post at the moment that compiles suggestions from posters here, adds more precedent/justification for the board and also past threads that would move into the board/one of its sub-boards. This gives me the additional idea to create a few proposed board setups too. I will add that to the list. I am working on it in the little spare time I have at the moment but it will be done! Thank you for the suggestion.
I'd lean towards having the 'general, organic' cybersecurity part up front and the 'news / press' in a sub-board, though.
Only thing I disagree with is the caption, that seems too specific for me. It's not just about protecting your own machines, but also about general concepts, research discussion and whatever people feel like discussing.
Only thing I disagree with is the caption, that seems too specific for me. It's not just about protecting your own machines, but also about general concepts, research discussion and whatever people feel like discussing.
With the above in mind, I will also work on a few board captions that can be discussed.
I would love for any of the 3 negative voters to post their reasoning as to why not The only thing that I can deduce is that it may be those who are somehow benefiting from peoples lack of cybersecurity. I would love to be enlightened if this is not the case though.
January 23, 2023, 09:58:50 PM
If they could add a child board "Education" where people could demonstrate how to run commands/build open source applications themselves, the things they should avoid doing when dealing with certain softwares etc, then I'd vote yes, asking administration to consider please.
January 23, 2023, 08:15:24 PM
I find the idea of a section dedicated to this topic interesting.
Although we all have different concepts of security and privacy, and use different methods to apply them, it would be good to analyze different perspectives, so that as a whole we can all improve our security and privacy.
Although we all have different concepts of security and privacy, and use different methods to apply them, it would be good to analyze different perspectives, so that as a whole we can all improve our security and privacy.
January 23, 2023, 08:13:48 PM
It's a yes from me. It would be nice to have a place to post about security/privacy topics (e.g. Tor, Tails, Qubes, Whonix, etc.) and help other members to improve their opsec and keep their BTC safe.
Right between B&H and Off-topic seems like a good spot:
I love how this looks. Also agree that a part of it reserved for cybersecurity news, breaches etc. with a certain title format would be helpful. Whether that's the main page and there's a sub-board for more 'organic' topics like advice, guides, and discussion, or the other way round, that's both fine for me.Right between B&H and Off-topic seems like a good spot:
'Hardware wallets' is pretty deeply buried, too, and I still visit it almost every day.
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Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Development & Technical Discussion > Wallet software > Hardware wallets
I'd lean towards having the 'general, organic' cybersecurity part up front and the 'news / press' in a sub-board, though.
Only thing I disagree with is the caption, that seems too specific for me. It's not just about protecting your own machines, but also about general concepts, research discussion and whatever people feel like discussing.
January 23, 2023, 07:23:10 PM
22 votes for to 1 vote against. I think it's a matter of when than if at this point.
Send a PM to theymos with a link to this thread, so that he can create it sooner.
Maybe when we hit 100 votes and he still has not appeared and/or made a comment by then, also once I have improved the OP some more, then I will do this!
So far the result :
"Cybersecurity and Privacy" board in "Other" cattegory
Yes - 24 (96%)
No - 1 (4%)
Total Voters: 25
I'm sure if many people will stumble or lead to this thread they will vote yes to have that category, we need this category with so much hacking and so many breaches going on, there are many articles and videos about Cybersecurity and Privacy but we want an in-depth discussion to get the best possible solution and results, I don't want only one guy teaching about security without being questioned on what he is discussing.
January 20, 2023, 03:39:32 AM
22 votes for to 1 vote against. I think it's a matter of when than if at this point.
Send a PM to theymos with a link to this thread, so that he can create it sooner.
Maybe when we hit 100 votes and he still has not appeared and/or made a comment by then, also once I have improved the OP some more, then I will do this!
January 20, 2023, 03:37:56 AM
22 votes for to 1 vote against. I think it's a matter of when than if at this point.
Send a PM to theymos with a link to this thread, so that he can create it sooner.
January 20, 2023, 12:42:38 AM
Would be good if it was setup like the Bitcoin Discussion > Press section.
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
The entire board or just cybersecurity/privacy news kind of threads? I think a sub-board within the Cybersecurity and Privacy board for news, just like the press board within Bitcoin Discussion would be great!
I would actually go the other way that the main board was with things that people could quickly glance at to see if it matters to them and below that a more open discussion. There would probably be some topic that would stay more or less at the top, and I would worry that others that are important / relevant to some people would gut buried unless they were forced into the date / subject order.
Using what I posted above, a discussion about firewall security could go on for pages and pages with people discussing brands and settings and whatever. A big obvious your old Cisco router is now vulnerable may get a few more eyeballs on it.
Just my view. I also think that if people can give a quick glance for 'Cisco' or 'Asus' or whatever it might help.
But also lets be serious, as a group we still can't get not your keys not your coins pounded thought some peoples heads.
-Dave
Ah. I don't know about the main board being restricted to a specific format like this. I think a sub-board would serve the same purpose well, while not restricting the main board to a certain format.
It's a yes from me. It would be nice to have a place to post about security/privacy topics (e.g. Tor, Tails, Qubes, Whonix, etc.) and help other members to improve their opsec and keep their BTC safe.
Right between B&H and Off-topic seems like a good spot:
Right between B&H and Off-topic seems like a good spot:
Fits well! It's nice to be able to visualize it.
22 votes for to 1 vote against. I think it's a matter of when than if at this point.
January 19, 2023, 08:45:34 PM
It's a yes from me. It would be nice to have a place to post about security/privacy topics (e.g. Tor, Tails, Qubes, Whonix, etc.) and help other members to improve their opsec and keep their BTC safe.
Right between B&H and Off-topic seems like a good spot:
Right between B&H and Off-topic seems like a good spot:
January 19, 2023, 01:51:21 PM
Would be good if it was setup like the Bitcoin Discussion > Press section.
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
...no.
Certainly those posts would be welcome in the new board, but introducing this kind of rule will inhibit any organic topics about cybersecurity.
This isn't bleepingcomputer after all, and there's no reason to make it like one.
January 19, 2023, 01:07:00 PM
Would be good if it was setup like the Bitcoin Discussion > Press section.
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
The entire board or just cybersecurity/privacy news kind of threads? I think a sub-board within the Cybersecurity and Privacy board for news, just like the press board within Bitcoin Discussion would be great!
I would actually go the other way that the main board was with things that people could quickly glance at to see if it matters to them and below that a more open discussion. There would probably be some topic that would stay more or less at the top, and I would worry that others that are important / relevant to some people would gut buried unless they were forced into the date / subject order.
Using what I posted above, a discussion about firewall security could go on for pages and pages with people discussing brands and settings and whatever. A big obvious your old Cisco router is now vulnerable may get a few more eyeballs on it.
Just my view. I also think that if people can give a quick glance for 'Cisco' or 'Asus' or whatever it might help.
But also lets be serious, as a group we still can't get not your keys not your coins pounded thought some peoples heads.
-Dave
January 19, 2023, 09:39:52 AM
Would be good if it was setup like the Bitcoin Discussion > Press section.
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
The entire board or just cybersecurity/privacy news kind of threads? I think a sub-board within the Cybersecurity and Privacy board for news, just like the press board within Bitcoin Discussion would be great!
Interestingly, if you skim through the hacker forums, there are always sections on cybersecurity and privacy. It turns out that this is useful for hackers; they have entire sections on how to protect themselves, and a forum that assumes knowledge of how to store your important data so that nothing is stolen from you is not interested in this.
I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
Thank you for the feedback! You are right about your comments about having to scour the internet for knowledge about cybersecurity. I hope that Bitcointalk becomes a resource for this kind of topic.
Interestingly, if you skim through the hacker forums, there are always sections on cybersecurity and privacy. It turns out that this is useful for hackers; they have entire sections on how to protect themselves, and a forum that assumes knowledge of how to store your important data so that nothing is stolen from you is not interested in this.
I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
Even though, the vast majority of hackers aren't hackers in the traditional sense, but use programs coded by others, and their security sections are usually quite basic. Whereas, I think given enough effort by certain users here, we might get some real useful information related to security since Bitcoin sort of attracts those sorts of people. I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
If there was anywhere I'd like to read about security issues it would be stack exchange dedicated to security or Bitcointalk, because of the types of users that are here. I know for one I'd be typing up a few things about security, but I imagine there's some other highly respected users here willing to teach us a thing or two. Potentially, even discussing the specifics of security involving Bitcoin. Technically, we have sections for that now, and there's been a reasonable amount of discussion on it over the years, but I feel having a new section dedicated to it could actually motivate users further to talk about it. Hence, why I'm not against this when you look at the demand.
I look forward to seeing some of your posts Welsh, and I would be right there with you on writing a few things up. You are right in that there are not enough places that really go in depth the allow the average user to become secure, in more ways than just "running an av" or "using a vpn", which commonly people think is enough to be secure. You're right as well on the type of people here on Bitcointalk who probably have much more extensive knowledge than those in other places. StackExchange is great, but I think the Bitcointalk community will create a great board for this topic.
January 18, 2023, 04:55:09 PM
Would be good if it was setup like the Bitcoin Discussion > Press section.
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.
[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities
And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.
This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.
-Dave
January 18, 2023, 04:36:47 PM
The only logical place to put it is within Other
Other -> Cybersecurity & Privacy
best to put it besides Beginner & Help.
Topics like:
Hacking incidents or tutorials on how to prevent them
News about potential wallet exploits and bugs (BTC or Altcoin)
Tutorials about anonymity
Other -> Cybersecurity & Privacy
best to put it besides Beginner & Help.
Topics like:
Hacking incidents or tutorials on how to prevent them
News about potential wallet exploits and bugs (BTC or Altcoin)
Tutorials about anonymity
I am a newbie but I vote YES with this suggestion.
January 18, 2023, 03:22:16 PM
Interestingly, if you skim through the hacker forums, there are always sections on cybersecurity and privacy. It turns out that this is useful for hackers; they have entire sections on how to protect themselves, and a forum that assumes knowledge of how to store your important data so that nothing is stolen from you is not interested in this.
I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
Even though, the vast majority of hackers aren't hackers in the traditional sense, but use programs coded by others, and their security sections are usually quite basic. Whereas, I think given enough effort by certain users here, we might get some real useful information related to security since Bitcoin sort of attracts those sorts of people. I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
If there was anywhere I'd like to read about security issues it would be stack exchange dedicated to security or Bitcointalk, because of the types of users that are here. I know for one I'd be typing up a few things about security, but I imagine there's some other highly respected users here willing to teach us a thing or two. Potentially, even discussing the specifics of security involving Bitcoin. Technically, we have sections for that now, and there's been a reasonable amount of discussion on it over the years, but I feel having a new section dedicated to it could actually motivate users further to talk about it. Hence, why I'm not against this when you look at the demand.
January 18, 2023, 03:16:06 PM
Interestingly, if you skim through the hacker forums, there are always sections on cybersecurity and privacy. It turns out that this is useful for hackers; they have entire sections on how to protect themselves, and a forum that assumes knowledge of how to store your important data so that nothing is stolen from you is not interested in this.
I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
I support your initiative, OP. You have almost begun to cover some useful aspects. It would be helpful to have proper guides from knowledgeable people who can help in a timely manner, rather than scouring the internet and trusting those who might be amateurs in the field of online security.
January 17, 2023, 12:39:42 PM
Security & Privacy section.
That's actually a neat idea. Both freedoms from risk in one board. Probably one of the few times I'd like to see something implemented not based on demand, but because I think it's somewhat important to understand.
If it doesn't get recognition, I'm not of the opinion that we should impose it (I mean, how could ever do it anyway, this forum isn't run by regular users), but it wouldn't be bad to try it out, and see how it goes. Also far better considering it does not focus on just special security topics such as Cybersecurity! With the increased involvement of high level coding such as chat gpt, AI is taking over swiftly. It has started now with one goal of making the world far more easier and reliable on AI. However, it will start imposing the security threats sooner than we think.
Security concerns such as this will start flourishing in no time. Its better we have such subforum where pre-discussions, alerts about AI hacks, preventive measures can be discussed prominently. This is must have subforum.
January 17, 2023, 10:43:36 AM
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Consumers aren't sheep; they can not only switch OS, but also e.g. use locked-down Windows VMs or dedicated machines for certain software that doesn't run on Linux, as well as spreading awareness of Microsoft's practices and pressuring software vendors to release Linux binaries and pressuring companies to switch to FOSS software that compiles for any machine.I agree with BlackHatCoiner that if lots of people cared for better privacy in their OS, more would switch, protest or complain, and thus show MS that they need to change their strategy.
Anyhow; this is all stuff we can discuss whenever we get our board. Let's not derail the thread in the meantime...
Let's get in some more votes everybody!
What percentage of internet users do you think know how to set up a VM or have considered trying linux? My guess is 90% aren't aware of how to set up a VM and also don't know how to use Linux.
I agree that people the majority who care for their privacy would maybe use some software like VPNs, no where near as many would go to the extent of switching their operating systems (again, as they perceive that what they are doing is enough for privacy, despite this perception being wrong).
Those who care about privacy, no matter what level of knowledge they have, would not protest. There are no where near enough people or communities that gather enough people to start a protest and even if so, most know that protesting will not do much, that big tech can not really be stopped at this point and due to the fact that the vast majority of users will continue to fuel data-hungry companies and software due to their lack of comprehension of the subject.
I will agree to stop there unless prompted to respond further.
On a related note, I would love to the person who voted "no" to at least post some reasoning as to why not. Otherwise, the poll and general topic sentiment on both threads are showing a clear positive view on the request. Awesome to see!
January 17, 2023, 09:46:11 AM
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Consumers aren't sheep; they can not only switch OS, but also e.g. use locked-down Windows VMs or dedicated machines for certain software that doesn't run on Linux, as well as spreading awareness of Microsoft's practices and pressuring software vendors to release Linux binaries and pressuring companies to switch to FOSS software that compiles for any machine.I agree with BlackHatCoiner that if lots of people cared for better privacy in their OS, more would switch, protest or complain, and thus show MS that they need to change their strategy.
Anyhow; this is all stuff we can discuss whenever we get our board. Let's not derail the thread in the meantime...
Let's get in some more votes everybody!
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