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Dnotes,

With BTC dropping fast, what kind of uplifting advice can you give the new people (doing this for the first time) wanting to hurry and get out? I know you are putting together training for the stay at home parents (Cryptomoms) who want to invest in crypto and all i'm hearing is I will never do that because of what we are seeing today. It could rebound and we all know this, but is something like this part of your training in the new Dnotes 2.0?

How about this: You haven't lost anything until you sell. Really. What goes down comes back up in this market, only a matter of time. This dip has happened every January since at least 2014. Lots of forces making it seem worse this year, it's the "FFF" factor; "Futures, FUD  & Fools" Hang in there...   Grin


Great advice, RJF. You have been around in our industry for a long time and have literally seen it all.

That said, I have these to add:

A major price correction after a huge run up is not a surprise. I am, however, very concern about the cumulative effect of many self-inflicted wounds caused by bad actors, as well as the reckless disregard of sound investment practices, and the recognition of existing legal and regulatory frameworks. The ICO gone wild craze will cost the industry dearly, as reflected in the increasing number of law enforcement actions. There is also the fear that Tether (USDT) may not have lived up to its claim of a 1:1 reserve.

There is no good advice for those who are already 100% invested. This industry has been behaving very differently, as I  mentioned in a recent article – with a casino gambling mentality:  https://dcebrief.com/bursting-bubbles-with-falling-knives-have-we-created-a-global-casino/

If I must guess, I would bet that we have yet to see the bottom. But who knows for sure.

For those who are just getting started, it is important to do your home. Traditional VCs place high value on the team and their track records that are proven and verifiable. Those are good guiding principles.

DNotes will be celebrating its 4th anniversary on February 18th. We have been totally committed to our vision of building a trusted digital currency accessible to everyone worldwide. It has been a very consistent message of inclusiveness for the benefits of everyone as we strive to gain mass acceptance of DNotes in global commerce.

It is our belief that to be the innovator and technology leader we must keep the needs of our stakeholders, consumers, and society in mind. We must be purposeful in our missions utilizing our expanding ecosystems to educate the general population, create innovative products and services, and respect existing laws that are applicable to our industry.

With that in mind, the current industry turmoil could benefit DNotes over the long-term. 


DNotes have followed the correct approach in focusing on the desires and needs of its users. We are developing a lot of interesting and useful features that do not require advanced technical knowledge of the underlying mechanisms by which they work -- simplicity is a crucial component to successful and secure integration of cryptocurrency into the financial world.

The mini-IPO is an exciting development for us. I have been in Australia this last week, and have filmed shots among a few locations for our introductory video for the mini-IPO. I am also expecting to receive the final version of our introductory video to DNotes Global (animated video that I previously posted a brief extract from), by the end of this week. I'm looking very forward to sharing these with the community, and the production of many more.

The volatility in the market lately will be tough to weather, but we must keep in mind that many of us have seen this before, and last year was an extremely successful one and market growth is not necessarily a linear progression upwards. I've seen far too many people posting on social media groups that I'm a part of selling their crypto positions into fiat because their portfolio has halved -- this is the absolute worst way that people can take part in crypto. Firstly, this approach makes people sell low, and buy high -- selling the moment there appears to be market panic after significant drops in the price, and secondly, short-term trading isn't conducive to long-term realisations of success in any project, as they are likely to only hold positions in any cryptocurrency for a very short period of time. This is an attitude that speaks to the fact that the trader does not think that cryptocurrency is not the future of money, but a tool to buy in and out of in order to collect higher positions of fiat money. By focusing on fundamentals: like team, vision, and history, there is much more room for an investor to see cryptocurrency come to light as the future of money that can be used in everyday living situations, and they are much more likely to catch the benefits from its rise.


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Daniel, the article you have written is excellent, and makes some very good points. I'm looking very forward to reading your upcoming articles.

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Dnotes,

With BTC dropping fast, what kind of uplifting advice can you give the new people (doing this for the first time) wanting to hurry and get out? I know you are putting together training for the stay at home parents (Cryptomoms) who want to invest in crypto and all i'm hearing is I will never do that because of what we are seeing today. It could rebound and we all know this, but is something like this part of your training in the new Dnotes 2.0?

How about this: You haven't lost anything until you sell. Really. What goes down comes back up in this market, only a matter of time. This dip has happened every January since at least 2014. Lots of forces making it seem worse this year, it's the "FFF" factor; "Futures, FUD  & Fools" Hang in there...   Grin


Great advice, RJF. You have been around in our industry for a long time and have literally seen it all.

That said, I have these to add:

A major price correction after a huge run up is not a surprise. I am, however, very concern about the cumulative effect of many self-inflicted wounds caused by bad actors, as well as the reckless disregard of sound investment practices, and the recognition of existing legal and regulatory frameworks. The ICO gone wild craze will cost the industry dearly, as reflected in the increasing number of law enforcement actions. There is also the fear that Tether (USDT) may not have lived up to its claim of a 1:1 reserve.

There is no good advice for those who are already 100% invested. This industry has been behaving very differently, as I  mentioned in a recent article – with a casino gambling mentality:  https://dcebrief.com/bursting-bubbles-with-falling-knives-have-we-created-a-global-casino/

If I must guess, I would bet that we have yet to see the bottom. But who knows for sure.

For those who are just getting started, it is important to do your home. Traditional VCs place high value on the team and their track records that are proven and verifiable. Those are good guiding principles.

DNotes will be celebrating its 4th anniversary on February 18th. We have been totally committed to our vision of building a trusted digital currency accessible to everyone worldwide. It has been a very consistent message of inclusiveness for the benefits of everyone as we strive to gain mass acceptance of DNotes in global commerce.

It is our belief that to be the innovator and technology leader we must keep the needs of our stakeholders, consumers, and society in mind. We must be purposeful in our missions utilizing our expanding ecosystems to educate the general population, create innovative products and services, and respect existing laws that are applicable to our industry.

With that in mind, the current industry turmoil could benefit DNotes over the long-term. 
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Dnotes,

With BTC dropping fast, what kind of uplifting advice can you give the new people (doing this for the first time) wanting to hurry and get out? I know you are putting together training for the stay at home parents (Cryptomoms) who want to invest in crypto and all i'm hearing is I will never do that because of what we are seeing today. It could rebound and we all know this, but is something like this part of your training in the new Dnotes 2.0?

How about this: You haven't lost anything until you sell. Really. What goes down comes back up in this market, only a matter of time. This dip has happened every January since at least 2014. Lots of forces making it seem worse this year, it's the "FFF" factor; "Futures, FUD  & Fools" Hang in there...   Grin
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Dnotes,

With BTC dropping fast, what kind of uplifting advice can you give the new people (doing this for the first time) wanting to hurry and get out? I know you are putting together training for the stay at home parents (Cryptomoms) who want to invest in crypto and all i'm hearing is I will never do that because of what we are seeing today. It could rebound and we all know this, but is something like this part of your training in the new Dnotes 2.0?


Hi The Chezzz, that is a great question. We are involved because we believe fundamentally that cryptocurrency is an amazing and world changing revolution that will have a deep impact on peoples lives. Without that philosophical buy-in, cryptocurrency is not the right investment vehicle for you (with some exceptions), you would simply be chasing the ups and down and much more prone to making big mistakes, at least from my view point. Following that same line of thinking, you would need that same buy-in for the way DNotes is approaching cryptocurrency.
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Dnotes,

With BTC dropping fast, what kind of uplifting advice can you give the new people (doing this for the first time) wanting to hurry and get out? I know you are putting together training for the stay at home parents (Cryptomoms) who want to invest in crypto and all i'm hearing is I will never do that because of what we are seeing today. It could rebound and we all know this, but is something like this part of your training in the new Dnotes 2.0?
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Question on DNotes vault update: Do you consider two factor authentication via SMS? I guess that there are a lot of people who can not (are not able to) use QR codes.

Hi flashmoniltd, yes it is a possibility for the next DNotesVault update for users that may not be able to use the app. Users may be able to use it still on desktop as well: https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-authenticator-for-desktop/
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Question on DNotes vault update: Do you consider two factor authentication via SMS? I guess that there are a lot of people who can not (are not able to) use QR codes.
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Thank you, Daniel, for another thought provoking article. We have never experienced any technology revolution that is such far-reaching and disruptive as Bitcoin and the underpinning blockchain technologies. Admittedly, it is also significantly more complex for most people to understand without devoting a great deal of time to research and think through it.

Any country that can appreciate the immense potential and proceed to create the most favorable regulatory environment to help the industry to flourish will quickly enjoy great economic growth. This is a generational opportunity. For that reason, I hope that we “don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.”


Fantastic! Another thought provoking article Daniel. I can imagine the benefits to the countries that adopt fair rules and regulations that have a minimal impact on the growth of the industry, in terms of being a technological leader attracting skill and industry, jobs and wealth creation, and the impact on the economy.
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DNotes Global Inc Unveils New Video Series for Business Owners and Entrepreneurs




   


 
 


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Thank you, Daniel, for another thought provoking article. We have never experienced any technology revolution that is such far-reaching and disruptive as Bitcoin and the underpinning blockchain technologies. Admittedly, it is also significantly more complex for most people to understand without devoting a great deal of time to research and think through it.

Any country that can appreciate the immense potential and proceed to create the most favorable regulatory environment to help the industry to flourish will quickly enjoy great economic growth. This is a generational opportunity. For that reason, I hope that we “don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.”
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/is-bitcoins-reign-as-king-of-cryptocurrency-in-danger

This article is showing us all that the door is opening for a new way to do business. Dnotes is coming. Don't let this opportunity pass you by.

Thank you for sharing the link. There are certainly opportunities for DNotes to excel where Bitcoin has been failing. We have been positioning DNotes, since day one, to identify all the potential pitfalls that our industry must overcome before mass acceptance of digital currency in global commerce can become a reality.

It takes a lot of patience and demanding work to do the right thing at the right time. We are getting a lot closer to be a significant player in our industry. Once we started gaining sustained momentum - our unique vision, business model, and strategic executions will become more obvious and easier to understand.

DNotes is firmly committed to building a trusted brand, an inclusiveness for everyone, purposeful missions in each of our expanding ecosystem, a unified culture to accomplish common goals, and a best in class mindset in leadership, technology, and everything that we pledged to support.

However, we are mindful that Bitcoin is well entrenched with great name recognition. Bitcoin will be around for a long time. DNotes’ mid-term goal is to supplement Bitcoin short-falls, as well as that of fiat currencies. That itself is a gigantic undertaking. It will take us years to get there.
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/is-bitcoins-reign-as-king-of-cryptocurrency-in-danger

This article is showing us all that the door is opening for a new way to do business. Dnotes is coming. Don't let this opportunity pass you by.
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Dnotes Team,

I have been researching Crypto currencies for over a month now, and would like to thank you for always being in the forum and updating us on your project. With all of the scams that i have discovered I was beginning to lose hope for this type of currency and was going to stop this venture and move on with my life, but you have given me hope that there is a true team out there with a vision and I am all in. I have my Vault and have my share of Dnotes and ready for the launch in March. Good luck with all that you are doing and I hope one day we are seeing Dnotes signs up at Walmart, Malls, Amazon Websites, etc. That a credit card is developed so we can spend our Dnotes at those stores. That our vaults are connected to our bank accounts so we can use Dnotes to pay off our loans and such. I don't believe that there is enough BTC out there to accomplish that mission world wide. They can start it, but will not be what carries this Cryto Currency life forward. I believe it to be Dnotes. I like the vision you have for this company. Can't wait!!!! Thank you and keep up the great work!!!! We all appreciate your updates.

Welcome to DNotes, The Chezzz. That must have been quite an experience. It reminded me of my first few weeks of research towards the end of 2013. At one point I was about to take a pass. Good thing I approached it a little differently. "If it is important enough and you don't like it - change it." That should explain why DNotes is built so differently. We are beginning to gain some serious respect. Thanks for your support and confidence in us.

Yes, certainly. One of our core missions is to provide the facilities and platform for DNotes stakeholders to conveniently use DNotes as a form of payment at nearly zero cost. We also want to help build an environment where a large percentage of the payments will be between two parties without the participation of a third party. DNotes ecosystem will always be there as the alternative when needed, and charges a reasonable fees.

Welcome The Chezzz, appreciate that you would share your experience with us. I believe we are absolutely on the right path and it takes some research and stepping back a little from the industry to see the bigger picture and the role DNotes can play in the future.
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Thank you Dan, for helping us to clarify our staking reward and CRISP reward. Together with the services DNotesVault is providing, this will indeed be one of the most valuable features available in our industry. We believe that it will be very beneficial to long-term investors. Ultimately, it will gain the support and participation of fund managers. We always believe in doing the right thing, even though it is often harder and takes longer to get there.

Agreed, thank you Denver Dan and Chase! Those are great questions in helping to clarify, not only for you, but also everyone else reading along.
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A few questions to clarify a bit more.  "2% is the target for the whole network. A target of 2% of total coins will be released as staking reward every year."  

This 2% is based on coins in existence?  So, approximately 131,300,000 (today) x .02 = 2,626,000 per year/total reward?  Which is also the total inflation (plus CRISP rewards)?

From what I understand, this is a little less than what miners are getting right now?  (Not necessarily a bad thing)

Do you feel this percentage is enough incentive for people to stake and secure the network?

I've read other coins are up to 10%.  Different inflation model, but just curious your thoughts.

From what I read earlier, there will be no master nodes?  

With the deferred/cold staking, could it be possible to do this from a mobile device?

Can we use our CRISP to stake with?

What are the terms for CRISP or penalties for withdraw from CRISP?

I think I know the answers to most of these, but I thought a little clarification would be good.





"This 2% is based on coins in existence?  So, approximately 131,300,000 (today) x .02 = 2,626,000 per year/total reward?  Which is also the total inflation (plus CRISP rewards)?"
Roughly speaking, yes. For inflation, yes, and would need to include CRISP.


"From what I understand, this is a little less than what miners are getting right now?  (Not necessarily a bad thing)"
Correct, miners receive about 1,000,000 a month now. With 130,000,000 in distribution, the maximum reward, with everyone participating in every program to the fullest, it would be a bit less at around 900,000 initially.


"Do you feel this percentage is enough incentive for people to stake and secure the network?" & "I've read other coins are up to 10%.  Different inflation model, but just curious your thoughts."
Yes! Especially when considering the less people that participate in staking, the higher the yield for the user.


"From what I read earlier, there will be no master nodes? "
Correct, initially, but that doesn't mean we won't ever have a master node or master node like concept to perform other functions.


"With the deferred/cold staking, could it be possible to do this from a mobile device?"
Not sure I understand the question correctly, but it's all possible, just may not be practical.


"Can we use our CRISP to stake with? "
The same coins will be available for staking as well as CRISP simultaneously. There may be some guidelines to follow to do this properly, and consequently a compounded long term scaling issue to address, but the short answer is yes. We are working to make it as seamless and the least technologically burdensome process possible given the requirements.


"What are the terms for CRISP or penalties for withdraw from CRISP?"
No penalties to speak of. If the coins are in the wallet, and have remained in the wallet for the required amount of time, you will receive the appropriate reward. 30 day and 365 day periods.



Thank you for the answers and clarity.  How exciting.  All those above mentioned are great benefits for DNotes currency holders.  Just another part of the overall picture that will have DNotes noticed coming soon.

What I'm asking about the mobile staking is; From what I understand, we'll be able to stake from a wallet on our PC that holds no coins (QT or different version).  It'll be connected to the vault.  In order to stake though, we'll need to run this wallet on our PC full time (if we wanted the full rewards).  This sometimes isn't always practical.  Could this type of wallet be used on a mobile platform that is pretty much online the whole time?



Yes, mobile devices would certainly be capable of storing the blockchain and running a staking full node. There are certain considerations we will have to look into to create a high efficiency and light weight version for mobile devices.


Thank you Dan, for helping us to clarify our staking reward and CRISP reward. Together with the services DNotesVault is providing, this will indeed be one of the most valuable features available in our industry. We believe that it will be very beneficial to long-term investors. Ultimately, it will gain the support and participation of fund managers. We always believe in doing the right thing, even though it is often harder and takes longer to get there.
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Dnotes Team,

I have been researching Crypto currencies for over a month now, and would like to thank you for always being in the forum and updating us on your project. With all of the scams that i have discovered I was beginning to lose hope for this type of currency and was going to stop this venture and move on with my life, but you have given me hope that there is a true team out there with a vision and I am all in. I have my Vault and have my share of Dnotes and ready for the launch in March. Good luck with all that you are doing and I hope one day we are seeing Dnotes signs up at Walmart, Malls, Amazon Websites, etc. That a credit card is developed so we can spend our Dnotes at those stores. That our vaults are connected to our bank accounts so we can use Dnotes to pay off our loans and such. I don't believe that there is enough BTC out there to accomplish that mission world wide. They can start it, but will not be what carries this Cryto Currency life forward. I believe it to be Dnotes. I like the vision you have for this company. Can't wait!!!! Thank you and keep up the great work!!!! We all appreciate your updates.

Welcome to DNotes, The Chezzz. That must have been quite an experience. It reminded me of my first few weeks of research towards the end of 2013. At one point I was about to take a pass. Good thing I approached it a little differently. "If it is important enough and you don't like it - change it." That should explain why DNotes is built so differently. We are beginning to gain some serious respect. Thanks for your support and confidence in us.

Yes, certainly. One of our core missions is to provide the facilities and platform for DNotes stakeholders to conveniently use DNotes as a form of payment at nearly zero cost. We also want to help build an environment where a large percentage of the payments will be between two parties without the participation of a third party. DNotes ecosystem will always be there as the alternative when needed, and charges a reasonable fees.
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One of the many problems I see with regulators and anyone they listen to, is a huge lack of subject knowledge resulting in an inability to distinguish between cryptocurrency and ICOs (among other things). They make a broad based statement on cryptocurrency, when the 'wrongdoing' they are talking about is ICO specific. The report (linked in the article) covers warnings made by the SEC and the CFTC. The warnings start out quite ICO specific and also target the "Blockchains-R-Us" companies that have done nothing but attach blockchain to their name (or some similar action), but then it appears they think cryptocurrency functions the same way.


Bad Advice and Blockchain-R-US: Stern Warnings from the SEC and CFTC Chairmen on Unregistered ICOs, Cashing In on “Crypto-Mania” - https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/bad-advice-and-blockchain-r-us-stern-30337/

The article’s comments on the recent surge in Bitcoin’s price indicate a greater confidence from both regulators that
the public is treating Bitcoin as an investment and that stronger investor protections should be seriously considered.
The authors noted that:

• The largest cryptocurrency exchanges are offshore, unregulated by SEC/CFTC
• Cryptocurrencies lack “governance standards, accountability, and oversight”
• The pretense of Bitcoin as a payment vehicle has dissolved, and
• Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are now viewed as “investor assets”

Clayton and Giancarlo concluded that investor expectations are clear – the public purchases Bitcoin and other
cryptocurrencies seeking a profit. This is important because an expectation of profit is one key factor of the Howey
test, used by the SEC to identify securities under its jurisdiction.10 This Op-Ed makes clear that both these
Chairmen (and their respective Commissions) believe they have the legal authority and mandate to pursue more
protections for consumers in the cryptocurrency market. As such, market participants should expect continued
enforcement activity and scrutiny from both the SEC and CFTC.



The problem with trying to link the Howey test to cryptocurrency is, unless the development team sold the coins directly to the investor, half of the Howey Test criteria is missing.

1.It is an investment of money

2.There is an expectation of profits from the investment

3. The investment of money is in a common enterprise  

"Most federal courts define a common enterprise as one that is horizontal, meaning that investors pool their money or assets together to invest in a project."
- This fits the ICO funding model only.

4. Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party
- This is one that really distinguishes cyptocurrency from ICO's.

"The final factor of the Howey Test concerns whether any profit that comes from the investment is largely or wholly outside of the investor's control. If so, then the investment might be a security. If, however, the investor's own actions largely dictate whether an investment will be profitable, then that investment is probably not a security."
http://consumer.findlaw.com/securities-law/what-is-the-howey-test.html

With an ICO, large sums of money are handed over to a business/project and the token holder has no say or role to play in building the business.

Cryptocurrency couldn't be further from this. Honest cryptocurrencies are built by the communities that believe they will be making a difference in the world. There are so many community members and people behind the scenes that have contributed to projects like DNotes, the investors absolutely have a role in its success.

As far as the expectation of profit goes... Of course we would like to profit, because we worked for it.  Wink


Chase, thank you very much for a very comprehensive post. It is frustrating that inaccurate and misleading information concerning ICOs and the SEC rules governing the sale of securities continue to propagate the news media.

I am also personally experiencing an elevated level of frustration in finding professionals in the legal, accounting, auditing, and business fields that understand their field of specialty plus a general understanding of our industry.  I have yet to come up with a perfect choice.  

I have been working on our funding programs with a Reg. D 506 (c) followed by a Reg. A+ Mini-IPO Title IV Tier 2 to raise a maximum of $50 million from accredited and non-accredited investors worldwide. Although it has been turning out to be more challenging in picking the right team, than originally anticipated, there is no doubt in my mind that we have selected the right approach – in fact the best option available for capital formation.

Back to the general subject of ICO, I believe that the SEC enforcement efforts will continue to intensify. The primary issues are the sale of unregistered or exempt securities under the SEC rules. I do not envision any problems concerning the trading of digital currency through an exchange, irrespective of whether the exchange has a local license. Most countries and states do not have an existing law upon which a license can be issued. However, in a State, such as New York, that has a licensing requirement (BitLicense) it is illegal for an exchange to operate or do business with its residents without a license. Therefore, acquiring DNotes, using an exchange like Cryptopia is not an issue of concern.
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