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Quote from: serjent05 on August 12, 2023, 05:38:44 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on August 12, 2023, 07:09:57 AM

Personally, I won around x50 - x100 plenty of times through small sports accumulator bets and was never asked to submit KYC so far though the amounts weren't huge or anything.

Almost every crypto gambling site will request KYC if the amount is huge these days though only a couple of them give bullshit excuses even after providing KYC.

Smaller withdrawals could bypass KYC, but it would take a lot longer to fully access your winnings.

I won more than 2000x of the base bet on Stake, and I am able to withdraw the winnings without KYC. I also have the same experience with other crypto casino like Bitcasino, and Rollbit, and I am able to withdraw the winnings without KYC.

I also think that there are thresholds where a player can withdraw their winnings without undergoing KYC and exceeding that threshold will automatically trigger the need to undergo KYC.

That is very important that you share it, because there are many who do not make big bets because they know they have to do the kyc and there are many who are sensitive to this Issue, they prefer not to do it and avoid doing it , but the casinos you say are the ones I have seen They are more famous here in the forum, they have an enviable reputation, and they are responsible, I think it is for this reason that they do not ask for the kyc, because for a person to earn less than $10k that is not much For the income that they must obtain all the time, I would like to be profitable like this , but it is Impossible with Respect to my expenses, but good information , there are friends that I have where I live who do not play in casinos so they are online for that reason , they prefer to go to the normal casinos.

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Quote from: maydna on August 13, 2023, 10:19:16 AM

Quote from: Dunamisx on August 12, 2023, 07:51:26 AM

In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.

But winning and losing will still determine the results of the predictions that we place. And if gamblers place big bets, they will also get big wins if their predictions are correct. But to get an accurate or nearly accurate prediction, we must have a good analysis to find out which team we have chosen.

But it's very difficult to get a big win with a small bet, moreover get a big multiplier like @OP said. And only lucky people can get it.

yes, big win with small bet is almost impossible. I don't know if it's true that anyone got a big win after a few small bets were made. but there's no way the casino would give such good luck.
still those who get big wins are those who have been playing at the casino long enough. and regularly they deposit large sums of money.
anyone hopes that big wins will be obtained in their gambling. but luck doesn't come with little effort either.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on August 12, 2023, 07:51:26 AM

In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.

But winning and losing will still determine the results of the predictions that we place. And if gamblers place big bets, they will also get big wins if their predictions are correct. But to get an accurate or nearly accurate prediction, we must have a good analysis to find out which team we have chosen.

But it's very difficult to get a big win with a small bet, moreover get a big multiplier like @OP said. And only lucky people can get it.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 12, 2023, 10:33:08 AM

Quote from: Dunamisx on August 12, 2023, 07:51:26 AM

In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.

You are right, and as long as there is no form of cheating in the casino, a gambler is not supposed to even have an issue with withdrawing their winnings because they did not cheat the system; they only made an accurate prediction that won them life-changing money. So, even the casinos should not have issues with releasing the amount won to the gambler. What I just understood is that the reason some of those casinos require KYC from the winner is that they only want to know the true identity of the person who has made such a big win from them. Any time gamblers win a huge amount from their bets, it becomes a loss for the casinos, so if an individual's winning kicks them off their feet, they really want to know who the person is. Some times too, they could also use the winner to promote their business by advertising with the person's image, showing the public that one can win X amount with them.

Casinos SHOULD honor every win without hesitation. Players have every right to their winnings without jumping through a series of bureaucratic hoops. If there's no cheating from the player's end, then there shouldn't be any stalling or evasive maneuvers from the casino's end either.

KYC? Fine, I get the need for that to some extent. Modern economies rely on anti-money laundering protocols, and casinos being businesses, they need to be compliant. However, this should be a standardized process across all winnings, not just the large amounts. And as for using winners for promotional purposes? Yes, it can be a PR win for the casino, but there needs to be explicit consent from the winner. No one should be paraded around like some trophy without their agreement. It's high time casinos respect the damn players

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 12, 2023, 05:38:44 PM

I won more than 2000x of the base bet on Stake, and I am able to withdraw the winnings without KYC. I also have the same experience with other crypto casino like Bitcasino, and Rollbit, and I am able to withdraw the winnings without KYC.

You are technically submitting your KYC at Stake while depositing or withdrawing your funds which is why it shouldn't be grouped with sites like Bitcasino etc where they don't mandatorily enforce KYC.

Quote from: serjent05 on August 12, 2023, 05:38:44 PM

I also think that there are thresholds where a player can withdraw their winnings without undergoing KYC and exceeding that threshold will automatically trigger the need to undergo KYC.

Yeah. The thresholds differ from site to site based on what I observed.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 12, 2023, 07:09:57 AM

Personally, I won around x50 - x100 plenty of times through small sports accumulator bets and was never asked to submit KYC so far though the amounts weren't huge or anything.

Almost every crypto gambling site will request KYC if the amount is huge these days though only a couple of them give bullshit excuses even after providing KYC.

Smaller withdrawals could bypass KYC, but it would take a lot longer to fully access your winnings.

I won more than 2000x of the base bet on Stake, and I am able to withdraw the winnings without KYC. I also have the same experience with other crypto casino like Bitcasino, and Rollbit, and I am able to withdraw the winnings without KYC.

I also think that there are thresholds where a player can withdraw their winnings without undergoing KYC and exceeding that threshold will automatically trigger the need to undergo KYC.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on August 12, 2023, 07:51:26 AM

In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.

You are right, and as long as there is no form of cheating in the casino, a gambler is not supposed to even have an issue with withdrawing their winnings because they did not cheat the system; they only made an accurate prediction that won them life-changing money. So, even the casinos should not have issues with releasing the amount won to the gambler. What I just understood is that the reason some of those casinos require KYC from the winner is that they only want to know the true identity of the person who has made such a big win from them. Any time gamblers win a huge amount from their bets, it becomes a loss for the casinos, so if an individual's winning kicks them off their feet, they really want to know who the person is. Some times too, they could also use the winner to promote their business by advertising with the person's image, showing the public that one can win X amount with them.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 12, 2023, 07:39:54 AM

But of a truth, anyone who won such an amount won't have any problem going through the KYC process since that is what is required to get his payment out of the casino.

True.

It's like that the money is waiting for you to be withdrawn and you'll surely do anything you can so that you can take it even if it's going to take you an application for KYC.

Just to expect those things will happen for your own sake when the casino asked you that and you've won tremendous amount. No gambler won't be asked if he has won a lot.

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In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.

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When you said small amount and at the same time big winning it then means this could only happen with a jackpot such as lottery and if that be it then I have to say it's possible and for some reasons, I have seen some individual who used a small amount of money to win life-changing rewards, but the pars that seem confusing is whether or not there we're able to withdraw without going through the KYC processes.

But of a truth, anyone who won such an amount won't have any problem going through the KYC process since that is what is required to get his payment out of the casino.

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Quote from: Rabata on August 12, 2023, 06:42:54 AM

Quote from: cafter on July 20, 2023, 08:30:11 AM

anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the casino?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

If any one doesn't have KYC approval then it is not unusual to face such situation. But in some cases KYC becomes very important as one wins there like a big jackpot. However, in some good casino if big amount is won, then the money can be refunded properly by fulfilling the KYC conditions, but if the gambling site is not good, then the casino platform does not take any kind of complaint rather they freeze the winning amount and refuse to pay the winnings. A gambler must read their terms and conditions thoroughly before selecting any gambling platform.

A gambler can win a big jackpot without KYC verification but he cannot withdraw it. And if someone comes to do it at that time, he may face a lot of problems because then he will have a large amount of holding in his account, so the authorities of that platform can make Kyc very hard for him. So every gambler should complete KYC if he wants to play regular gambling there and must use a popular site for gambling. Then the chances of getting into trouble will be less

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Personally, I won around x50 - x100 plenty of times through small sports accumulator bets and was never asked to submit KYC so far though the amounts weren't huge or anything.

Almost every crypto gambling site will request KYC if the amount is huge these days though only a couple of them give bullshit excuses even after providing KYC.

Smaller withdrawals could bypass KYC, but it would take a lot longer to fully access your winnings.

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Quote from: SamReomo on August 10, 2023, 07:21:17 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 10, 2023, 07:01:53 AM

I think actions like that, triggers KYC verification..... so the best way to prevent that, is to stay on the platform and to withdraw smaller amounts. Just keep playing small amounts constantly and withdraw small amounts occasionally.

If there is one thing that casinos hate most, it is players withdrawing large amounts of money .... no matter if it is after a huge win. They will spin that "KYC" nonsense... but it is just delay tactics to get you to stay longer and to gamble it back into their bankroll. Roll Eyes

I agree with you, as long as a user doesn't tries to withdraw any large amount of money he/she will never have to do any type of KYC verifications. The casinos only want KYC verification from the users who are known to withdraw thousands of dollars, and if someone limits their daily withdrawals to smaller amount then they don't need to go through KYC verification at all.

I also believe that the gamblers should try their best to avoid any bonuses of free bets as they require very high amount in wager which is unlikely to happen for most of the gamblers. A better way to start gambling with those casinos is to avoid such bonuses and free bets at any cost possible.

Reducing withdrawals to avoid KYC? That sounds ridiculous, to put it mildly. And I mean, really?

Regarding bonuses and free bets, it's true that occasionally they could appear to be enticing diversion. But discarding them completely? Saying "I don't want any advantages or opportunities, thanks!" is analogous to that. You're right that there are some demanding requirements, but that's part of the fun, I guess. Furthermore, isn't it a little bit envied when someone succeeds in beating the odds and wins?

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Quote from: cafter on July 20, 2023, 08:30:11 AM

anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the casino?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

If any one doesn't have KYC approval then it is not unusual to face such situation. But in some cases KYC becomes very important as one wins there like a big jackpot. However, in some good casino if big amount is won, then the money can be refunded properly by fulfilling the KYC conditions, but if the gambling site is not good, then the casino platform does not take any kind of complaint rather they freeze the winning amount and refuse to pay the winnings. A gambler must read their terms and conditions thoroughly before selecting any gambling platform.

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Quote from: Maslate on August 10, 2023, 07:50:12 AM

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 10, 2023, 07:01:53 AM

I think actions like that, triggers KYC verification..... so the best way to prevent that, is to stay on the platform and to withdraw smaller amounts. Just keep playing small amounts constantly and withdraw small amounts occasionally.

If there is one thing that casinos hate most, it is players withdrawing large amounts of money .... no matter if it is after a huge win. They will spin that "KYC" nonsense... but it is just delay tactics to get you to stay longer and to gamble it back into their bankroll. Roll Eyes

I agree with you, as long as a user doesn't tries to withdraw any large amount of money he/she will never have to do any type of KYC verifications. The casinos only want KYC verification from the users who are known to withdraw thousands of dollars, and if someone limits their daily withdrawals to smaller amount then they don't need to go through KYC verification at all.

I have reservations about that being safe. If you happen to win a substantial amount of money, it will undoubtedly be noticeable in your account balance. Even if you opt to make small withdrawals on a regular basis, the system will likely perceive your actions as consistently withdrawing without placing any bets. Therefore, it's reasonable to assert that if your goal is to achieve a significant win at a casino, you must be prepared to fulfill the KYC requirements

I know that winning a huge sum of money will be noticeable in your account balance, but if you try to limit your daily withdrawals to a limited amount then there are few to no chances of you needing KYC verification. The casino's won't be targeting such users for KYC because they know that if such users complete their KYC details then they will be able to withdraw higher amounts without any issues. I don't think that any casino would take any actions against the accounts that are winning fairly and are withdrawing limited amount of cash per day. I agree that if those accounts want to withdraw all the money then they should really fulfill their KYC details, but if they are happy to withdraw limited amounts from their wining per day, and the sites doesn't require KYC for such amounts then I don't think that completion of KYC is necessary at all.

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Quote from: piebeyb on August 12, 2023, 05:57:55 AM

At least know when to play gambling and know when to stop gambling, because that way we can control ourselves from the greedy nature that has been inherent in the human heart since birth, always limiting spending budgets and also defeats or wins, so that when we reach the winning limit it's best stop gambling. but people always ignore that and continue playing as usual.

You can never consistently win in gambling without a solid strategy. While it's okay to be greedy, your strategy should be grounded in careful planning, not emotions. Rational thinking should guide your decisions. If you allow emotions to take over, it can easily disrupt your game plan. Even if you start with skill, without self-control, your consistency will erode over time, resulting in losses. Remember, you're betting against machines or experts who don't rely on emotions when gambling.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on August 11, 2023, 11:02:20 AM

Taking more risks when you are already in profit is nothing but foolishness because that will only make you lose what you have already won, and you might even lose a part of your initial bankroll which isn't what a bankroll would want to experience, so it's always better to simply just stop when the time is right.

It's hard to beat the dealer if we still have greed, sometimes that's what we have to get rid of because keeping greed won't make us feel like we won in the end, we always keep gambling until we reach the desired point, but unfortunately the results are always beaten by bookies until they run out, so that's why we always hear whatever the community has to say about gambling wisely and responsibly.

At least know when to play gambling and know when to stop gambling, because that way we can control ourselves from the greedy nature that has been inherent in the human heart since birth, always limiting spending budgets and also defeats or wins, so that when we reach the winning limit it's best stop gambling. but people always ignore that and continue playing as usual.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 10, 2023, 07:01:53 AM

I think actions like that, triggers KYC verification..... so the best way to prevent that, is to stay on the platform and to withdraw smaller amounts. Just keep playing small amounts constantly and withdraw small amounts occasionally.

If there is one thing that casinos hate most, it is players withdrawing large amounts of money .... no matter if it is after a huge win. They will spin that "KYC" nonsense... but it is just delay tactics to get you to stay longer and to gamble it back into their bankroll. Roll Eyes

But if you do this continuously, the casino team can suspect your account because you get a big win or jackpot but only make small withdrawals with quite a lot of withdrawals.
Actually KYC verification is not a scary thing and all of that is requested by casinos so they can believe that gamblers have played honestly and no cheating has been done, I am amazed at those gamblers who avoid KYC verification too much because KYC verification is also aimed at common interest not as if the casino makes it difficult for the customers.

For gamblers who are wise and can accept all the casino rules, they will not linger in the casino to return to betting the winnings stored in the bankroll, but immediately provide all the requirements requested by the casino and then withdraw a large number of these winnings.
Think about it if you get a big win then the casino asks KYC for withdrawal would you refuse it and just be willing to spend most of the winning amount to bet back?

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Quote from: Webetcoins on August 11, 2023, 11:02:20 AM

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I also had that doubt, I don't know if there is someone with that ability to make that money, I have not been able to take more than 10 dollars to 18-21 dollars , but more than that has not given me the opportunity, and I think that is very Difficult, to earn more you have to deposit more and be very careful, because that can greatly affect the balance when a person tries to do things that are not within reason , such as taking more risks and having a good chance of winning, I I think that in casinos it is not that it works 100% , there will always be things to do to win a lot of money , it takes a lot of luck and Unique patience.

Getting $8 on top of a $10 balance is an 80% win rate and that is great considering you are gambling, but that would only be useful if you know the right time to stop and don't gamble it back. A disciplined gambler would stop gambling when they see they have already got above 50% of their initial bankroll which is more than enough for a single gambling session, people that have pretty high bankrolls even tend to stop when they got even 10% on top.

Taking more risks when you are already in profit is nothing but foolishness because that will only make you lose what you have already won, and you might even lose a part of your initial bankroll which isn't what a bankroll would want to experience, so it's always better to simply just stop when the time is right.

Yes, that is a very good Initiative, but I would not Wait for it at 50% Because it is Something Dangerous, what I would do would be Better to bet and see if my 10% of bankroll goes away, I can stop and start betting until I have 5%, no I can afford to lose more than that , and so I can go up to 2.5% but I don't invest more Playing because sometimes when we start to play a lot, things have to happen little by little, that's what I've Learned Of the casinos , if a Person starts to play Big , one of two happens, that he loses Everything or multiplies his Money quickly , but the most likely thing is that he Loses it, a Casino will Always have the advantage of the house.

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Quote from: danadc on August 07, 2023, 10:11:56 AM

I also had that doubt, I don't know if there is someone with that ability to make that money, I have not been able to take more than 10 dollars to 18-21 dollars , but more than that has not given me the opportunity, and I think that is very Difficult, to earn more you have to deposit more and be very careful, because that can greatly affect the balance when a person tries to do things that are not within reason , such as taking more risks and having a good chance of winning, I I think that in casinos it is not that it works 100% , there will always be things to do to win a lot of money , it takes a lot of luck and Unique patience.

Getting $8 on top of a $10 balance is an 80% win rate and that is great considering you are gambling, but that would only be useful if you know the right time to stop and don't gamble it back. A disciplined gambler would stop gambling when they see they have already got above 50% of their initial bankroll which is more than enough for a single gambling session, people that have pretty high bankrolls even tend to stop when they got even 10% on top.

Taking more risks when you are already in profit is nothing but foolishness because that will only make you lose what you have already won, and you might even lose a part of your initial bankroll which isn't what a bankroll would want to experience, so it's always better to simply just stop when the time is right.

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