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Quote from: cafter on July 20, 2023, 08:30:11 AM

anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the casino?

Sometimes there are cases where some people have gambled for a small amount and won millions of dollars. It requires a huge amount of luck. not everyone has it. Such incidents are rarely heard of. But KYC is mandatory to withdraw those big winning rewards. Because every casino site has a maximum withdrawal limit without kyc, it is not possible to withdraw large amounts like millions of dollars without KYC. If you have won such big amount from a reputable casino site then you can complete kyc and withdraw easily without any hassle. However, if you win something from a scam site, it may not be possible to withdraw it. They will become worthless

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Quote from: Beparanf on July 20, 2023, 10:30:05 AM

Quote from: so98nn on July 20, 2023, 10:17:14 AM

How much less amount are you talking about?

Peeps are doing 100x or 500x all the time with the tiny amounts like 10 or 20 cents. Most of these high rollers can be found in the slot section of casino. However note that doing 500x of ten cents is not big amount in monetary value but only in multiplication or wagering levels.

If you had seen Roobets or Duelbits games on “highest multiplier” then it was literally common during that period we seen such high rolled. Even it was around 600-700x too.

However, hardly seen someone betting 10-20 dollars and rolling that high.

Totally agree, base bet usually small amount and winning even max multiplier is not enough to trigger the KYC. I think only those wagering huge amount that manage to huge multiplier are subjected to this scenario but many user sare still confused on how KYC works, They thought that it always because of the amount of money involved neglecting the main reason which is the account involved is somehow show some shady activity.

Many newbie reported scam accusation with this same story but most of them are casino cheaters and using the forum to find support against casino. So far, No reputable or high rank user here experienced this kind of incident.

You're right a casino won't just go all out on people who won huge amount of money with little fees, that wasn't the reason why the kyc system was even implemented, the kyc policy was implemented in gambling system to verify the identity of customers as well as tracking their transactions, most platform implement this strategies to ensure that their businesses are not used for criminal activities like fraud and money laundering.
So if you if you're asked to provide a document upon withdrawal it might not really be cause of the huge money that's won, might be that the platforms is suspicious about your account and would require a proof of ownership to grant you access to your funds, however compliant about a stressful kyc process would always come when customers are not able to provide all the valid documents needed for their funds to be released.

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Quote from: cafter on July 20, 2023, 08:30:11 AM

anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the casino?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

The kyc process was introduce into the financial sector, to secure institutions against criminal activities like fraud, money laundering and other corruption cases, most online gambling platform especially those that concerns the use of cryptocurrency have adapted the kyc policy for withdrawals of huge amount of funds also to identify their customers incase where they're involved in any criminal activities on their platform, now most people have been having difficulties when they want to carry out some withdrawal process from their accounts.
the thing is most casino platform would always request for kyc process when they're suspicious of criminal activities from that account or not very convinced about the document maybe ID card or other required documents a customer use for their platform, also most times those kyc process are required when customer win very huge amount of money as well sometimes they try to check if you've had any bridge in their policy by trying to check if a customer is an underage going against their policy, they also come up with some stressful Kyc procedures to frustrate some customers who bridge their policy, from making withdrawals.

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Quote from: ImThour on July 23, 2023, 11:35:03 AM

If I am not wrong, most of the casinos asks you to wager 100% of the amount before withdrawing. And there is also a limit of amount you can withdraw without doing KYC. So make sure you understand these things properly before trying anything. These things are mentioned in the FAQ section of the casino or you can contact their live support, 9/10 times you will get a response back within an hour of your initial message.

Sometimes, it's even higher than 100%, only a few casinos might have only a 1x wagering requirement because it is not that difficult to complete a 100% wagering requirement these days, one can easily do that by losing only a small amount if there are games available where you can bet on two sides in a round, I'm not sure if there are such games available in cryptocurrency gambling platforms or not but there are some in mobile gambling applications.

So they usually ask the players to at least complete 2x or 3x wagering requirement before they can withdraw their balance if they haven't taken any bonus with the deposit, if they have also taken a bonus, the requirement can go to up to 15x or 20x wagering requirement because bonuses generally have higher requirements.

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It seems OP is looking for some motivations through gamblers past results on here, well I have to tell you this, using all money to gamble us the best thing you will ever do for yourself, if you use 10$ for gambling and you sometimes make 59$ it's better than using 1000$ and losing the money, compare the two, I use small amount too and I don't dream about using 10$ to make 4 figures.

This type of winning won't occur often, maybe once in a Blue Moon, like I used to tell some people, casinos are built in such a way that favours you base on what you using to gamble, it means if you use a large amount of money and you keep losing you will one day hit big amount but I am not ready to keep using large amount of money.

it's safer and wiser to use small amount and maybe win not so good amount in the process, than losing high amount and not winning something reasonable.

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Quote from: lienfaye on July 25, 2023, 03:13:43 AM

Anyway, I never experience yet to win huge using a small bet. There are casinos where you can withdraw without KYC if you didn't exceeds the limit, otherwise, it is necessary to process your withdrawal. As I've said, if the casino is reputable, this is not an issue since they're legit and just doing what is needed.

Yes, because so far there have been many misconceptions about KYC on the site, if you play honestly and the system doesn't detect cheating everything will be fine, even I recently withdrew hundreds of dollars without KYC there is no problem, as long as we play honestly, but don't know if withdrawing thousands of dollars there might be rules for us to complete KYC before withdrawing big money.

Btw, if we play small money bets I think everything will be safe, it seems from the cases that we often see when casinos ask for KYC it usually happens that gamblers who win big money also make large deposits so that the system detects to look deeper into whether there are indications of fraud or money laundering. but as long as we never win big money and play with small stakes there's no problem.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 24, 2023, 05:32:50 PM

Aside from sticking with reputable casinos, in order to avoid any future troubles or headaches, we must follow the terms and conditions of any casino platform we are interested to play with. This will greatly reduce the chance of our account being flagged and we can have a smooth experience as a user and be able to withdraw the winnings without any problem. Those who complain about the casino holding their withdrawals had been proven to have some issue because they failed to follow the casino TOS.

Reading the terms and condition is important for us to understand the rule and can prevent ourselves violating it so we can play and withdraw without issues. Choosing a reputable casino is a one thing because you can be at ease since the platform is not shady and unlikely to hold your money (incase you win a decent amount) unless you're an abusive gambler on their site.

Anyway, I never experience yet to win huge using a small bet. There are casinos where you can withdraw without KYC if you didn't exceeds the limit, otherwise, it is necessary to process your withdrawal. As I've said, if the casino is reputable, this is not an issue since they're legit and just doing what is needed.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 24, 2023, 05:32:50 PM

Aside from sticking with reputable casinos, in order to avoid any future troubles or headaches, we must follow the terms and conditions of any casino platform we are interested to play with. This will greatly reduce the chance of our account being flagged and we can have a smooth experience as a user and be able to withdraw the winnings without any problem. Those who complain about the casino holding their withdrawals had been proven to have some issue because they failed to follow the casino TOS.

Most of the time when a gambler begins to point fingers to the casino because there is a delay on their withdrawal they know why this is happening, as reputable casinos take a very serious stance when it comes to the withdrawals of their clients, however they do not want to admit they violated the TOS of the casino and begin to make all kind of excuses about why an exception should be made for them, and when this does not happen then they accuse the casino of trying to scam them, when casinos are just following the terms every single gambler needs to accept in order to gamble at all on their platform.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 24, 2023, 05:32:50 PM

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Quote from: famososMuertos on July 24, 2023, 03:39:49 PM

There are casinos that have very clear TOS and that is where you have to go, it is not about anything else, but there are cases where the KYC is activated with a withdrawal amount of 4 figures, but you withdraw $400 (e.g.) and the process is activated.

Some time ago in a casino, according to them I logged in from the United States, something very rare but then according to them the verification is activated for that and not for the amount, it is generally a country that is blocked in many Casinos, I did not provide any document but I gave one phone number.

Then there was no problem and I was able to withdraw, the thing is that it was a recognized casino and also that it lives here in the forum, but without a doubt that is where later the unreliable casinos begin to "dizzy" with the withdrawal and request more documents, to avoid headaches, only play in recognized casinos and regardless of that they give read the TOS.

If you dont like to experience headaches then it would be better or would really be worth for you to stick with those known and reputable casinos rather than making yourself consider on playing with those new casinos
which they dont really be having the reputation on which you could be able to trust on.Its not really that generally means that they cant be trusted but it would really be just common sense that you should really be that
mindful about the risks involved when dealing up with new platforms because they havent still proven out themselves but as i said earlier that not all the time that new platforms are considered to be shady.You would eventually be able to notice it out if ever you are really that playing into something which is really that not really looks legit at all. Its always been wise to see some feedback first before you would really
be tending to make out deposits but if you do like to test out waters then it would really be your choice because its our money then we do have the full rights on what are the things that we must do.

Aside from sticking with reputable casinos, in order to avoid any future troubles or headaches, we must follow the terms and conditions of any casino platform we are interested to play with. This will greatly reduce the chance of our account being flagged and we can have a smooth experience as a user and be able to withdraw the winnings without any problem. Those who complain about the casino holding their withdrawals had been proven to have some issue because they failed to follow the casino TOS.

Terms and conditions is most likely would really be that ignored and skip out on reading it up because most of the time they are really just that the same when it comes on what are the infos are written there but its true that there are various conditions which might you had missed out on reading it up just like on withdrawal threshold on which if you do hit up some certain digits on the amount then this is the time that they would be asking for some verification which it would really be putting you in shock on the time that you would be requesting one. This is where we do usually be trying out to accuse a certain platform that they are shady because of such act but if you do really look back on their terms and trying out to tell you about those key points then you would be finding yourself that so dumb that you haven't able to read it up.
Not all the time these platforms are really that in mistake or we could really blame on because we do know that there are things which we do able to pass out on reading up specially on TOS which majority of
people would be skipping on reading out.

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Quote from: Mahanton on July 24, 2023, 03:54:17 PM

Quote from: famososMuertos on July 24, 2023, 03:39:49 PM

There are casinos that have very clear TOS and that is where you have to go, it is not about anything else, but there are cases where the KYC is activated with a withdrawal amount of 4 figures, but you withdraw $400 (e.g.) and the process is activated.

Some time ago in a casino, according to them I logged in from the United States, something very rare but then according to them the verification is activated for that and not for the amount, it is generally a country that is blocked in many Casinos, I did not provide any document but I gave one phone number.

Then there was no problem and I was able to withdraw, the thing is that it was a recognized casino and also that it lives here in the forum, but without a doubt that is where later the unreliable casinos begin to "dizzy" with the withdrawal and request more documents, to avoid headaches, only play in recognized casinos and regardless of that they give read the TOS.

If you dont like to experience headaches then it would be better or would really be worth for you to stick with those known and reputable casinos rather than making yourself consider on playing with those new casinos
which they dont really be having the reputation on which you could be able to trust on.Its not really that generally means that they cant be trusted but it would really be just common sense that you should really be that
mindful about the risks involved when dealing up with new platforms because they havent still proven out themselves but as i said earlier that not all the time that new platforms are considered to be shady.You would eventually be able to notice it out if ever you are really that playing into something which is really that not really looks legit at all. Its always been wise to see some feedback first before you would really
be tending to make out deposits but if you do like to test out waters then it would really be your choice because its our money then we do have the full rights on what are the things that we must do.

Aside from sticking with reputable casinos, in order to avoid any future troubles or headaches, we must follow the terms and conditions of any casino platform we are interested to play with. This will greatly reduce the chance of our account being flagged and we can have a smooth experience as a user and be able to withdraw the winnings without any problem. Those who complain about the casino holding their withdrawals had been proven to have some issue because they failed to follow the casino TOS.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on July 24, 2023, 03:39:49 PM

There are casinos that have very clear TOS and that is where you have to go, it is not about anything else, but there are cases where the KYC is activated with a withdrawal amount of 4 figures, but you withdraw $400 (e.g.) and the process is activated.

Some time ago in a casino, according to them I logged in from the United States, something very rare but then according to them the verification is activated for that and not for the amount, it is generally a country that is blocked in many Casinos, I did not provide any document but I gave one phone number.

Then there was no problem and I was able to withdraw, the thing is that it was a recognized casino and also that it lives here in the forum, but without a doubt that is where later the unreliable casinos begin to "dizzy" with the withdrawal and request more documents, to avoid headaches, only play in recognized casinos and regardless of that they give read the TOS.

If you dont like to experience headaches then it would be better or would really be worth for you to stick with those known and reputable casinos rather than making yourself consider on playing with those new casinos
which they dont really be having the reputation on which you could be able to trust on.Its not really that generally means that they cant be trusted but it would really be just common sense that you should really be that
mindful about the risks involved when dealing up with new platforms because they havent still proven out themselves but as i said earlier that not all the time that new platforms are considered to be shady.You would eventually be able to notice it out if ever you are really that playing into something which is really that not really looks legit at all. Its always been wise to see some feedback first before you would really
be tending to make out deposits but if you do like to test out waters then it would really be your choice because its our money then we do have the full rights on what are the things that we must do.

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There are casinos that have very clear TOS and that is where you have to go, it is not about anything else, but there are cases where the KYC is activated with a withdrawal amount of 4 figures, but you withdraw $400 (e.g.) and the process is activated.

Some time ago in a casino, according to them I logged in from the United States, something very rare but then according to them the verification is activated for that and not for the amount, it is generally a country that is blocked in many Casinos, I did not provide any document but I gave one phone number.

Then there was no problem and I was able to withdraw, the thing is that it was a recognized casino and also they it here in the forum, but without a doubt that is where later the unreliable casinos begin to "dizzy" with the withdrawal and request more documents, then to avoid headaches, only play in recognized casinos and always read the TOS, even if they are the most reliable casinos.

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Quote from: maydna on July 23, 2023, 09:55:44 AM

Quote from: seleme on July 22, 2023, 04:38:57 PM

I suggest reading T&C before making a deposit and hoping to hit big multipliers. Sometimes, casino platforms ask for KYC when a new user tries to withdraw big from a small deposit and they hope the impatient gambler will lose back all profit while the team checks for documents. I have never faced such issues but that is what I have heard on some shady casinos.

That's what every gambler should do before starting to deposit his money. But unfortunately, only a few gamblers want to take the time to read the rules because the rules page is too long. But it was for their own good because they could avoid making unintentional mistakes if they understood the rules well.

And when they get their big win, they will have no problem withdrawing the money even if the casino asks them to do KYC, they won't mind either because it's written in the casino. Only gamblers who underestimate the rules and think all the rules in every casino are the same will get into trouble.

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Quote from: Lida93 on July 23, 2023, 11:51:16 AM

Quote from: cafter on July 20, 2023, 08:30:11 AM

seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

The complains will never stop because kyc will always be requested by these online casinos whenever a big win is made and withdraw is about to be initiated. Customers should protect themselves by taking it as a necessity to go through the company's ToS especially as it concerns terms of withdrawals before going ahead to make use of the casino not waiting for when you're by chance lucky to get a big win then you later find yourself in a KYC net saga and starts complaining.

Better you complete everything about kyc before going ahead to make deposit to using the account for your gambling than waiting after getting a big win.

If we plan to spend a huge amount of money in gambling, we have a high chance of getting huge wins. So in order for the problem of difficulty in withdrawing our winnings due to the unmeet KYC requirement, we must do the KYC and other requirements first before depositing a huge amount of money. Only deposit when the KYC is approved and avoid breaching the TOS of a casino like multiple accounts and other exploits.

If we keep our account clean then we might not experience any problem even the issue on the delayed withdrawal due to huge winnings.

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Quote from: cafter on July 20, 2023, 08:30:11 AM

seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

The complains will never stop because kyc will always be requested by these online casinos whenever a big win is made and withdraw is about to be initiated. Customers should protect themselves by taking it as a necessity to go through the company's ToS especially as it concerns terms of withdrawals before going ahead to make use of the casino not waiting for when you're by chance lucky to get a big win then you later find yourself in a KYC net saga and starts complaining.

Better you complete everything about kyc before going ahead to make deposit to using the account for your gambling than waiting after getting a big win.

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 22, 2023, 04:16:09 PM

Nope, I can’t say that I have. In fact, I don’t believe I’ve ever made a deposit to an online casino ever in my life. I’ve gotten some bonuses given to me to play with and then there’s things like signature campaign funds that I’m given and usually play around a little with. As far as making a deposit and pulling out more than I deposited, it’s never even been attempted.

Man, if I'm not wrong then you are depositing funds to those online casinos from the earnings of your signature campaigns, and that's a accepted way because the money you earn from signature campaigns in yours and it's your choice either to keep it on the wallet, withdraw it as fiat, or deposit it to a casino site and play some gambling at that site.

I'm quite sure that most of us have done that thing, and we have never been able to earn more than what we deposited, and the worse thing is that we have lost most of what we have deposited because gambling depends on someone's luck and if someone isn't lucky enough than withdrawing more money than deposit isn't possible for such user.

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If I am not wrong, most of the casinos asks you to wager 100% of the amount before withdrawing. And there is also a limit of amount you can withdraw without doing KYC. So make sure you understand these things properly before trying anything. These things are mentioned in the FAQ section of the casino or you can contact their live support, 9/10 times you will get a response back within an hour of your initial message.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 23, 2023, 11:17:53 AM

Quote from: danadc on July 22, 2023, 04:09:40 PM

I think that this is normal, it is the duty of every casino, if a person deposits and wins, it is their right to withdraw, and yes, there should not be a KYC requirement to do so, because it would condition them or force them to give their data in order to opt for the benefit, I do not agree with the KYC to withdraw,

Nobody agreed to giving out their private information to casinos but since we're dealing with money here casino are obligated to asked for KYC verification. All casinos are now doing it and if this continue they'll be forcing us to abandon them and move to web3 casinos.

The user automatically agree the moment they sign up on the casino since reading ang agreeing on the casino ToS is part of the registration process before anyone can play in the casino. User that complained about KYC usually don’t read the ToS especially the AML policy section that clearly stated that casino will have the right to ask for KYC.

Decentralized casino is indeed the solution for KYC but the trust issue problem on casino without license will become the main concern.

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Quote from: danadc on July 22, 2023, 04:09:40 PM

I think that this is normal, it is the duty of every casino, if a person deposits and wins, it is their right to withdraw, and yes, there should not be a KYC requirement to do so, because it would condition them or force them to give their data in order to opt for the benefit, I do not agree with the KYC to withdraw,

Nobody agreed to giving out their private information to casinos but since we're dealing with money here casino are obligated to asked for KYC verification. All casinos are now doing it and if this continue they'll be forcing us to abandon them and move to web3 casinos.

This is meant to be a decentralized environment, exchanges are also requesting for KYC verification but we have decentralized exchange that aren't asking of KYC verification which we can use as an alternative to the centralized exchanges mandating use to pass KYC.

If we can get very good decentralized casino and sportsbook. I won't hesitant to start making use of them instead of the centralized casino that's becoming very popular. For now we just have to obey their rules so we can withdraw our win but soon they won't see customers.

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