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Quote from: Peanutswar on July 23, 2023, 05:10:19 AM

I suggest reading T&C before making a deposit and hoping to hit big multipliers. Sometimes, casino platforms ask for KYC when a new user tries to withdraw big from a small deposit and they hope the impatient gambler will lose back all profit while the team checks for documents. I have never faced such issues but that is what I have heard on some shady casinos.

Every casino did this, it's just a matter with how much you withdraw.

For a big casino, they might think deposit $10 and withdrawed $1,000 is still fine because $9,990 isn't a big lost for them because they've make more money than such amount.

But for a small casino, they might think $9,990 is a big lost for them because they only earn $100-$300 everyday, which mean they're need to work without getting any profit for 1-3 months. This make the casino will ask KYC and giving numerous excuse in order to not pay the winnings.

They check if the user has made deposits recently before accepting a withdrawal request. Big losses are expected in gambling, ofc our losses go straight pocket of the casino managers.
It has been confirmed many times, there are many ways to limit user who keep winning every day. The methods can be explored through scam accusation board as well.

I suggest reading T&C before making a deposit and hoping to hit big multipliers. Sometimes, casino platforms ask for KYC when a new user tries to withdraw big from a small deposit and they hope the impatient gambler will lose back all profit while the team checks for documents. I have never faced such issues but that is what I have heard on some shady casinos.

Even though you/we keep saying this to read the Terms and condition we cannot deny that most of gamblers do not want to read the long text for sure they make immediately deposit once they see that the events or the bonuses in favor in their side and once they hit a jackpot makes a question once they want to make immediately withdrawal for a newly created account.

I also can't deny this fact, there are many similar cases showing how gambling websites block the big winners who don't read the terms and conditions during registration and accept it.
Terms&conditions are there for a reason, we can't say we didn't see this line or something like that to blame casino itself. Big winners don't have time to read whole page as well.

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Quote from: danadc on July 22, 2023, 04:09:40 PM

I suggest reading T&C before making a deposit and hoping to hit big multipliers. Sometimes, casino platforms ask for KYC when a new user tries to withdraw big from a small deposit and they hope the impatient gambler will lose back all profit while the team checks for documents. I have never faced such issues but that is what I have heard on some shady casinos.

That's what every gambler should do before starting to deposit his money. But unfortunately, only a few gamblers want to take the time to read the rules because the rules page is too long. But it was for their own good because they could avoid making unintentional mistakes if they understood the rules well.

And when they get their big win, they will have no problem withdrawing the money even if the casino asks them to do KYC, they won't mind either because it's written in the casino. Only gamblers who underestimate the rules and think all the rules in every casino are the same will get into trouble.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 22, 2023, 03:19:30 PM

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do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

I have deposited small amount and won big amount then withdraw without much challenges but that was before all casinos are now requesting for KYC. Casinos aren't as fun as they were when you're not force to pass KYC and you can gamble as much as you want.

Today just for small wins, I have to pass KYC or sometimes you have to pass the KYC before you can bet on the casinos, all this regulations are taking the fun out of gambling. No casino would want to force their players to complete KYC if they weren't been forced by the fed.

The government are trying to control everything and they're focusing more on cryptocurency and platforms that uses them like casino and sportsbook. They want people not be comfortable using them so they stop getting customer and making profits to kill the platforms.

I think that this is normal, it is the duty of every casino, if a person deposits and wins, it is their right to withdraw, and yes, there should not be a KYC requirement to do so, because it would condition them or force them to give their data in order to opt for the benefit, I do not agree with the KYC to withdraw, I think it is an act of obligation that should not be, but all casinos have those rules, Or the ones I know are already setting those conditions and it's something that nobody likes, I like to play and withdraw, if I want to, I'll go back to the casino or not, but when they force someone you don't like, it doesn't feel comfortable at all.

If in any casino the terms and conditions of KYC is not mandatory then casino should not ask for KYC data at the time of subsequent withdrawals, it is definitely an illegal act which is never acceptable to anyone. However, KYC may be requested for some reasons if the casino finds something suspicious in the gambler. Moreover, for big winnings, the gambler's KYC is mandatory, which may be necessary to resolve legal issues. But if there is no such thing happen then casino should not ask for KYC.

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Nope, I can’t say that I have. In fact, I don’t believe I’ve ever made a deposit to an online casino ever in my life. I’ve gotten some bonuses given to me to play with and then there’s things like signature campaign funds that I’m given and usually play around a little with. As far as making a deposit and pulling out more than I deposited, it’s never even been attempted.

that is what a gambler usually does is when he doesn't realize that he has made their first deposit to activate the welcome bonus, I have also done that without realizing it instead of just playing for fun nothing more, in fact I have also experienced defeat playing gambling even though not much but it will be an experience where I first got to know gambling making a deposit to gamble because the welcome bonus was tempting.

besides that I also often gamble using payments from casino campaigns, sometimes a little of the earnings I always play before I withdraw the money to my personal wallet. but I've never really withdrawn my winnings from the casino except for playing sports betting I often withdraw money because playing casino is hard to win except just for fun. Cheesy

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Quote from: Weawant on July 22, 2023, 03:19:30 PM

I suggest reading T&C before making a deposit and hoping to hit big multipliers. Sometimes, casino platforms ask for KYC when a new user tries to withdraw big from a small deposit and they hope the impatient gambler will lose back all profit while the team checks for documents. I have never faced such issues but that is what I have heard on some shady casinos.

Even though you/we keep saying this to read the Terms and condition we cannot deny that most of gamblers do not want to read the long text for sure they make immediately deposit once they see that the events or the bonuses in favor in their side and once they hit a jackpot makes a question once they want to make immediately withdrawal for a newly created account.

Today just for small wins, I have to pass KYC or sometimes you have to pass the KYC before you can bet on the casinos, all this regulations are taking the fun out of gambling. No casino would want to force their players to complete KYC if they weren't been forced by the fed.

The government are trying to control everything and they're focusing more on cryptocurency and platforms that uses them like casino and sportsbook. They want people not be comfortable using them so they stop getting customer and making profits to kill the platforms.

Cannot deny this thing because its getting an exchange of information for just a small amount, personal information is one of the most important details but with the small amount of money we can exchange this which most likely happens.

The government cannot make a move on it unless they make a law or the SEC action to stop operating for a specific country.

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I suggest reading T&C before making a deposit and hoping to hit big multipliers. Sometimes, casino platforms ask for KYC when a new user tries to withdraw big from a small deposit and they hope the impatient gambler will lose back all profit while the team checks for documents. I have never faced such issues but that is what I have heard on some shady casinos.

Every casino did this, it's just a matter with how much you withdraw.

For a big casino, they might think deposit $10 and withdrawed $1,000 is still fine because $9,990 isn't a big lost for them because they've make more money than such amount.

But for a small casino, they might think $9,990 is a big lost for them because they only earn $100-$300 everyday, which mean they're need to work without getting any profit for 1-3 months. This make the casino will ask KYC and giving numerous excuse in order to not pay the winnings.

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Generally, they wouldn't say anything if the amount isn't so significant and if you have completed the wagering requirement for your deposit, there should be no problems at all. But, if you haven't completed the wagering requirement, you won't be allowed to withdraw the money until you complete that, and if the amount you've won is pretty high and you haven't completed the KYC verification, you will surely be asked to complete your KYC first.

I don't think that a casino platform would allow someone to withdraw their winnings without these two things being completed, because if they do so, they would be in loss because I'm pretty sure a lot of gamblers manage to get big wins before they've completed their wagering requirement.

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I suggest reading T&C before making a deposit and hoping to hit big multipliers. Sometimes, casino platforms ask for KYC when a new user tries to withdraw big from a small deposit and they hope the impatient gambler will lose back all profit while the team checks for documents. I have never faced such issues but that is what I have heard on some shady casinos. Shady casinos don't even need to explain how things work, what they do is to identify big winners, IMO.

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Quote from: Weawant on July 22, 2023, 03:19:30 PM

In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.

It should be like this if they really believe on the secured system and can’t be cheated, no questions asked since there’s no irregularities with the account after depositing small money and won 100x. Though there’s still a chance to check your background just to confirm if you can receive the reward and if not, then that’s a big save for the site. Choose the reputable site to avoid having problem like this, especially of they can’t still allow your withdrawal even if you provided everything.

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Nope, I can’t say that I have. In fact, I don’t believe I’ve ever made a deposit to an online casino ever in my life. I’ve gotten some bonuses given to me to play with and then there’s things like signature campaign funds that I’m given and usually play around a little with. As far as making a deposit and pulling out more than I deposited, it’s never even been attempted.

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do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

I have deposited small amount and won big amount then withdraw without much challenges but that was before all casinos are now requesting for KYC. Casinos aren't as fun as they were when you're not force to pass KYC and you can gamble as much as you want.

Today just for small wins, I have to pass KYC or sometimes you have to pass the KYC before you can bet on the casinos, all this regulations are taking the fun out of gambling. No casino would want to force their players to complete KYC if they weren't been forced by the fed.

The government are trying to control everything and they're focusing more on cryptocurency and platforms that uses them like casino and sportsbook. They want people not be comfortable using them so they stop getting customer and making profits to kill the platforms.

I think that this is normal, it is the duty of every casino, if a person deposits and wins, it is their right to withdraw, and yes, there should not be a KYC requirement to do so, because it would condition them or force them to give their data in order to opt for the benefit, I do not agree with the KYC to withdraw, I think it is an act of obligation that should not be, but all casinos have those rules, Or the ones I know are already setting those conditions and it's something that nobody likes, I like to play and withdraw, if I want to, I'll go back to the casino or not, but when they force someone you don't like, it doesn't feel comfortable at all.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 22, 2023, 02:36:49 AM

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

I have deposited small amount and won big amount then withdraw without much challenges but that was before all casinos are now requesting for KYC. Casinos aren't as fun as they were when you're not force to pass KYC and you can gamble as much as you want.

Today just for small wins, I have to pass KYC or sometimes you have to pass the KYC before you can bet on the casinos, all this regulations are taking the fun out of gambling. No casino would want to force their players to complete KYC if they weren't been forced by the fed.

The government are trying to control everything and they're focusing more on cryptocurency and platforms that uses them like casino and sportsbook. They want people not be comfortable using them so they stop getting customer and making profits to kill the platforms.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on July 21, 2023, 05:24:17 PM

In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.

Locking your account is something the casino will do easily, especially if you have committed fraud and are known by the casino. If their winnings aren't huge and the casino is a non-KYC/instant withdrawal casino, they won't hinder those who want to withdraw their winnings. But if the user is proven to be cheating, even if it is a non-KYC casino, the casino may ask you to do KYC before processing your withdrawal. We must remember that casinos can easily check the account of every gambler present on their site so don't try to cheat the casino because they will find out.

If a gambler is caught cheating, I think it's not necessary for them to undergo a KYC process. The casino can simply close the account and forfeit the balance. As gamblers, we are well aware that if we cheat, we cannot hold the casino accountable for doing the right thing. KYC should only be associated with requirements mandated by the regulators and not with cheating cases.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2023, 02:58:55 PM

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Yes, you are right. It's not about how much you won but rather about how you won it.
If you are a loyal customer and the casino knows that your winnings are legitimate, they will never block your withdrawals. They will approve them instantly because they know you won it without cheating. However, if you are a new customer and make a big win, they will have some suspicions and they will need some time to verify how you managed to make such a big win.

- You're right there, because in my experience it hasn't really been a problem. or maybe it also depends on the game provider you played with. Because I'm the one who often plays, most gamblers also play often.

Then I usually play slot games, rarely baccarat every now and then. Then it also depends on the casino we will play at, because if it has been known for a long time in the gambling industry of crypto, it is for sure that if it is good and you have not done anything against their rules, you will be able to withdraw your winnings without any problem.

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many online casinos lately have made it compulsory for users to be kyced upon registration or after registration and most times failure to comply makes it difficult for users to make withdrawals especially when they win huge sum of money.
I've happened to use 500 In my local currency before to win about 200k and was able to make withdrawals easily without asking for a wager or being kyced, though it happens bur it depends of the casino or online gaining site, the thing is this casino want you to lose and enrich themselves so when you're lucky enough to use little funds to win ×500 of profits they'll look for every possible means to get back such amount of money from you either by asking you to wager and be unfortunate to lose some of your winnings to them or ask for frustrating requirements for kyc and proof of ownership of documents, some would even go to the extent of demanding that you provide utility bills or statements of transaction.
Most times the online casino lock users acount when the discovery fraudulent activities from a bank account used in depositing funds into a users account. Because some individuals use online gambling sites as a means of saving funds gotten from fraudulent acts.

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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.

usually it will happen if there is something fishy and the system detects that there is no cheating done by the user until all withdrawal processes are done usually the casino will ask the user to complete KYC to ensure that all the money withdrawn is an honest win, but for casinos without KYC there will be no problem withdrawing money at any time.

talking about KYC mostly only done by small casinos who ask gamblers to complete KYC for reasons that are not very clear where casinos don't want gamblers to withdraw their money from the casino and freeze their accounts, usually because winning big money from the casino then withholds all the winning money along with the capital so it's difficult to win big money in small casinos let alone cheat the casino itself.

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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.

Locking your account is something the casino will do easily, especially if you have committed fraud and are known by the casino. If their winnings aren't huge and the casino is a non-KYC/instant withdrawal casino, they won't hinder those who want to withdraw their winnings. But if the user is proven to be cheating, even if it is a non-KYC casino, the casino may ask you to do KYC before processing your withdrawal. We must remember that casinos can easily check the account of every gambler present on their site so don't try to cheat the casino because they will find out.

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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.

Yes, any suspicious actions will definitely be handled immediately by the casino, whether freezing the account or asking for KYC verification because the casino also doesn't want to be at a loss.
If we don't feel we have made a mistake, it is better to give what is requested by the casino so that we can avoid prolonged problems and also we can play comfortably and calmly.
Even so, there are not a few gamblers who try to deceive casinos, so it's only natural that casinos always suspect and track every action they feel can be detrimental.

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In an event like this, The casino will immediately think that you cheated them. They will lock your account and ask for KYC and that’s a natural first reaction. You would the same if you were in their shoes. If it is non-KYC/instant-withdraw casino we are talking about, then it is a whole different story because these casinos know that you can’t really cheat them in any way. They trust their code so you can win and leave right away and nobody will stop you.

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