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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
if it's a real gambling addict, I kinda doubt if they even thought about that. on the contrary, usually they will not think about anything other than high expectations to benefit from this gambling. maybe what they have in mind is how to get money and do gambling activities again Until they can win when in reality they Keep losing and losing until their money is completely gone, until They sell what they have, And also they have a lot of debt for gambling. we have found lots of negative effects from gambling addiction. That's why we have to be good at controlling ourselves and managing everything related to gambling so that we can avoid this addictive condition.
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.
When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.

In fact, if a person suffers from gambling addiction, it makes no difference how much money he wins. He enjoys the very process of gambling, because the release of endorphins and adrenaline into the blood occurs both when he wins and when he loses (a little less). A gambling addict is more likely to lose all the money he has won because he does not care about it; he cares about his emotions.

And as for the help of loved ones, I absolutely agree with you. Any addiction is easier to beat when you have the support of people close to you.
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Gambling addiction is so complex to understand. I wouldn't be surprised if the woman in the story tried to keep tried to protect her husband's addiction. The most important thing to a gambling addict is to satisfy that urge to gamble just like a heroine addict doesn't mind sleeping with the seller for the drug. In these cases, they aren't worried or concerned about the consequences of such action rather their aim is the immediate gratification involved.

Addiction is simply the pursuit of immediate gratification and the addiction would go the ends of the world no matter what the consequences might be to be gratified. But for gambling addicts, I have always wondered does the gratifications comes from gambling or from winning?
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Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Gambling addicts are not some subhuman trash, although some can be, and act such a way.

The very problem in addiction, whether its from gambling, drugs, alcohol, food etc. all points to the same physical cause. The brain chemistry of an addict is going haywire and is not as it should be. This Dysbalance in for example, dopamine receptors that cannot work properly after being abused by dopamine draining drugs or behavior.

So what it really is is a neurological and mental illness that needs to be treated professionally, otherwise the individual does not stand much of a chance beating it him/herself. And thats the point in which things become desperate.

So the things they do and say is understandable, even if its not tolerable.
I get what you're trying to say here, and I sympathize with them as much as the next guy who's aware of the risks and dangers of being addicted to gambling but at the same time, if you let yourself be stuck in that situation, cause let's face it even though your brain's going haywire you still have agency over your actions and words which in all manners of the sense makes you liable for every action you'd take from here on out, including the use of intervention to prevent further succumbing to addiction. That's why we have people who could quit smoking, taking drugs and all that out of their own volition or assisted by a professional, it all starts within the self.

So you can't really absolve them of any crimes they will commit just because their dopamine receptors are fucked. That wouldn't hold up well in court.

Of course we cannot let them off so easily, just because they are addicted - they still made their own decisions, whilst being warned by others not to do them. Everything is their responsibility and in no way do I condone such actions. Why should someone be spared the consequences of their own actions? That is completely fine by me.

What I am saying is that addiction is not well understood. And I am certain that if addicted criminals get the professional help they need, while in prison, then there is almost a 100% chance that they will keep going against the law once they get out of prison.

Rehabilitation is important.

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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

They are blinded and good reasoning will not suffice them, they have created a monster ego so they will not listen even to the best advice, I have seen the worse in a gambling addict the guy steal from his manager of 20 years he losses all his retirement benefits and go to jail.

He only feels sorry when he has done irreparable damage to himself and his family, which is why families should always be on the look or watch if any of their family is becoming addiction gambling, they need early intervention before everything is too late.
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Yes. They are even planning already what to do if they lost their capital. I guess the husband planned it all to steal the jewelry, he just didn't count one situation where the cleaning lady will be arrested. Gamblers are still human though, they feel bad just like everyone else, and they'd be sympathetic as well when something bad happens to someone.

The itchy feeling is just too much to resist like the smoker who would have to walk a mile just to buy a pack of cigarettes in the middle of the night.
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When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.
One thing is to be an addict; the other is to accept; most gamblers never acknowledge that they are addicts, which worsens the condition in question. Gambling is an addiction; one must know when to gamble and when to stop; it is our decision to either quit when we are not making profits or to continue our quest for big earnings, recording hugh losses. Addicts are the most catastrophic kind of gamblers considering they are willing to do all in their power to place wagers on games, whether for profits or losses, which they accept and repeat the entire process daily.
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When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

Most gambling addicts would not think much of this, as their hope of winning has overcome fear. Whatever the end result is losing or winning, they will still do it again, winning will make things very enjoyable for them and losing is a natural thing that will most likely happen more often, when they experience defeat they will think that today. they were unlucky and then they will do it again tomorrow with great confidence to win.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.

Gambling is fun and fun things will turn into a hobby for happiness, they will not realize and will not really care how much money they have spent, it is difficult for them to get out of the zone because their mind is always focused on hoping for a win . They will not be able to stop while they have money or valuables to gamble with and this cycle will continue until they realize they have lost everything they had when they needed it most.
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.
When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.
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Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Undoubtedly, this topic is something that should be dealt with and discussed, but we are a betting board, most of whom here have a signature on them and bring up topics like these asking for advice, about doing this or that.

It is very rare to find here issues related to betting in essence to gambling, but if topics with addicts to betting, it seems that although they do not make bets it is easy for them to judge or create "issues" about it.

I recommend that you find an expert, I just wrote it, the game is not the problem, it's the individuals, if you have that problem you have it the same with drink, marijuana, pain relievers etc.

As for your questions, they can be answered by an addict or an expert on the subject of addictions, and perhaps I have read that some users here have been addicted, but it is always an individual experience.
Topics of gambling addicts.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-madness-of-gambling-addicts-5450381
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/5-behavioural-signs-that-suggest-you-are-addicted-to-gambling-5454650
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-gambling-addicts-bother-about-the-consequences-of-their-actions-5456913
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First, a good story, and it was proven who did it, so a big sigh to that.
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
No, I don't think so. It's not different with drug addicts. They will only realize the consequences when they are done with the money, or spent all of it in their gambling habit.
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Yes and no. There are those who feel guilty about what they did and they might tell the truth after the money is spent. But as much as possible, if it could stay hidden then they will not tell anything. If nobody will react then it will stay the same way until they are caught.
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
That's why discipline is much needed in gambling. When I was a child was taught about not being greedy, and avoiding addictive substances and activities. Up until now I still carry the lesson given to me by the one who looked after me. That is also the reason why I know to myself that I won't be a gambling addict. Every time I use the spare money that I have and it's a loss, I just give up and let time flow, take a rest. I know I can gamble again some other time when I have spare money again. I don't need to steal or anything just to satisfy my hobby.
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Before stating my answers for all three questions I would like to mention the following;

As far as I have observed I can divide the gambling addicts into two;

Some gambling addicts constantly gamble within their own budget simply because they can't beat their own desires, and if their budget runs out they stop gambling until they can find money again.

Some gambling addicts, find money by performing all kinds of activities to gamble and consume this money in gambling as in the event described.

To answer the questions by generalizing;

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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?


Especially the gambling addicts that I mentioned as the second do not think about themselves or the people around them when they are going to gamble. In other words, it doesn't matter that if there is a mistake to be made, harm will come to him/her or to his/her environment.

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2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?

Of course, except when they gamble these people think about how the people around them are affected by these situations but this is not the case when they gamble. In addition, they do not think about what can be done for these people in a solution-oriented manner.  

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3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Yes, unfortunately, after a certain point gambling becomes the standard of living for such people.
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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

They do, but their obsession to gamble gets the best of their logical thinking, some obsessive gamblers are responsible fathers behind them but they kept their obsessive gambling because they cannot control themselves, these gamblers need help and sympathy than being judged.

They only feel remorse after they satisfy their cravings for gamblers, like all types of addicts they need the help of professionals, I talked to one obsessive gambler and they do want to get help but they are helpless and don't want to be judged as weak so they prefer to hide their addiction.
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.
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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

This ia a matter of shame we are talking about, some gamblers don't have this shame regardless of the conditions that warrant for such, they will always think its as a normal thing in life to do because their orientation and focused have been changed as well, they no longer sees whatever they do as not being wrong in their own sight, the family would have tried their best but when everything yielded nothing to show forth they will have to decided on leaving such person alone since they believe he's natured enough to be always corrected for doing wrong things all the time.
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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

Well this is a must. but, apart from support from family and proffesional, he must aggree with a fact that he must be able to getting out from this addiction. I know a person here, he got support from all of his family to stop gambling, even paying off his debts because he promised to stop gambling, in fact, he still repeats the same thing, he gambles without thinking about the people who have supported him before, and owes back with more than amount before. What does that mean, even support from family and professionals will fail if there is no action to out from his addiction.
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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

Yes, I bet too that they are all aware of what they are doing. But because they are addicted, they cannot distinguish anything between right or wrong anymore or weigh some things first if it's good for their own family or bad as the only thing that matters for them at that very moment is to continue their activity by means of gambling.

Might be too unfortunate to think but that's their reality and without the family's support and help from the professionals, he/she might have a very rough and rocky road towards recovery.
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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
first of all gambling addicts also have a sense of regret and he can also think twice about what they are going to do. but that feeling of guilt and positive thinking will just disappear and be forgotten with the addiction that has taken over his own mind.
for example, the gambler stole his wife's jewelry, even though before doing this the gambler thought about whether this was the right behavior, but the addiction in his mind replied that stealing his wife's jewelry would not be a problem because if he later won at gambling, he would definitely be replaced, but in the end he lost again.
and after that because of the defeat he got he came home with a sense of regret for stealing his wife's jewelery and he started to get emotional with gambling doing the same thing stealing valuables again in the hope of chasing defeat to take back the money he had lost at gambling and would do negative things like it's continuous.

so that the gambling addict has been controlled by thoughts that have always chased previous losses because of a sense of emotion that overpowers these positive thoughts.
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They're being called addicts for a reason. An addict is somebody who is already out of his mind. It means he cannot anymore control the urges from within. I have read of many news related to crimes committed by addicted individuals. They're horrible. You can't imagine a sane person doing them. So I don't think these gambling addicts stealing something from other people would be bothered by the consequences of their crimes. Perhaps it will happen only after they've finished their rehab treatment and they already got back their sanity.
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Such addicts realize what they are doing and what they are doing just to get the money to continue gambling and hope that their fatigue will return if they continue to gamble.
and crime cases such as gambling addicts by stealing and so on, there have been many cases like this, and after being caught or exposed they admit the results of their crimes to play gambling.
and this kind of case applies to other addicts and they do it to get money so they can fulfill their addiction in any way.
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