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Quote from: boyptc on December 13, 2023, 04:55:03 PM

Quote from: Quidat on December 13, 2023, 03:55:50 PM

If you are really doing something to get rid of your addiction then its possible but its not something that would really be that simple.You would really be needing that extreme mind control and discipline because fighting addiction does really need up that kind of dedication and discipline because if you dont have these things then you are really that still bound on sticking into that addiction.

Speaking about making use of loan money then you are just simply doing suicide because doing such thing is never been that recommendable or something that you must do because
you are really putting up yourself on great danger considering that making up this kind of decision making on using loan money for you to gamble
is really just not that ideal to be done by someone whose really still at their right minds.

It is true that it is not simple but it is manageable and doable.

Those that are doing their best to get out of addiction and avoid loaning to gamble, they're doing an initiative. What must be done for them to completely get out of addiction is to be consistent.

The willingness together with temperance and consistency, the impossible can become possible for them.

If you can apply the word consistent in the changes you make slowly then it is not impossible, I mean change will always be possible but it may take time to struggle to get used to everything so as not to overdo it, at least you have made an effort and over time I am sure it will produce results that are at least good enough.

Some people especially addicts make loans as the best alternative if at that time they run out of money to bet, thinking and assuming that in the next session they will be able to win so there is absolutely no doubt for them to make a loan, but the fact remains that no matter how often and how much budget you put on gambling in reality if luck does not come at the same time then obviously the final result will always be disappointing. Borrowing money to gamble is just like you are building a new trap to trap yourself in many new problems, getting into debt? obviously that is one of the effects that will be received by gamblers who always overdo it. True, anything will be possible if you are able to apply the word consistent if you really want to change.

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Quote from: Quidat on December 13, 2023, 03:55:50 PM

If you are really doing something to get rid of your addiction then its possible but its not something that would really be that simple.You would really be needing that extreme mind control and discipline because fighting addiction does really need up that kind of dedication and discipline because if you dont have these things then you are really that still bound on sticking into that addiction.

Speaking about making use of loan money then you are just simply doing suicide because doing such thing is never been that recommendable or something that you must do because
you are really putting up yourself on great danger considering that making up this kind of decision making on using loan money for you to gamble
is really just not that ideal to be done by someone whose really still at their right minds.

It is true that it is not simple but it is manageable and doable.

Those that are doing their best to get out of addiction and avoid loaning to gamble, they're doing an initiative. What must be done for them to completely get out of addiction is to be consistent.

The willingness together with temperance and consistency, the impossible can become possible for them.

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Quote from: boyptc on December 13, 2023, 03:48:39 PM

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Quote from: boyptc on December 12, 2023, 04:59:12 PM

Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

Or, he's already addicted at all.

There's no need to wait for confirmation because if you've done such, then that's for sure that you've been basically doing it wrongly because instead of other important matters that needs your finance.

You're doing to ask for the loan just for you to get ahead with your gambling addiction that satisfies you.

I think you are right because if you compare it to an alcoholic, it doesn't need for an alcoholic to be drunk to understand that there is an addiction. It is often said that addictions never go away, but that there are tools to deal with them and keep living with them. As you said it doesn't need harm to be done first in order to understand that someone is addicted to gambling. If someone takes a loan for gambling, the addiction has most likely been there and now it is like with the alcoholic who is sober but can't resist the bottle in the supermarket. The bottle is the red line and the loan is the red line that nobody should cross, but the addiction is there regardless. You are correct.

I believe that addictions can go away. It will just depend on how you're going to work on it and try to avoid things that the usual people are doing when they are addicted.

Taking a loan to gamble is a no thing to do because you are only proving that you have the signs already and that's why it shouldn't be done. A person who will do that is not going to that direction.

But, he's already in his pathway and already on the actual direction and is addicted hitherto.

If you are really doing something to get rid of your addiction then its possible but its not something that would really be that simple.You would really be needing that extreme mind control and discipline because fighting addiction does really need up that kind of dedication and discipline because if you dont have these things then you are really that still bound on sticking into that addiction.

Speaking about making use of loan money then you are just simply doing suicide because doing such thing is never been that recommendable or something that you must do because
you are really putting up yourself on great danger considering that making up this kind of decision making on using loan money for you to gamble
is really just not that ideal to be done by someone whose really still at their right minds.

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Quote from: shogun47 on December 13, 2023, 01:04:35 PM

Quote from: boyptc on December 12, 2023, 04:59:12 PM

Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

Or, he's already addicted at all.

There's no need to wait for confirmation because if you've done such, then that's for sure that you've been basically doing it wrongly because instead of other important matters that needs your finance.

You're doing to ask for the loan just for you to get ahead with your gambling addiction that satisfies you.

I think you are right because if you compare it to an alcoholic, it doesn't need for an alcoholic to be drunk to understand that there is an addiction. It is often said that addictions never go away, but that there are tools to deal with them and keep living with them. As you said it doesn't need harm to be done first in order to understand that someone is addicted to gambling. If someone takes a loan for gambling, the addiction has most likely been there and now it is like with the alcoholic who is sober but can't resist the bottle in the supermarket. The bottle is the red line and the loan is the red line that nobody should cross, but the addiction is there regardless. You are correct.

I believe that addictions can go away. It will just depend on how you're going to work on it and try to avoid things that the usual people are doing when they are addicted.

Taking a loan to gamble is a no thing to do because you are only proving that you have the signs already and that's why it shouldn't be done. A person who will do that is not going to that direction.

But, he's already in his pathway and already on the actual direction and is addicted hitherto.

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Quote from: Ever-young on December 13, 2023, 01:19:43 PM

Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

That's not how addiction always works. I think people sometimes know very well what's going on. If you consider alcohol or drugs, it is not that people don't know they are destroying their body. I think this is what makes addictions so bad. People often do know the consequences of their actions and yet they can't stop it. This is what makes them feel powerless, which can ultimately make everything worse because at some point they might give up on trying. That's when everything is going South really hard and they can lose it all, which can be money or health depending on what addiction someone is fighting.

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

Have you ever been in a position where you just want a have a bite of something you said you weren't gonna be eating again, maybe something you liked s much but realized you're not supposed to, maybe chocolate or sugar because the doctor advised you to cut em out because of diabetes. And you've been tryna do that for a while, and then one day you just couldn't help it anymore and you decided to have just one bite and after that one bite you realize how much you've missed chocolate and then you go for another bite completely ignoring and forgetting the doctor's instructions and before you know it, you've consumed a great deal of it. That's exactly how it works, I've been addicted once so I can tell you how it felt, it's not a good feeling because sometimes I feel I'm hypnotized and all I can think of at that moment is to gamble and make more and more profits, and even if I make I win, it's never enough as I go for more and more, and I'll keep going until there's nothing left on my bankroll anymore.

Thanks for sharing your experience and this is something important that I was talking about in an earlier post already.

To start with, I'd say that everyone has at some point been addicted to something. Now you could say addicted to sports like excessive running, to collecting something, to playing computer games when we were younger ( I think I was definitely addicted to some computer games for a short while), and many other things.

But the issue is that crossing the red line once doesn't leave the red line where it always was. Usually it shifts the boundaries someone has set for themselves. If someone borrows $100 to gamble with, how much will the person borrow next time? It is like the entry drug when people get from alcohol to weed to ecstasy and on and on. The same can happen with borrowing money until someone fully exhausted any degree of freedom and can't pay back.

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Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

That's not how addiction always works. I think people sometimes know very well what's going on. If you consider alcohol or drugs, it is not that people don't know they are destroying their body. I think this is what makes addictions so bad. People often do know the consequences of their actions and yet they can't stop it. This is what makes them feel powerless, which can ultimately make everything worse because at some point they might give up on trying. That's when everything is going South really hard and they can lose it all, which can be money or health depending on what addiction someone is fighting.

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

Have you ever been in a position where you just want a have a bite of something you said you weren't gonna be eating again, maybe something you liked s much but realized you're not supposed to, maybe chocolate or sugar because the doctor advised you to cut em out because of diabetes. And you've been tryna do that for a while, and then one day you just couldn't help it anymore and you decided to have just one bite and after that one bite you realize how much you've missed chocolate and then you go for another bite completely ignoring and forgetting the doctor's instructions and before you know it, you've consumed a great deal of it. That's exactly how it works, I've been addicted once so I can tell you how it felt, it's not a good feeling because sometimes I feel I'm hypnotized and all I can think of at that moment is to gamble and make more and more profits, and even if I make I win, it's never enough as I go for more and more, and I'll keep going until there's nothing left on my bankroll anymore.

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Quote from: shogun47 on December 13, 2023, 01:04:35 PM

Quote from: boyptc on December 12, 2023, 04:59:12 PM

Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

Or, he's already addicted at all.

There's no need to wait for confirmation because if you've done such, then that's for sure that you've been basically doing it wrongly because instead of other important matters that needs your finance.

You're doing to ask for the loan just for you to get ahead with your gambling addiction that satisfies you.

I think you are right because if you compare it to an alcoholic, it doesn't need for an alcoholic to be drunk to understand that there is an addiction. It is often said that addictions never go away, but that there are tools to deal with them and keep living with them. As you said it doesn't need harm to be done first in order to understand that someone is addicted to gambling. If someone takes a loan for gambling, the addiction has most likely been there and now it is like with the alcoholic who is sober but can't resist the bottle in the supermarket. The bottle is the red line and the loan is the red line that nobody should cross, but the addiction is there regardless. You are correct.

There are things which we can really tell that whenever someone is really dealing up with some addiction then it is really just that impossible that you wont really be able to notice something on whats wrong with you because human senses cant lie, it do really just turns out that these people are really just that neglecting things and really that believe that they could really be able to make things well or would really be able to handle up themselves on the current things that they are dealing with without even trying to zoom out that they are already doing bad decisions along the way.
If ever you have noticed that you are already in danger in terms of finances then it would really be just that right that you should really be stopping right away or else
you would be putting yourself at great trouble.

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Quote from: boyptc on December 12, 2023, 04:59:12 PM

Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

Or, he's already addicted at all.

There's no need to wait for confirmation because if you've done such, then that's for sure that you've been basically doing it wrongly because instead of other important matters that needs your finance.

You're doing to ask for the loan just for you to get ahead with your gambling addiction that satisfies you.

I think you are right because if you compare it to an alcoholic, it doesn't need for an alcoholic to be drunk to understand that there is an addiction. It is often said that addictions never go away, but that there are tools to deal with them and keep living with them. As you said it doesn't need harm to be done first in order to understand that someone is addicted to gambling. If someone takes a loan for gambling, the addiction has most likely been there and now it is like with the alcoholic who is sober but can't resist the bottle in the supermarket. The bottle is the red line and the loan is the red line that nobody should cross, but the addiction is there regardless. You are correct.

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Quote from: Mahanton on December 12, 2023, 04:14:02 PM

Quote from: Ever-young on December 12, 2023, 04:06:18 PM

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This just goes to show that some of us here in this forum don’t actuall Practice what we teach or the advice we give to others we don’t follow them.

Quote from: kotajikikox on November 28, 2023, 02:35:56 AM

also if you will stop gambling from this moment and will find a fit Job , for sure you will pay that debt for shorter time just focus mate.

I highly doubt that the Op would be able to do that, since he confirmed that he’s struggling with gambling addiction, so it would be hard for him to just go on without gambling. He’ll most likely feel the urge to just log into his account and deposit a few dollars to gamble with.

Yeah that's how addiction works, you wouldn't know what's going on until you've lost a huge amount, that's when you eventually realize you could have just walked away.

That's why I always advice people struggling with addiction to get their funds out of their reach, you could look for a trusted person to help you manage your funds during that time. No matter how addicted you are or how much you get the urge to deposit to your account and gamble, if you don't have any money to deposit then you'll definitely look for something else to do. The OP could get someone to take charge of his funds and reach a formal agreement with the person, that on no account should the person release funds to him, except of course the reason is good enough and he should provide a god proof. Else he can't get the money, if this goes on for a few months, you'll definitely see yourself getting rid of the addiction.

Mistakes are common but there are things which we can really be still to avoid specially on taking up some loan just for you to gamble? You are really that putting yourself on such risks considering
that losing in gambling is really just that easy or something that would be an instant. Making use of the amount on which its really been that borrowed or something
that you do took some loan then sooner or later you would be able to realize things that it wasnt the smart thing that you have done.
Dont wait for that moment to happen on.

In gambling there's nothing like mistake, whatever decision a gambler takes and makes is 100% deliberate. Although there are a few certain slight mistakes a gambler could possibly make and that mistake could either cost him or reward him. Just like me for instance, there was a time I wanted to place a bet with just $50 and I mistakenly imputed $500. And at this point, I couldn't do anything other than to pray and hope things don't go wrong, But fortunately for me, it did go as planned. That mistake would've made me loose an amount I wasn't prepared and didn't bargain to loose.

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Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2023, 04:54:19 PM

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

Or, he's already addicted at all.

There's no need to wait for confirmation because if you've done such, then that's for sure that you've been basically doing it wrongly because instead of other important matters that needs your finance.

You're doing to ask for the loan just for you to get ahead with your gambling addiction that satisfies you.

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Quote from: Ever-young on December 12, 2023, 04:06:18 PM

Quote from: Cantsay on November 28, 2023, 04:53:30 AM

This just goes to show that some of us here in this forum don’t actuall Practice what we teach or the advice we give to others we don’t follow them.

Quote from: kotajikikox on November 28, 2023, 02:35:56 AM

also if you will stop gambling from this moment and will find a fit Job , for sure you will pay that debt for shorter time just focus mate.

I highly doubt that the Op would be able to do that, since he confirmed that he’s struggling with gambling addiction, so it would be hard for him to just go on without gambling. He’ll most likely feel the urge to just log into his account and deposit a few dollars to gamble with.

Yeah that's how addiction works, you wouldn't know what's going on until you've lost a huge amount, that's when you eventually realize you could have just walked away.

That's why I always advice people struggling with addiction to get their funds out of their reach, you could look for a trusted person to help you manage your funds during that time. No matter how addicted you are or how much you get the urge to deposit to your account and gamble, if you don't have any money to deposit then you'll definitely look for something else to do. The OP could get someone to take charge of his funds and reach a formal agreement with the person, that on no account should the person release funds to him, except of course the reason is good enough and he should provide a god proof. Else he can't get the money, if this goes on for a few months, you'll definitely see yourself getting rid of the addiction.

That's not how addiction always works. I think people sometimes know very well what's going on. If you consider alcohol or drugs, it is not that people don't know they are destroying their body. I think this is what makes addictions so bad. People often do know the consequences of their actions and yet they can't stop it. This is what makes them feel powerless, which can ultimately make everything worse because at some point they might give up on trying. That's when everything is going South really hard and they can lose it all, which can be money or health depending on what addiction someone is fighting.

Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.

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Quote from: Ever-young on December 12, 2023, 04:06:18 PM

Quote from: Cantsay on November 28, 2023, 04:53:30 AM

This just goes to show that some of us here in this forum don’t actuall Practice what we teach or the advice we give to others we don’t follow them.

Quote from: kotajikikox on November 28, 2023, 02:35:56 AM

also if you will stop gambling from this moment and will find a fit Job , for sure you will pay that debt for shorter time just focus mate.

I highly doubt that the Op would be able to do that, since he confirmed that he’s struggling with gambling addiction, so it would be hard for him to just go on without gambling. He’ll most likely feel the urge to just log into his account and deposit a few dollars to gamble with.

Yeah that's how addiction works, you wouldn't know what's going on until you've lost a huge amount, that's when you eventually realize you could have just walked away.

That's why I always advice people struggling with addiction to get their funds out of their reach, you could look for a trusted person to help you manage your funds during that time. No matter how addicted you are or how much you get the urge to deposit to your account and gamble, if you don't have any money to deposit then you'll definitely look for something else to do. The OP could get someone to take charge of his funds and reach a formal agreement with the person, that on no account should the person release funds to him, except of course the reason is good enough and he should provide a god proof. Else he can't get the money, if this goes on for a few months, you'll definitely see yourself getting rid of the addiction.

Self realization would really be always at the end and this is why it would really be that important that self awareness and sensibility of the things that happening around on which it would be the best approach that you would really be able to do because you wont really be able to assess up things on point on which this is where most people do really fail on doing so. Just like on what you have said that things could really be able to point out on the time that you have seen that you are already losing too much or simply we shall say that in the end of the line on which people would really be that usually be seeing that the things that they've been doing is already that considered to be not good or really just that too much.

Mistakes are common but there are things which we can really be still to avoid specially on taking up some loan just for you to gamble? You are really that putting yourself on such risks considering
that losing in gambling is really just that easy or something that would be an instant. Making use of the amount on which its really been that borrowed or something
that you do took some loan then sooner or later you would be able to realize things that it wasnt the smart thing that you have done.
Dont wait for that moment to happen on.

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Quote from: Cantsay on November 28, 2023, 04:53:30 AM

This just goes to show that some of us here in this forum don’t actuall Practice what we teach or the advice we give to others we don’t follow them.

Quote from: kotajikikox on November 28, 2023, 02:35:56 AM

also if you will stop gambling from this moment and will find a fit Job , for sure you will pay that debt for shorter time just focus mate.

I highly doubt that the Op would be able to do that, since he confirmed that he’s struggling with gambling addiction, so it would be hard for him to just go on without gambling. He’ll most likely feel the urge to just log into his account and deposit a few dollars to gamble with.

Yeah that's how addiction works, you wouldn't know what's going on until you've lost a huge amount, that's when you eventually realize you could have just walked away.

That's why I always advice people struggling with addiction to get their funds out of their reach, you could look for a trusted person to help you manage your funds during that time. No matter how addicted you are or how much you get the urge to deposit to your account and gamble, if you don't have any money to deposit then you'll definitely look for something else to do. The OP could get someone to take charge of his funds and reach a formal agreement with the person, that on no account should the person release funds to him, except of course the reason is good enough and he should provide a god proof. Else he can't get the money, if this goes on for a few months, you'll definitely see yourself getting rid of the addiction.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 12, 2023, 03:10:01 PM

Quote from: Shishir99 on December 09, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

Quote from: maydna on December 08, 2023, 10:42:58 AM

When someone intends to borrow money from other people to gamble, it is already a sign that he is already addicted to gambling and should be stopped as soon as possible before he loses that money in gambling. But @OP has already lost so much money that it's hard to get it all back anytime soon. This is a lesson for him not to do it again, and hopefully, he will stop gambling after this bad experience and focus more on making money so he can get his money back. He was already stuck on that loan, and he really needed to stay away from gambling so as not to be tempted by gambling again. This is not easy because he is already familiar with gambling, but with a strong will, he can definitely do it.

Today, I just saw a Facebook post from a group, even though I am not a member of that group, the post was suggested to me. The person posted a few screenshots where he lost around $700 and he says he lost around $1000 by gamle which he stolen from his wife's parents house. Now he posted this in a Facebook group and asking for help. He want another $100 loan from random people on the internet and he claims he will recover that money anyhow. I was just thinking how stupid a person could be. I know that he already knew no one give him a penny without knowing him. But he still posted this. Gambling destroying people's lives which you can see If you check social media.

It is obvious that person is addicted, when a person has gambled so much they lost everything and now they are stealing and begging for more money to keep their addiction going, it is clear that person does not have the ability to stop on their own and they will do whatever it takes to gamble, and unfortunately most of the time the only thing that can stop them is for them to get arrested, as it is impossible for a family member or friend to supervise them every single hour of every single day and see they do not get in trouble due to their urge to gamble.

Basically I think it's quite easy to find out whether someone is addicted or not or even not at all, you can see from the changes in their standard of living, as you said they run out of everything and that alone I think can be an indication that the person is really addicted as well as a victim of the bad effects of addiction. There are people who are able to realize when they have experienced a lot of loss and there are also those who are increasingly crazy and aggressive, as you discussed that they even act out of control such as stealing or committing other crimes such as robbery, I think it is very likely to be done by people who have entered the addiction phase.

There is nothing else they think about except gambling all the time and if they run out of money then they will look for many ways such as making loans as an alternative that can help them or even stealing as I said above, they are very reckless and do not think about the bad effects of what they have done. Honestly, lately I have seen a lot of news about theft and embezzlement of money, when interrogated it turns out that it is true that they are one of the gamblers who have been addicted, very worrying.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on December 09, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

Quote from: maydna on December 08, 2023, 10:42:58 AM

When someone intends to borrow money from other people to gamble, it is already a sign that he is already addicted to gambling and should be stopped as soon as possible before he loses that money in gambling. But @OP has already lost so much money that it's hard to get it all back anytime soon. This is a lesson for him not to do it again, and hopefully, he will stop gambling after this bad experience and focus more on making money so he can get his money back. He was already stuck on that loan, and he really needed to stay away from gambling so as not to be tempted by gambling again. This is not easy because he is already familiar with gambling, but with a strong will, he can definitely do it.

Today, I just saw a Facebook post from a group, even though I am not a member of that group, the post was suggested to me. The person posted a few screenshots where he lost around $700 and he says he lost around $1000 by gamle which he stolen from his wife's parents house. Now he posted this in a Facebook group and asking for help. He want another $100 loan from random people on the internet and he claims he will recover that money anyhow. I was just thinking how stupid a person could be. I know that he already knew no one give him a penny without knowing him. But he still posted this. Gambling destroying people's lives which you can see If you check social media.

It is obvious that person is addicted, when a person has gambled so much they lost everything and now they are stealing and begging for more money to keep their addiction going, it is clear that person does not have the ability to stop on their own and they will do whatever it takes to gamble, and unfortunately most of the time the only thing that can stop them is for them to get arrested, as it is impossible for a family member or friend to supervise them every single hour of every single day and see they do not get in trouble due to their urge to gamble.

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Quote from: Z_MBFM on November 28, 2023, 02:02:35 AM

so beware of gambling

Using loans to gamble is the same as causing problems in your next life. Of course, every gambling player must adhere to this principle, don't force yourself too hard to gamble with borrowed money, if you don't have money then you have to be patient when you have new money to gamble with. Never mind gambling, we do not recommend investing with borrowed money. By using borrowed money we will experience double the loss, lose at gambling but still have to pay the debt and interest.

However, there are also people who have too much debt, the debt is not due to gambling. But if he wants to pay off his debts by gambling, this should also be avoided. Cases like this often occur among the lower middle class, they have debts but want to pay them off by gambling in the hope of being able to pay off the debts if they win. There are also debts resulting from gambling, now he wants to pay off his debts but continues to gamble, this should also be avoided. Every gambler must know his limits and must always remember that gambling has a tremendous impact, many people feel destroyed in all aspects of their physiology, character and even life. Therefore, be wise in making decisions when gambling.

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Quote from: Quidat on December 10, 2023, 05:59:14 PM

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Quote from: Unbunplease on December 09, 2023, 10:23:18 AM

When a person gambles with his own money, he tries to take into account the risks and somehow control them. When a person gambles with borrowed money (especially if he has the opportunity to take rather large loans), he often begins to behave recklessly and spend money without an account (this is the specific nature of most people).

Isn't borrowing money to gamble with it the most reckless move anyway? Even if that person were to behave rational with that borrowed money and stick to bankroll management rules and so on, it is still a reckless move as luck can turn against you anytime. You could make the wisest decisions ever and yet lose it all on a bad day. Borrowing it hoping to flip it and pay back immediately while keeping some to be able to continue gambling is doomed to fail in my opinion and I agree that recklessness might take over once some bad moves lead to some of the money be lost. It's the time when people tend to do some all-or-nothing moves because they see no other choice.

Totally wreckless and totally that a huge mess up in your entire life if you do make out such decisions such as this.Taking up a loan for business then it would be considerable and something would be worth but for gambling? You are just basically doing suicide with your finances knowing on how risky gambling is then there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself get safe when it comes to financial devastation. Gambling with loan money is never been that ideal because you would really be just making those problems on which it shouldnt really be supposed to be happening if you do really just that make yourself that responsible then there would be no problem but if not then you would really be having that kind of headache and huge regrets in the end of the line.

I think it also paves the way into much bigger problems if it works out. Let's assume that someone is willing to take a loan for gambling, perhaps $500 and that person successfully doubles the money playing roulette, pays back the $500 and keeps $500 for himself. Now he uses the winnings and loses them, back to his first position with zero money in the pocket. Now what is that person most likely going to do? I think he will most likely try to take out a loan again because it worked smoothly for him without anyone harmed. But what happens if now the $500 are lost immediately. My guess would be that the person still has this feeling of success in his mind from the first try and that it is quite possible more money will be borrowed from someone else to make up for everything. That is when things can get worse and worse.

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Quote from: letteredhub on December 08, 2023, 05:39:22 PM

Taking loan to use it for gambling should be viewed as a last option as it's not an option in any sense. Many people have losed their lives due to how they took loan of huge amount to gambling in the hope's that they will win and return the loan money ASAP and keep the benefits win but it turned our bad and when they realized that by all available means possible they can't afford paying back the loan the next thought we commiting suicide to escape the shame. It's something that's happening and it's not sweet to the ear when we hear about these things.

I never make it as an option, nor for the last option. I think gambling with the loan money is a big mistake. We always gamble in a safe way, that's why we only gamble with our extra money. I only look for fun in gambling, the prizes will be the bonus to get. I never plan a target to win a specific prize in gambling because I think it sounds too risky.

There are already many cases that lead people to experience bad story in life because of loan money in gambling. I think we must avoid it because it is already proven to bring negative impacts. A loan money is also not necessary because gambling shouldn't be our main activity in life. We only gamble in a spare time. So why we must be so serious to get a loan money? Huh

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Quote from: shogun47 on December 10, 2023, 05:41:34 PM

Quote from: Unbunplease on December 09, 2023, 10:23:18 AM

When a person gambles with his own money, he tries to take into account the risks and somehow control them. When a person gambles with borrowed money (especially if he has the opportunity to take rather large loans), he often begins to behave recklessly and spend money without an account (this is the specific nature of most people).

Isn't borrowing money to gamble with it the most reckless move anyway? Even if that person were to behave rational with that borrowed money and stick to bankroll management rules and so on, it is still a reckless move as luck can turn against you anytime. You could make the wisest decisions ever and yet lose it all on a bad day. Borrowing it hoping to flip it and pay back immediately while keeping some to be able to continue gambling is doomed to fail in my opinion and I agree that recklessness might take over once some bad moves lead to some of the money be lost. It's the time when people tend to do some all-or-nothing moves because they see no other choice.

Totally wreckless and totally that a huge mess up in your entire life if you do make out such decisions such as this.Taking up a loan for business then it would be considerable and something would be worth but for gambling? You are just basically doing suicide with your finances knowing on how risky gambling is then there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself get safe when it comes to financial devastation. Gambling with loan money is never been that ideal because you would really be just making those problems on which it shouldnt really be supposed to be happening if you do really just that make yourself that responsible then there would be no problem but if not then you would really be having that kind of headache and huge regrets in the end of the line.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on December 09, 2023, 10:23:18 AM

When a person gambles with his own money, he tries to take into account the risks and somehow control them. When a person gambles with borrowed money (especially if he has the opportunity to take rather large loans), he often begins to behave recklessly and spend money without an account (this is the specific nature of most people).

Isn't borrowing money to gamble with it the most reckless move anyway? Even if that person were to behave rational with that borrowed money and stick to bankroll management rules and so on, it is still a reckless move as luck can turn against you anytime. You could make the wisest decisions ever and yet lose it all on a bad day. Borrowing it hoping to flip it and pay back immediately while keeping some to be able to continue gambling is doomed to fail in my opinion and I agree that recklessness might take over once some bad moves lead to some of the money be lost. It's the time when people tend to do some all-or-nothing moves because they see no other choice.

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