Do real traders care about bear & bull market? - page 6.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

"Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

That trader must have a lot of money and not afraid to lose because he did not stop trading during this bear season. I can't say it is correct and also wrong but what's stopping other traders from trading during this season is the market uncertainty. They just want to protect their capital because they can't afford to lose more.

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I've stopped trading for now and converted all my crypto to stablecoins. Many people says we have not hit the bottom yet and market sentiment is still bearish.

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Quote from: blockman on June 22, 2022, 06:00:43 PM

Day traders or not, we all end up being a trader but I agree with what he said that there's always the opportunity whether the market is bearish or bulls.
I think it's just all about pride in what he said when he mentioned "real traders". And there's nothing wrong calling all of those brave traders to be real and have been trading no matter what the season is.

I'm also uncertain to see real traders making a good profit during the bear season. Well, the volatility of the market gives them a chance to earn some but quite hard when we just only see more on dump compared to pump. But I don't think their pride pushes them to continue doing this as what I see is that they know somehow that there is a chance. They are not looking at the negative side or the possible losses but rather thinking negatively despite the inevitable market situation.

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Day traders or not, we all end up being a trader but I agree with what he said that there's always the opportunity whether the market is bearish or bulls.
I think it's just all about pride in what he said when he mentioned "real traders". And there's nothing wrong calling all of those brave traders to be real and have been trading no matter what the season is.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.

While I agree that traders can do their jobs whether the market is going up or down, at the same time I think there are market conditions which should not be traded and it is better to stay on the sidelines during that period.

As an analogy think about driving a car, cars are now very versatile and they can move at many different terrains and in many different weather conditions, and yet there are terrains and weather conditions in which driving is very dangerous and if possible we should avoid it, and I think the markets are similar, as the risk you are taking is too high compared to the profits you can get if you trade under some conditions which very adverse to trading.

Agreed with that crypto trader which says real traders don't quit because they always understand how to go with the market.
However, that does mean traders that quit trading in this bear market don't have confidence in their abilities as ven7net stated because it's called knowing your limit and I once write from someone on this forum who make a statement that consciousness is not foolishness.

What I understand you guys to understand is that crypto traders do care about bear and bull markets because what they want is profit. Meanwhile, what most traders do in this current market is long or make use of bots.

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This are very critical and important seasons in the crypto world. They are both opportunities in their own way so every trader, be it experienced or newbie much pay attention to which season is present at all times. This would enable them to strategize properly to make more profits and avoid too much loss because profit and loss is part of the market

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on June 22, 2022, 04:05:53 AM

Their is no particular time for trading, trading can be done at any time whether the market is bearish or bullish and profit can still be made . Trading when the market is bearish can be complicated to some beginners who are not good enough. A trader who is well experienced can trade even in the bearish season and make better profit. Trading during the bearish season is all about having good trading skill and having some trading experience.

If you are a trader then you should really be that versatile on whatever market conditions that you might able to experience on but we know that there different types of traders which means that there's a specific event or market condition on which a specific trading method do works and do not that's why we do really see different outcomes on different decisions that had been made which is situational.

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Quote from: ven7net on June 22, 2022, 05:28:25 AM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.

While I agree that traders can do their jobs whether the market is going up or down, at the same time I think there are market conditions which should not be traded and it is better to stay on the sidelines during that period.

As an analogy think about driving a car, cars are now very versatile and they can move at many different terrains and in many different weather conditions, and yet there are terrains and weather conditions in which driving is very dangerous and if possible we should avoid it, and I think the markets are similar, as the risk you are taking is too high compared to the profits you can get if you trade under some conditions which very adverse to trading.

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Quote from: ven7net on June 22, 2022, 05:28:25 AM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

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I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.

Of course, they put their money at risk doing trading as they see a bigger chance to make a profit from it. Traders will remain in trading as it was their life. They'll somehow start their own business or even get employed but they choose a life like this because they are comfortable and much more familiar. Of course, I'll do the same if that happens to me and I choose the life that makes me happy despite the losses and hard times.

And besides, not all are meant to trade and yes, real traders are somewhat special having such kind of attitude and skills.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.

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As matter of fact one should definitely care about the market status which are either bearish or bullish. That’s what makes up the whole trade cycle. Bear means heavy selling but at the same time someone buying to fulfil that cheap trade while on the other hand someone is still buying when the whole market is in bullish and costly.

If we don’t track all these happenings then there is no way we are able to safely enter into the market at all. Markets reacts to traders and traders react to market. That’s the simplest explanation for this question.

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Their is no particular time for trading, trading can be done at any time whether the market is bearish or bullish and profit can still be made . Trading when the market is bearish can be complicated to some beginners who are not good enough. A trader who is well experienced can trade even in the bearish season and make better profit. Trading during the bearish season is all about having good trading skill and having some trading experience.

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Quote from: rozak on June 22, 2022, 12:57:34 AM

Quote from: Kimonoe on June 21, 2022, 11:47:15 PM

The bear market is a major trend for now, but that doesn't mean we don't have the opportunity to buy, we can take advantage of a bounce or correction in an area that has been determined by a trader, so that we can make a profit, but for that we can't be separated from practice and experience in trading. read the future direction of the market. therefore in any season there is actually a chance to make a profit

such a skill only merchants with great courage dared to do. Trading in a bear market is very risky. because no one knows the short-term potential of the asset being traded.

if trading in such a manner is done by a reckless novice trading in bear season, it will surely trap him in a trade that will even force the trader to cut loss.

It would be very risky indeed for newbie traders to trade but that doesn't mean they can't do anything,
at a time when this bear market might be a good time to learn and understand more about the crypto market,
other than that it's better to take advantage of this moment to buy coins and hold them until the market is bull

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I'm sure the trader you meet are active in the spot market, and that's only natural because they only benefit from uptrend prices. Especially if their analysis says that the bearih will last long enough.

But if he is active on leveraged trading, any market situation will not stop him just for the reason that it is hard to make a profit.

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Quote from: Kimonoe on June 21, 2022, 11:47:15 PM

The bear market is a major trend for now, but that doesn't mean we don't have the opportunity to buy, we can take advantage of a bounce or correction in an area that has been determined by a trader, so that we can make a profit, but for that we can't be separated from practice and experience in trading. read the future direction of the market. therefore in any season there is actually a chance to make a profit

such a skill only merchants with great courage dared to do. Trading in a bear market is very risky. because no one knows the short-term potential of the asset being traded.

if trading in such a manner is done by a reckless novice trading in bear season, it will surely trap him in a trade that will even force the trader to cut loss.

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Quote from: doomloop on June 21, 2022, 10:47:25 AM

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Those who stop are maybe too stressed out seeing this kind of market so they take a break for good. They can be composed of real and fake traders. As far as I know the phrase "playing it safe" doesn't totally mean that we will stop doing an act but it just means that we will continue doing the act but we must be extra careful this time.

Safe means adjusting the state of the market at that time. All traders certainly take advantage of the bull or bear.' That's for sure, they're taking advantage of that market movement. If there wasn't that from where would they benefit?
This instability is what allows traders to enter or leave the market. So they should really care about price increases or decreases. Because basically all traders have the goal of making a profit. I think there are no traders who just buy continuously, they are certainly waiting for when is the right time to buy and sell. All of that is adjusted when the market is bull or bear.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 21, 2022, 05:13:54 PM

Quote from: abel1337 on June 21, 2022, 02:13:47 PM

In reality, Traders always make fortune during bullish market and making their survival on a bearish market. This is the reason why I think traders care about the market situation. Traders could still profit even we are in a bear market. Remember that traders always follow market trends, This way traders can enrich their winning chance on their trades. There are many trading techniques that can make traders win on a bear season like this. I still like doing scalping, It still makes me profitable even on this kind of market season we have.

That is why I really appreciate how these traders worked despite the market situation and that is to say that trading is not an easy job. But somehow, these traders had made their way to survive from the hard situation making just a few bucks every day (or sometimes losing). But I guess they never complain about it but rather make themselves adapt to every situation and still be consistent with their doings. Real traders will never quit as long as there is a chance, that's their mindset.

The bear market is a major trend for now, but that doesn't mean we don't have the opportunity to buy, we can take advantage of a bounce or correction in an area that has been determined by a trader, so that we can make a profit, but for that we can't be separated from practice and experience in trading. read the future direction of the market. therefore in any season there is actually a chance to make a profit

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Do you consider this trader correct?

maybe he is right, because of course he already has a strategy that can be implemented in any market conditions, because keep in mind that cycles like this almost always occur in the crypto market and if traders are careful in observing the market it is very possible for traders to keep trading because it can be seen from trading volume in crypto that remains high means there are still traders who trade even though the market is bearish, but maybe the result bit difference.

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

Long term is my strategy, so not active like day traders

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Do you consider this trader correct?

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with what he said.
A trader, moreover day traders, will always trade every day in order to take profits by utilizing every up and down price of the coins that they are trading. That is why they need certain analyses of the charts and indicators. I know that it may not be all of them, but most traders may do the same.
Many traders also trade in the future market or with leverage, so they can utilize the up and down by positioning Long or Short position.
This is coruse, not easy, very risky, yes exactly. But, this is what a trader commonly does in order to take profits and earn money in every condition. For, not all people are able to do long-term holding. Some prefer to trade daily to earn profits.
is there any guarantee to always make a profit?
of course not.
But, commonly a trader will know what to do when to do it, and how the ways to make higher profits than its losses. In one day, a trader may experience both losses and profits. This is very common to them.
However, if we are not good traders, newbies, or not ready with the market changes, it is better to play safe and do what we are able to do.

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Quote from: abel1337 on June 21, 2022, 02:13:47 PM

In reality, Traders always make fortune during bullish market and making their survival on a bearish market. This is the reason why I think traders care about the market situation. Traders could still profit even we are in a bear market. Remember that traders always follow market trends, This way traders can enrich their winning chance on their trades. There are many trading techniques that can make traders win on a bear season like this. I still like doing scalping, It still makes me profitable even on this kind of market season we have.

That is why I really appreciate how these traders worked despite the market situation and that is to say that trading is not an easy job. But somehow, these traders had made their way to survive from the hard situation making just a few bucks every day (or sometimes losing). But I guess they never complain about it but rather make themselves adapt to every situation and still be consistent with their doings. Real traders will never quit as long as there is a chance, that's their mindset.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

In reality, Traders always make fortune during bullish market and making their survival on a bearish market. This is the reason why I think traders care about the market situation. Traders could still profit even we are in a bear market. Remember that traders always follow market trends, This way traders can enrich their winning chance on their trades. There are many trading techniques that can make traders win on a bear season like this. I still like doing scalping, It still makes me profitable even on this kind of market season we have.

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