Do real traders care about bear & bull market? - page 8.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe.

This only proves that the trader has enough money and he can afford to lose.
Many of the traders, who actually care for their money are playing safe in this bear market.
Entire market is red due to Bitcoin’s current price.
I will also advise all the fellow traders to avoid trading as much as they can.
Only Bitcoins are the real hope at this point.
There is great chances that Bitcoins will overcome the bear market soon.
So it would be wise to invest in Bitcoins and wait for results.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Do you consider this trader correct?

I my opinion of course , I did not find any wrong things in the words of the trader. At this time you will find two types of traders-
-There will a long term traders who is using this dip to trade and hold.I think this is the best time for them
-On the other hand, short-term traders are doing day trading by analyzing the candles

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-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

Yes , if I say about me , I am doing short-term trading. And my strategy is-
-Don't be greedy.
-Control in Emotions.
-And also it cannot be assumed that every day will be profitable

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whether or not a trader is right or not doing trading activities during a bull market, I think it depends on the trader himself. What I experienced, of course, is that the market has a trend on a certain time frame. for example, if we use H4, the trend will be seen there, so we can trade on the time frame below it, such as H1, and we will find a support area to buy, and of course this must be tight with a real target on H1, so on the market movement of course there will be price corrections, and price bounces that can be exploited

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He is absolutely correct, despite the market being already in bearish mode, the volatility is still present, so we can still trade and make a profit if we are good at predicting the price movement. These kinds of people who are profitable regardless of the market situation are skillful traders, they learn from their experience and they always see an opportunity in any market situation.

Learn from your friend, he knows what he is doing because he is confident he will still succeed.

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I think a fine point remains that pro traders treat these as just numbers and deal with it that way. Instead of having to think over it, they rather trade based on the numbers and not with the emotions.

For them a bear market is a time to buy and spend the liquid cash for the investment, while the bull market is the time to sell and cover a profit to get back the liquid cash and the difference.

I have myself seen that keeping this mentality saves you from a lot of trouble of anxiety that happens with the market and it makes you a more efficient trader able to take decisions that dont nag you in the course of the market.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Do you consider this trader correct?

I'm still trading myself. I just changed my spot trading to futures trading. in any market conditions, we can still benefit from futures trading. maybe that's what your trading friends do too.

but to be honest it is indeed risky. it would be safer to monitor the market first before finally deciding to enter again or have to wait for a better moment.

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Trade makes a profit with fluctuation. For example, with a bearish market situation, you can make a good profit if you sold Bitcoin about 3 months ago at a price of 48k and bought today at a price of 18k. The same scenario applies to me a month ago when the price was about 30k.

The golden rule is to set a clear vision and plan that is formulated in a strategy and who solves it does not matter how the market moves, but how to make a profit with this strategy, which is something that requires experience and skill, which may not be in the interest of most traders.

In general, trading requires intelligence and skill, and the more experience you have, the more you can earn.

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Let's say, supposing traders where to pay more concern to the bearish market session and stop trading, what would then become of the market?

Not like I expect you to answer that but, trading is meant to go both sessions and I don't think traders stops trading during the bearish market sessions. The bearish market has its own opportunities too and those with the know how, knows just how to exploit it.

Although you can tell that its always very difficult to continue trading in this season, given the kind of emotion that develops and one has to be really careful of the position one choses with the direction or the market not being clear at any point.

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Quote from: Adbitco on June 19, 2022, 02:58:20 AM

I can say is only a skillful trader can make out something from this market, few days ago I tried to know if I can do it but sincerely I was drastically drained up is not easy to cope up with bear all I can do is just to buy at dip maybe after it's recovery I make back my profits which I have lost while trading.

It seems that is indeed what we can do in this bear market condition,
moreover Bitcoin is currently down to the price of $18k and we must take advantage of this moment by buying it gradually,
it's only a matter of time to see Bitcoin recover so no need to worry

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I can say is only a skillful trader can make out something from this market, few days ago I tried to know if I can do it but sincerely I was drastically drained up is not easy to cope up with bear all I can do is just to buy at dip maybe after it's recovery I make back my profits which I have lost while trading.

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Quote from: blue Snow on June 18, 2022, 09:48:38 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I'm not sure he not lying because the price today is very unsafe for trading. I know out there has a professional trader who can make money in dip but it's not much because we know playing short is very dangerous, The trader must know the moving of the chart and can guess exactly when he makes deciding in a second. I have friends still trading today by playing arbitrate and he still gets profit even though is not much of a bullish market.

Indeed, not all traders can make a profit in times of market conditions like this,
difficult and very risky, of course, besides that the decisions we make will greatly affect the trading results,
your friends are certainly already proficient in conditions like this and it takes a lot of experience

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

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"Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive"
-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

Correct for me, I know some traders who can prove this, I am updated on their trading life during the bear market and bull markets.
Some also are owning when the bear market, while some others in the bull market.

It doesn't mean once it is a bear market, you cannot make profits, there are short positions or long positions with leverage that can help you.

If you are just a spot trader and long position trader, then bear market is not suit for you.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I'm not sure he not lying because the price today is very unsafe for trading. I know out there has a professional trader who can make money in dip but it's not much because we know playing short is very dangerous, The trader must know the moving of the chart and can guess exactly when he makes deciding in a second. I have friends still trading today by playing arbitrate and he still gets profit even though is not much of a bullish market.

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Day trading is not easy you need to wait for an opportunity to buy at a low price and sell a little profit when the price rises a bit.
Just like like today as sample image below.

If you bought BTC at around $17k and then sold it at around $19k you already made around 9% to 10% but the problem it is not worth it if you only have a small investment in trading you can only notice your profit if you have big amount of funds in your portfolio. And you should be ready for the price drop and set a stop limit before you lose more profit.

The only difference between a bear and bull market is that you can only get a small profit in a bear market unlike in a bull market you can make more profit and you do not worry about price drops because you HODL and wait for another price rise to cover loses.

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For me, Real Traders cares about both markets because at times, Real traders expect bottom to be where bottom isn't suppose to be and it affects there trade. Also vise versa.
So. Even real Traders can be fooled with any kind of market.
Be it Bear or Bull

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on June 18, 2022, 04:32:50 PM

A real trader will keep doing a trade despite the market situation. But for us casual traders will choose not to continue due to the higher risk and inevitable losses that we possibly get. Honestly, there is always a way to make trading successful during the bear season it is just how these expert traders see it. Of course, they find out nothing, they have no reason also to continue trading but fortunately, they have and their life goes on while the others are quitting and holding. Things that we don't need to dig more, that were their secret and they never tell it.

If you know how to strategize to get your profits, bear or bull market, it doesn't really matter to you.
Because the up and down movement, will give you the chance to make profits.
The simple rule of trading - buy low, sell high, is your guide here. But not all know how to implement this strategy.
Traders know where to attack the market. They won't wait for bull season to get their hands on the market.

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Trading is a two way thing so at a point the market will be selling at another point it will buy maybe for short time depending on the trend and so now is bear and if you are able to catch a sell then you can ride it all through, this is the aspect that a trader can make very good profit. The difference between the trends is that at a point, the market will sell for a long time and at another time it will buy short which is the correction of a bear time. For traders you can make profit even in bear season.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

~snip~
-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

^Yes, your friend is correct.
You can apply different strategies per every season that comes even if that is bull market or bear market you can apply any strategy. Remember that strategy is only a tool that you can use to predict the market price.
For now since the market has declined massively, you can do spot trading which is moat likely traders use when bear market comes.

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A real trader will keep doing a trade despite the market situation. But for us casual traders will choose not to continue due to the higher risk and inevitable losses that we possibly get. Honestly, there is always a way to make trading successful during the bear season it is just how these expert traders see it. Of course, they find out nothing, they have no reason also to continue trading but fortunately, they have and their life goes on while the others are quitting and holding. Things that we don't need to dig more, that were their secret and they never tell it.

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Experienced trader will always find a way to make money on every trend, this is why knowledge is very important because it can give you so much confidence that can generate money for you. There’s always a buyer and seller in this market and that’s why trader will always have the opportunity to make money. Short term trader are more active during this volatile trend, this is a great opportunity for them.

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