Topic: Do we have an impact? - page 3. (Read 572 times)
I believe that the entire process in the cryptocurrency market is managed by whales. The drop in the price of bitcoin, it seems to me, is caused by the desire of whales to buy bitcoins at low prices. We need to learn to survive in these conditions.
I dont think so. this forum is still very usefull. And i am sure so many whales also checking what is going on here. Because most of the old/new basic announcement for projects are still here. It is easy to reach them here.
The crypto money market can be affected by many things. values are very variable. your investment will be huge and your team will be crowded to make an impact.
I agree with you 100% but that's because you missed my point (so did a lot of others). I'm not claiming that this forum as a whole doesn't have an impact. The impact is huge. It is in fact one of the most influential fora I have ever witnessed (if not the). But that's not my point. My point is the impact on prices are not made by the 'this community is great' or 'devs really work hard' kind of random BS people post (spread out in 80 words in order to be ok with the bounty manager). Prices are made by whales.
I've been here for a while indeed. Long enough to know that there are people here who don't invest 1-2 eth in an ico but 1000. Let's say the people behind an ico is one of these whales. Without even touching the 20k eth they got from the ico (which are monitored obviously), they use their big pockets in order to boost an ico. All of a sudden it's x3-x100, then they sell, it goes down, and up and down. We all know these charts (go look at any exchange). Pure manipulation. And my point is that it isn't always (!) new development, new exchanges, news updates or whatever everybody likes to fill pages and pages with that causes the ups and downs, it's the whales. THEY decide.
To be clear with y'all: I'm fine with that! It's an interesting field/world but please look at it from an outsiders/regular perspective: it's not normal that just an idea gets 50million dollars upfront, goes to the market and is even valued and bought more. It's not normal that something goes +1000% in a week and the week after -80%. And the posting here may have some impact, the marketing (armies) behind it even some more. But the real impact is the manipulation, let's be clear about that.
I've been here for a while indeed. Long enough to know that there are people here who don't invest 1-2 eth in an ico but 1000. Let's say the people behind an ico is one of these whales. Without even touching the 20k eth they got from the ico (which are monitored obviously), they use their big pockets in order to boost an ico. All of a sudden it's x3-x100, then they sell, it goes down, and up and down. We all know these charts (go look at any exchange). Pure manipulation. And my point is that it isn't always (!) new development, new exchanges, news updates or whatever everybody likes to fill pages and pages with that causes the ups and downs, it's the whales. THEY decide.
To be clear with y'all: I'm fine with that! It's an interesting field/world but please look at it from an outsiders/regular perspective: it's not normal that just an idea gets 50million dollars upfront, goes to the market and is even valued and bought more. It's not normal that something goes +1000% in a week and the week after -80%. And the posting here may have some impact, the marketing (armies) behind it even some more. But the real impact is the manipulation, let's be clear about that.
Either you post here or you don't anyways you don't have any impact on the price right. so what is the point of discussing this honestly?
What do you suggest people should do?
also these whales are still quite small, just wait till the institutional investors start coming in and run those whales dry.
What about such forums then... should we just pack up and leave or keep posting and be active?
I suggest people who post here in masses (due to bounties, who've got out of hand compared to 2-3 years ago) stop thinking that it is them (collectively) who control the prices. It's not. It's not because there are 100 threads about eth is the best coin with 100's of replies all screaming 'hell yeah! we'll be rich! 2k coming next feb!' that that will happen. If a bunch of whales decide to sell eth to 300, then THAT will happen despite all the posting here. That is my point. Nevertheless, the forum IS an interesting place and the 'ground floor' (or the lobby as you please) for the bitcoin/altcoin community. I just think that the masses are mislead by the conviction that you can 'smell' the way things will go in the future by reading all these shilling posts.
I agree with you on the institutional investors. And no, we shouldn't leave. But a little less amount of (bounty-driven) 'coin x is the shit!' and 'eth to the moon!' will do this forum good. But that matter has been discussed over and over without much results. Just wait until (if!) most alts recover and btc reaches ath, then the influx driven by a restored faith in crypto will make this forum go nuts when it comes to users posting things and earning bounties which outreach a lot of monthly wages in most underdevelopped countries.
You are absolutely right: while the stock market is extremely fragmented, the cryptomarket is controlled by a small group of whales that manipulate the market as they please.
All can we do - as little fishes - is to try to understand in which direction they will push the market, and to try to make our little profit.
All can we do - as little fishes - is to try to understand in which direction they will push the market, and to try to make our little profit.
I wonder. 
It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
Hello! Yes we doing impact to our wallets :DThis forum is good to teach about crypto how it works and teach more things how to earn crypto in more ways!The forum help me very to understand,and earn tokens in bounty u cant never know from little bounty can earn in longterm nice house if ur lucky..
Most of the whales you are talking about all began in here and still most people who want to know more about bitcoin and crypto starts here. There are lots of channels out there but I think this is still the best place to start. We may not have an impact on the price directly, but those who have impact still reads here about upcoming projects and everything.
I wonder. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
Tell me, how many people do you think to have over >100BTC of >1000BTC? I can tell you that there are plenty of people hold >10BTC and right now, at bitcointalk looking to invest their BTC to some altcoins. Ten of 10BTC = one 100BTC, hundreds of 10BTC = one 1000BTC and so bitcointalk did have an impact to market, don't underestimate. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop. I wonder. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
That's true ,compared to reddit any FUD or shilling here is useless . People who join this forum are either looking to get some experience and learn about cryptocurrencies or simply bounty hunters who are trying to make some money . Real investors will not follow the forum for the news there are already too many outlets out there that are publishing crypto news ,besides all the threads here seem to be from newbies who have no idea what they are talking about . So It's hard to believe any big holder would listen to any news from this forum. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
This forum wasn`t created for manipulation with prices. And everyone needs this forum because almost every new potentially good project creates a thread here.
I think there are some whales that can be said quite big here. This is a great forum to keep up with developments and compared with reddit, less shilling here lol. You know about a very good project like Polymath here and that's why people keep following this forum.
I think if FUD is strong and have many bitcoin then it's better than thousend weakly people. Ofcourse it's possible if he interested in bitcoin promotion.
I agree with you 100% but that's because you missed my point (so did a lot of others). I'm not claiming that this forum as a whole doesn't have an impact. The impact is huge. It is in fact one of the most influential fora I have ever witnessed (if not the). But that's not my point. My point is the impact on prices are not made by the 'this community is great' or 'devs really work hard' kind of random BS people post (spread out in 80 words in order to be ok with the bounty manager). Prices are made by whales.
I've been here for a while indeed. Long enough to know that there are people here who don't invest 1-2 eth in an ico but 1000. Let's say the people behind an ico is one of these whales. Without even touching the 20k eth they got from the ico (which are monitored obviously), they use their big pockets in order to boost an ico. All of a sudden it's x3-x100, then they sell, it goes down, and up and down. We all know these charts (go look at any exchange). Pure manipulation. And my point is that it isn't always (!) new development, new exchanges, news updates or whatever everybody likes to fill pages and pages with that causes the ups and downs, it's the whales. THEY decide.
To be clear with y'all: I'm fine with that! It's an interesting field/world but please look at it from an outsiders/regular perspective: it's not normal that just an idea gets 50million dollars upfront, goes to the market and is even valued and bought more. It's not normal that something goes +1000% in a week and the week after -80%. And the posting here may have some impact, the marketing (armies) behind it even some more. But the real impact is the manipulation, let's be clear about that.
I've been here for a while indeed. Long enough to know that there are people here who don't invest 1-2 eth in an ico but 1000. Let's say the people behind an ico is one of these whales. Without even touching the 20k eth they got from the ico (which are monitored obviously), they use their big pockets in order to boost an ico. All of a sudden it's x3-x100, then they sell, it goes down, and up and down. We all know these charts (go look at any exchange). Pure manipulation. And my point is that it isn't always (!) new development, new exchanges, news updates or whatever everybody likes to fill pages and pages with that causes the ups and downs, it's the whales. THEY decide.
To be clear with y'all: I'm fine with that! It's an interesting field/world but please look at it from an outsiders/regular perspective: it's not normal that just an idea gets 50million dollars upfront, goes to the market and is even valued and bought more. It's not normal that something goes +1000% in a week and the week after -80%. And the posting here may have some impact, the marketing (armies) behind it even some more. But the real impact is the manipulation, let's be clear about that.
Either you post here or you don't anyways you don't have any impact on the price right. so what is the point of discussing this honestly?
What do you suggest people should do?
also these whales are still quite small, just wait till the institutional investors start coming in and run those whales dry.
What about such forums then... should we just pack up and leave or keep posting and be active?
I wonder. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop. I like your way of thoughts, especially about whales with >100 and >1000 BTC. But still I believe that there are a few of this kind of users are at the forum anyway. Nevertheless, try to imagine the amount of small fish. I guess we have a pretty good impact on the market, but only during whales are inactive.
Even some people dont buy bitcoin, they just earning through bounties, they have big impact in the price of bitcoin. Because of they doing, they largely promoted bitcoin, because of that many people will be attracted that will result to price increase.
The real manipulators are:
big whales,
politicians,
media.
Big whales pouring much money, politicians making announcements on banning cryptocurrencies, media spreading all that and making the noise. This is how it is!
big whales,
politicians,
media.
Big whales pouring much money, politicians making announcements on banning cryptocurrencies, media spreading all that and making the noise. This is how it is!
Nice said. You forgot to mention the banks. Who believes the fairy tale that the banks are real opponents of the Cryptoszene, is wrong. They are big players in this game.
If you look at the stats of many ICOs, which is very easy given the blockchain register, you will find out that many of them just rely on the small investors. It is not necessary to go after the whales, nor particularly productive.
usually, the more your treasures, the more your needs. the more money you make, then even as small as the money that falls on the road, we must take note and we take. I think it's still like that, people who are a lot of coin, may be looking for a 2x more coin than they have .certainly desire and satisfaction that there is no limit
I wonder. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
Yes, however our impact is limited for the simple fact we are disorganized, a whale does not need to consult anyone to move a huge amount of coins and if that whale has an alliance with other whales then the change in the market is even more abrupt, we cannot move that amount of coins even if we as a group have them since we have different opinions about what to do, besides such maneuvers are probably illegal and resemble too much pump and dump groups, which are scams. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop. 
No doubt we are being manipulated by whales but don't settle that's just because of it you will lose sime confidence to have some btc even just on some bounties. Whales never settle too to have some coins so as we do, let's just accept the fact that they are lucky ones in terms of it.
I wonder. It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.
It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop. First of all, you cannot guarantee that there are no big whales posting here on this forum which do bounties or just want some answers to their questions and to socialize with like minded people. Judging by your rank, I think that you have already been here for quite some time. Now, of all that time you spent here, haven't you figured out yet that this forum is not just for bounties or jobs that can earn you money? Clearly, this forum contains a lot of information and news that are mostly about cryptos that can really change the way any person sees the crypto world and help him/her to know what is the best course of action on a specific thing that a lot of people here has went through already that shared their experiences.
Apart from that, being a crypto lover/user op, are you not addicted to the thought of earning? If you have a hundred to a thousand bitcoins in your wallet, will you lose the urge to earn more? I don't think so. Because clearly, you will need to use those cryptos that you own and they will probably run out if you do not manage to earn more. Now, ways into earning them may vary due to the capabilities that are added up to you when your funds get bigger. But bottom line is that this forum can really help big time with every way you can think of that you wanna use to earn more.
Oh, and by the way, a million people having a dollar to invest on a crypto is equivalent to a million dollar investment which means we do have an impact. although not the same as anyone richer or less fortunate, we still have an impact.
Hope this clears things up for you, have a good day.
I agree with you 100% but that's because you missed my point (so did a lot of others). I'm not claiming that this forum as a whole doesn't have an impact. The impact is huge. It is in fact one of the most influential fora I have ever witnessed (if not the). But that's not my point. My point is the impact on prices are not made by the 'this community is great' or 'devs really work hard' kind of random BS people post (spread out in 80 words in order to be ok with the bounty manager). Prices are made by whales.
I've been here for a while indeed. Long enough to know that there are people here who don't invest 1-2 eth in an ico but 1000. Let's say the people behind an ico is one of these whales. Without even touching the 20k eth they got from the ico (which are monitored obviously), they use their big pockets in order to boost an ico. All of a sudden it's x3-x100, then they sell, it goes down, and up and down. We all know these charts (go look at any exchange). Pure manipulation. And my point is that it isn't always (!) new development, new exchanges, news updates or whatever everybody likes to fill pages and pages with that causes the ups and downs, it's the whales. THEY decide.
To be clear with y'all: I'm fine with that! It's an interesting field/world but please look at it from an outsiders/regular perspective: it's not normal that just an idea gets 50million dollars upfront, goes to the market and is even valued and bought more. It's not normal that something goes +1000% in a week and the week after -80%. And the posting here may have some impact, the marketing (armies) behind it even some more. But the real impact is the manipulation, let's be clear about that.
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