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bandar

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Quote from: ZaynDale on February 09, 2018, 04:30:05 PM

Yes, we still have an impact.
As the member of this forum and I do believe most of us are participating Airdrop coins and tokens and ICO Bounty campaigns and we're helping them achieve their goal especially on reaching their hard capital so we're being awarded with their coins at the end of their ICOs.
The coins and tokens that we receive it will circulate their coins on any Crypto Exchanges so we help them achieve their goals and we help them doing the trades.

That's one way of looking at it, another is that us small fish are building (eth) whales with a lot of small (ico) investments. We do not only build them, we do their marketing AND buy their coins.

An even more cynical view on the matter is that no one gives a damn about all these crypto experiments with tokens and just want ther 1 eth turn into 10eth after they sell them in max 1 year. But that's another story. Grin

Let me explain with one simple example: 1 new coin, hardly any trades, lots of supply, 1 whale pushing the coin on 1 exchange with 100btc. Complete manipulation with all of a sudden a place on coinmarketcap of, let's say 89 and green numbers of +200%. What do you think will happen? The sheep on this forum start blabbering about what a great coin, such community, many innovations and wow devs. Action (100btc pump) --> REaction (talk on this forum). Not (always) the other way around.

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Yes, we still have an impact.
As the member of this forum and I do believe most of us are participating Airdrop coins and tokens and ICO Bounty campaigns and we're helping them achieve their goal especially on reaching their hard capital so we're being awarded with their coins at the end of their ICOs.
The coins and tokens that we receive it will circulate their coins on any Crypto Exchanges so we help them achieve their goals and we help them doing the trades.

bandar

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Quote from: ilnick on February 09, 2018, 11:52:20 AM

I repeatedly watched the tape of bitcoin trades. I had to see how the price changed by ~ $500 when executing very small orders 0.001-0.1 BTC. Participants in the market with small orders moved the price - it's a fact.
We do not create news, but we react to it in the market. And we have price move)

ever heard of bots? You think whales sit behind their computers clicking 'sell 100btc at xx price'... 'yes'... ? It happens but most will do theur thing in small orders. Small orders don't mean anything.

bandar

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Quote from: jbautistangina on February 09, 2018, 12:47:37 PM

we can prevent bloodbaths if most of the people dont panic.

Look at the public here. It might be a wild guess but I think I'm not far off: my estimation is that >50% of the people here, now, investing and 'sharing their knowledge', bought btc the first time at >$10k. What do you think happens if someone saves up hard earned cash and invests in something that goes down -50% the month after their investment? Right, most panic. You can scream hodl all you want, most of the noobs will sell because they can't stand the heat.

This is part of my point: if all these small fish hodl, the market can STILL go down because there are people selling by the 100's and 1000's. We need info on the movements of whale accounts, that would be helpful. Cheesy

bandar

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I'm not saying AT ALL that bountyhunters don't make money. I made too much myself on bounties to ever claim that lol. I've been around here since 2014. In those days there were hardly any ICO's. All the 'big stars' from LSK, NXT, ETH and others posted here and you could actually follow the threads just by looking at the new posts after two days! Look at this place now! Hundreds and hundreds of threads with really young and new users all screaming eth goes up, btc goes down, is this the end? etc... All this BS doesn't effect the price imo.

I'm with the eephants and ants guy on this one. Grin

We just follow. I think there are 'forces' behind the curtains with a LOT of btc/alts pulling the strings. Don't forget eth was $2 some time ago and btc only <$100. Most of the traders here are extatic when they have a full btc or 6 eth. Don't forget some have 1000's...

jbautistangina

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There is some saying,No man is an island,a great man needs a lot of companion to achieve his success,there is no strong man to a bunch of peole which means even the whales are afraid to the small fishes when these fishes swam together,helping each other's hand to protect the market from these manipulators.All i can say is we can make a difference by having snychronization if the market has gone wild again we can prevent bloodbaths if most of the people dont panic.

cryptoSchultz18

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The real manipulators are:

big whales,
politicians,
media.

Big whales pouring much money, politicians making announcements on banning cryptocurrencies, media spreading all that and making the noise. This is how it is! Undecided

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Quote from: BaeNaNa on February 09, 2018, 11:57:08 AM

Small fish is usually the loudest but normal people panic becuase of those and contribute to the market as whole. While i agree that the whale usually don't need this forum, small and medium investor usually read this forum or reddit and some fud / rumour created may give them scare and force them to sell.

With a lot of money and whales can do anything with the market such as pump shitcoin to the moon to make others feeling scared and then the majority of uneducated person is buying at peak and the whales can dump it again for a bunch of money. Small fish make it even louder.

mautenisis

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A single person wont have an impact even if he is a whale,but a group of people in the community can make difference,a good example is PND group which cointains not only whales,but also small fishes if they are really communicating and helping each's others hand to earn money,why not the whole community of small people?we can manipulate the market if we will work as one.Always remember this,no man is an island.

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Small fish is usually the loudest but normal people panic becuase of those and contribute to the market as whole. While i agree that the whale usually don't need this forum, small and medium investor usually read this forum or reddit and some fud / rumour created may give them scare and force them to sell.

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As in any democracy, or any crowd movement, we - as individuals - don't have any impact.
But, as with the election, any vote counts.
So, our contribution, even it seems meaningless to us, will help the result that we want.

ilnick

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I repeatedly watched the tape of bitcoin trades. I had to see how the price changed by ~ $500 when executing very small orders 0.001-0.1 BTC. Participants in the market with small orders moved the price - it's a fact.
We do not create news, but we react to it in the market. And we have price move)

moonriver

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I have been using bitcointalk since late 2013.
There is no doubt that it is the most influential forum in cryptocurrency space.

Haley craft

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Why do you think bitcointalk forum is the equivalent of bounty?
Posts in this forum, every day still have a lot of technician chat on technology, because the early investment bitcoin and join the bounty threads, they make a lot of BTC, but that doesn't mean they can't continue.

Leocrypto da Vinci

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Well, we are like ants moving in a field where elephants are fighting.
We don't have any impact, we can only watch carefully where elephants legs will fall, just to not be there in the wrong moment :-)
But sometime we can catch something lost by an elephant and to become rich.

Jobbernowl

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Sometimes I look at the graphs of random coins that I do not know about. And sometimes I see such long growth candles that I start google. What project? What news? What is the reason for the growth? And what in the end? Nothing. The project is some kind of stupidity. The price increase is only a game of whales and a trap for beginners. That is life.

About bounty. I really pay attention to the signatures. I can not say that I'm running right away and buy if the signature is from the Legendary. Of course not. But there are good projects that I did not know about. Often when clicking on a link, it turns out that the white list is already closed. I think that in the bounty signature on the forum makes sense.

dimastegar

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Yes, even though many investors feel disadvantaged because of Bounty Hunter. I do not think so, because we as bounty hunter work to promote a project in the hope that all projects run successfully, in our way as Bounty hunter. So, I do not think investors should worry.

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Quote from: bandar on February 08, 2018, 05:53:40 PM

I wonder.

It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.

You are right, we are just small fish in the market, but our community has strong impacts around the world, whales and young investors still getting around our topic to get more knowledge and informations around us. Moreover it may be true to say when we can have impact on the ICOs, they need us to bring promotions for their project to get attentions from community. so in some specific circumstances the price of a coin can be effect by our community.

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Not all bounty catchers are beggars lols. Some of them are actually already with 6 figure money. Actually I my self buy from ICO, specially if the project is good. I am currently working and I seldom sell the coins I got from bounties since few months ago. Coins I got are already worth 5x of its self by just holding it.

Quote from: bandar on February 08, 2018, 05:53:40 PM

I wonder.

It looks like the people posting here don't have that much btc/cash/funds and are almost all small fish. One of the reasons is of course the bounty hunters. People with >100btc don't need bounties. People with >1000btc don't need this forum lol... So I wonder, all the fud, shilling etc here. Does it really have an impact on prices? I tend to believe we are all manipulated big time by real whales with 100's and 1000's of btc. If a group of eth hodlers of several 100k eth decide together: let's go down today, then we will go down. When prices are down enough they decide to go up. Thoughts? This pattern is the most obvious on reall small exchanges with bullshit coins. Look at some of them! You KNOW they are worth nothing and all of a sudden they moon and drop.

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If everyone on earth put 1 dollar in bitcoin. It will grow another 10%

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