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Quote from: Helen-cty on August 13, 2021, 02:53:26 AM

For me, a newcomer who has just joined the forum for a month, here are the most authentic exchanges. Every user will express his inner thoughts and suggestions. I like it here.
When I came here, I published my first article. Although some people disagree with my approach, I respect them. Everyone has different opinions and opinions. This is where people need to learn and discuss, otherwise there will never be progress.
Compared to fancy pages, I prefer the simplicity and content of the bitcointalk website. There is much more knowledge that can be learned here than I thought. In the future, more novices like me will come to the forum and grow slowly.

No site is 100% perfect as there is always an element of improvement. The admins can bring many technically and physical appearance changes in the forum which can make the forum more attractive. However i oppose the ideas like making the forum more animated or video oriented. Simplicity is the trademark of bitcointalk and it should never be compromised.

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For me, a newcomer who has just joined the forum for a month, here are the most authentic exchanges. Every user will express his inner thoughts and suggestions. I like it here.
When I came here, I published my first article. Although some people disagree with my approach, I respect them. Everyone has different opinions and opinions. This is where people need to learn and discuss, otherwise there will never be progress.
Compared to fancy pages, I prefer the simplicity and content of the bitcointalk website. There is much more knowledge that can be learned here than I thought. In the future, more novices like me will come to the forum and grow slowly.

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i think this forum with its current appearance is very interesting and simple....i see the majority of users on this forum are those who want to join the bounty campaign, they were recommended by relatives to make a few bucks from this forum. so, adding new software may not necessarily increase users imo.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 12, 2021, 03:22:19 PM

Quote from: sisikin on August 12, 2021, 02:59:20 AM

If you add a link, it may be another software. But this leaves the user in another software.

What?

Users are not necessarily lazy, though they will choose the most accessible option. That would include forums that do not require website redirects. Opening a new page is so much work: you have to navigate the mouse and click.

Think mobile interfaces with infinite scroll and swipe controls. Minimal effort. Wait until we get the eye-controllers!

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Quote from: sisikin on August 12, 2021, 02:59:20 AM

The disadvantage of this forum is that it cannot upload videos, only photos, and you can add links.

A link that explains the content of the video works just fine. The forum won't be better with videos everywhere. And besides, you can always use a workaround for that if you want. Here is the code, remember it or write it down:

Code:

[url=link to the video][img]link to the image that will be shown on the forum in place of the video[/img][/url]

Quote from: sisikin on August 12, 2021, 02:59:20 AM

If you add a link, it may be another software. But this leaves the user in another software.

What?

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on August 12, 2021, 10:06:18 AM

Although i am in favor of the new forum software with more improved and advance features but i will certainly not like people to upload videos on the forum.

I don't see any advantage to being able to upload videos here, which I assume would mean ones that are embedded in posts. It might be convenient for members who want to link to a video, but frankly I think just dropping a link to a Youtube video (or wherever it's hosted) works just fine. Yeah, this forum is old school (and getting more and more older school as the years pass), but I'm satisfied with the way it is--and I know I've said that a number of times.

Quote from: shield132 on August 11, 2021, 05:26:50 PM

Forums were popular in old years with bitcointalk's current features and ui. Do you think that 2007's Amazon could beat the current eBay? Or 2007's Youtube could beat the current dailymotion? What's the cost of bad UI? From the recent months we can say that in Citibank's case, it was 500 million USD.

Those are businesses, though, and they have to keep upgrading their user interface in order to keep up with all the new features they offer--except eBay, which doesn't need to keep changing their UI as often as they do; it's annoying, to be honest.

Bitcointalk isn't trying to compete with any other discussion forum, nor is it rapidly expanding like those businesses are. For what it is, it works just fine with the UI and functionalities it has. I'm not saying there aren't improvements that could be made, because there certainly are, but comparing it to Amazon, Youtube, and eBay isn't appropriate.

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Quote from: sisikin on August 12, 2021, 02:59:20 AM

The disadvantage of this forum is that it cannot upload videos, only photos, and you can add links.
If you add a link, it may be another software. But this leaves the user in another software.
The advantage of the forum over other software is that you can learn a lot of knowledge, whether it is technology or the history of Bitcoin, and there will not be many advertisements in the forum.

Although i am in favor of the new forum software with more improved and advance features but i will certainly not like people to upload videos on the forum.
This is a forum, let it be a forum. We already have youtube and other streaming platforms for videos.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 11, 2021, 05:26:50 PM

I don't really mean doing everything from scratch but really, we should meet the modern requirements and these requirements change quite quickly. Bitcointalk needs to deliver product at high velocity, it needs a team of front/backend developers, devops engineers, etc... Bitcointalk can be more than just a forum because this website has a unique history and it carries a lit of revolution in financial system, am I wrong?

In my view, you are not wrong. I'm all in favor of new software and I don't think it can negatively affect the community in any way. For nostalgic members, I believe it would be relatively easy to create a new theme (frontend ui) with the current forum's look and feel.

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The disadvantage of this forum is that it cannot upload videos, only photos, and you can add links.
If you add a link, it may be another software. But this leaves the user in another software.
The advantage of the forum over other software is that you can learn a lot of knowledge, whether it is technology or the history of Bitcoin, and there will not be many advertisements in the forum.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 11, 2021, 03:47:49 PM

Quote from: shield132 on August 11, 2021, 03:33:24 PM

I think that so many times have passed that the epochtalk, idea behind the epochtalk and everything related to a "new forum software" is already old and we have to really work on a new one. Bitcointalk needs full, enormous change in a better way or this forum will turn into a digital museum where the legend has born.

We need a new forum with brand new features and capabilities, kinda a mix of stackoverflow, github and reddit with some exchange elements (at least it should carry btc price in live). It can be a great PR if bitcointalk has academy or publishes course on coursera, in my mind this website has huge potential but in a way it is represented today.

There was an idea of bitcoin land by theymos that was requiring enormous amount of money but the idea of developing this forum is 100% achievable, the man was thinking about island after all.

Are you saying that they should give up on epochtalk and start from scratch designing a new forum? If so, thank you for the smile.

The idea that the "new forum software" has taken so long to be developed that it needs to be scrapped and a new forum design started is funny to me. It probably shouldn't be, but it is. Reminds me of traffic problems playing Sim City as a kid. You quickly learn that addressing traffic by building more roads is the best way to create more traffic problems.

I don't really mean doing everything from scratch but really, we should meet the modern requirements and these requirements change quite quickly. Bitcointalk needs to deliver product at high velocity, it needs a team of front/backend developers, devops engineers, etc... Bitcointalk can be more than just a forum because this website has a unique history and it carries a lit of revolution in financial system, am I wrong?

Forums were popular in old years with bitcointalk's current features and ui. Do you think that 2007's Amazon could beat the current eBay? Or 2007's Youtube could beat the current dailymotion? What's the cost of bad UI? From the recent months we can say that in Citibank's case, it was 500 million USD.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 11, 2021, 03:47:49 PM

You quickly learn that addressing traffic by building more roads is the best way to create more traffic problems.

You're clearly from the Hong Kong Road Service ... I have been here for 3 years, and all these 3 years I have only heard how the forum is being buried ... people are looking for information on thematic forums, since on the Internet there is no more detailed discussion of this or that issue that has arisen, (of course, if you want to draw your own conclusions). Therefore, bitcointalk will not go anywhere, provided that theymos will continue to do his job minimally.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 11, 2021, 03:33:24 PM

I think that so many times have passed that the epochtalk, idea behind the epochtalk and everything related to a "new forum software" is already old and we have to really work on a new one. Bitcointalk needs full, enormous change in a better way or this forum will turn into a digital museum where the legend has born.

We need a new forum with brand new features and capabilities, kinda a mix of stackoverflow, github and reddit with some exchange elements (at least it should carry btc price in live). It can be a great PR if bitcointalk has academy or publishes course on coursera, in my mind this website has huge potential but in a way it is represented today.

There was an idea of bitcoin land by theymos that was requiring enormous amount of money but the idea of developing this forum is 100% achievable, the man was thinking about island after all.

Are you saying that they should give up on epochtalk and start from scratch designing a new forum? If so, thank you for the smile.

The idea that the "new forum software" has taken so long to be developed that it needs to be scrapped and a new forum design started is funny to me. It probably shouldn't be, but it is. Reminds me of traffic problems playing Sim City as a kid. You quickly learn that addressing traffic by building more roads is the best way to create more traffic problems.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 11, 2021, 03:33:24 PM

I think that so many times have passed that the epochtalk, idea behind the epochtalk and everything related to a "new forum software" is already old and we have to really work on a new one.

You know, I was kind of wondering if that was going to happen, i.e., the new forum software becoming obsolete even before it got launched. I don't know anything about epochtalk at all, so I couldn't judge the possibility for myself, but do you think that's already the case?

Quote from: Pmalek on August 11, 2021, 07:26:59 AM

Quote from: Kiley33 on August 10, 2021, 08:37:38 PM

There are many rules in the forum, which restrain people...

I really don't think there are.

Bitcointalk is one of the least "restraining" forums I've ever seen. Even scammers are free to operate with near impunity here, and as far as what you can write, as long as it isn't spam or plagiarism, you're pretty much free to say what you want. That's not true of many forums (at least in my experience), nor are there an excessive number of rules on this one. Members who tend to have problems with those rules are the ones who just came here to use bitcointalk as a money-making mechanism and never bothered to read the rules in the first place.

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I think that so many times have passed that the epochtalk, idea behind the epochtalk and everything related to a "new forum software" is already old and we have to really work on a new one. Bitcointalk needs full, enormous change in a better way or this forum will turn into a digital museum where the legend has born.

We need a new forum with brand new features and capabilities, kinda a mix of stackoverflow, github and reddit with some exchange elements (at least it should carry btc price in live). It can be a great PR if bitcointalk has academy or publishes course on coursera, in my mind this website has huge potential but in a way it is represented today.

There was an idea of bitcoin land by theymos that was requiring enormous amount of money but the idea of developing this forum is 100% achievable, the man was thinking about island after all.

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Quote from: Kiley33 on August 10, 2021, 08:37:38 PM

There are many rules in the forum, which restrain people...

I really don't think there are. To be able to make posts without having them deleted, you basically just have to remember a few basic things:

Post in the correct sub-board.
Don't copy and paste without providing a source.
Don't make short, meaningless replies that don't add any value to the flow of information.
Don't spam.
Don't make multiple posts one below the other.

I don't think those requirements are hard to follow. For everything else, you can just ask what you don't understand or contact a mod if you have some issues.

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What I learned in this forum is some knowledge, I feel that it is more formal in this forum, and it will be easier to use other software.
There are many rules in the forum, which restrain people, but if there are too many rules, you may lose some free spirits who are not willing to be bound by rules.
Many old posts can only be found by searching, but occasionally the search function is not very good, and it takes more time.
I think the forum is very good like this. You can learn a lot of knowledge, which is better than other software. When I think of learning about cryptocurrency, I think of forums.
No need to change.

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Quote from: Clairvoyance on July 27, 2021, 09:48:05 AM

If you think about it, the forum has already changed a lot since its inception. If you check this Bitcoin Wiki piece about the forum, you will learn that it wasn't always Bitcointalk.org. Looking at a few sources, it seems that the original URL was this one > http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/boards/index.php. After that, the forum was moved to bitcoin.org. Now we have Bitcointalk.org, so the forum has already seen it's fair amount of changes. Another upgrade to a more modern software wouldn't hurt the forum or its importance.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 13, 2021, 02:56:50 AM

Do you think that in 5 or 10 years, the new generations will appreciate the significance of Bitcointalk and be happy to be part of it?
Or are we a dying breed of forum users taking their last breaths. At the same time, bigger (but not necessarily better) communities are being established elsewhere?

Case Basis:

Case 1:

If a New Forum Software has been deployed would it really be practical to link important stuff such as Satoshi's First Announcement which reside to the old forum? Would it not be seen as a "it's a new thing, not legit", "FUD by creating new forum", and others. Then, what about the accounts that are relevant to the creation of Merits and sMerits which ultimately improved the quality of posting and regulate the signature campaign standards.

Case 2:

If we continue to use this forum the 12 year long legacy of Bitcointalk being one of the disruptive and controversial mode of payment which is a threat to bank will live on. Along with its rich history that includes, Satoshi's First Announcement ", "HODL", " Lauda's Termination ", and all the other drama's that makes Bitcointalk what it is today.

Is it really okay to leave this Forum and be rebranded or do we continue and press on? I'd prefer the latter.

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The only thing that matters is the content and how supportive the community is. If there isn’t educational content or anyone working together on anything, this site is useless. Building a community that can work together to build on Bitcoin and educate others should be the only focus as that is all that matters for Bitcoin’s sake.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 13, 2021, 02:56:50 AM

With all this in mind, do you believe that once the new forum is released, Bitcointalk will increase its userbase?

I don't think the release of new forum software will increase the Bitcointalk user base because;
The new forum version or software we are expecting will not in anyway increase the number of quality or problem solving posts in the forum. It is the forum users that does that. Ever presence of quality posts keep old users and attract new users.
The new forum version will take care of the user friendliness of the forum, which is expected of every upgrade of a system. Therefore, it is only when someone is aware of something that a change will increase or decrease the user base.

I am of the opinion that the fund for new forum should be diverted to increase the visibility of this forum in the search engines. Such that whenever anyone searches any keyword about cryptocurrency, this forum appears. By this, the number of users will increase.

Another factor is the reason people join Bitcointalk. If someone joins because of some monetary benefits, once the person makes the money he is out. It is therefore necessary for the forum to breed and sustain users that are here primary for knowledge gaining and sharing. By this in 10yrs time, we could actually see what to look back at and smile.
Thanks!

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