Topic: Do You Believe a New Forum Software Will Attract More Users to Bitcointalk? - page 4. (Read 1521 times)

No

I don't really think that these are new users, that if it is important, new users bring new ideas, new problems, etc.

It is the tedious idea that "change" is an improvement, and yes! That is a true assertion in the XXI century, the processes, systems and everything related are updated more quickly.

Who does not adapt to change simply faces the very simple conjecture "time question" that kills you (disappears) or strengthens you as a project in itself.

Social networks as the main mirror of comparison in their "success" perhaps are a mirage of where the forum can go with a change, when a popular social network reaches the top how many have fallen or are still surviving, that is, there is only one opportunity for the forum to enter the question of time guess, which does not guarantee anything, not even keep what exists.

In that sense, I think that the dilemma or the question is not whether there should be a change, but when it should be done?

People will be attracted to Bitcoin, crypto market and the Bitcointalk.org forum mostly in bull market. It repeatedly happens in the past bull cycles.

A new forum software can attract new members but it would not be significant effect. The market cycle is more important.

• Forum's 2020-year-end report
• Time Series on monthly statistics of forum (new users, new topics, new posts)

I just saw this thread and it caught my nterest, so I'll just leave one of my random thoughts here,...

It ain't gonna attract more users, as for the better one is still here in this current forum, much user-friendly IMO. And I also don't think the New Forum will get much exposure that this old one, If I were to choose, I'd better stay here

YoBit used to pay in Bitcoin via their exchange back in the early days, but the amount of abuse which was understandable caused them to shift to the TALK tokens.

Getting paid for posting should be a privilege you earn by bringing quality to the boards and engaging the community in discussions. It shouldn't be there from the get-go. You can compare it to when you were a kid and started kicking a ball for the first time. As you grew up and developed, you started kicking it better and you played with your friends after school. You liked it so you joined a sports academy. If you are any good and show potential, you get a contract and make a career out of it.

Maybe the comparison is a little exaggerated, but the point is you weren't paid to play with your friends or when you started running after the ball aged 4. It's similar on the forum. You are a newbie when you come here. You start reading and learning, asking questions, and helping others with the things they don't know. You get noticed and merited, you develop and reach higher ranks, and you end up getting selected by a campaign to promote it and earn while doing so.      

You wouldn't be here if those points were worth a thing, just like Altcointalk they try to fool their users with a worthless shit token but they end up being a spam hole. Yobit did the same thing and got worse.

Not paying for post is the best thing that ever happen to bitcointalk

I've joined a forum that's not YoBit but it pays in points that are exchangeable into crypto and fiat.

Not surprisingly 99% of the post are just the same shit targeted at the OP's question. Hardly any discussion.

Those who want a pay-to-post type of forum should look up Yobit's Cryptotalk. You won't earn any bitcoin with them, but you will get their native talk tokens. As far as I can see it's not listed anywhere but maybe they are planning to list it on their own exchange. Enjoy the spam fest and nonsense.

I would rather say the situation is reversed. Old members (including myself) wouldn't mind if the forum stayed the way it is right now. New users who are hooked on to social media want to see a more modern approach, emojis, likes, etc.

Charles-Tim is absolutely right about that unnecessary fee. It's a real setback for a noble site like bitcointalk. Whatever the reason as penance for an evil IP (whatsoever that means) doesn't hold waters. Someone registering for the first time without anyone's direction or referral would think it's a scam site, honestly. I, for one, wouldn't have registered if that evil fee were there when I stumbled onto this forum in 2017. I mean, how do you convince someone to pay to register on a site that isn't a seminar class? How? Theymos should do something urgent about that.

Don't get me wrong, I do think a new forum software will affect the traffic in a positive way, but in a very minuscule way.

And sure, spammers will come back with the next cryptocurrency boom, but let's not kid ourselves. The hoards of spammers are going to come with full force regardless if we have a new forum software or not, and an good 'ol forum software definitely ain't going to slow them down.

If your motive of joining the forum was to generate income and not to gain knowledge then you are on the wrong forum and you will never grow with that mentality of yours. Those old members according to you are not being paid by the forum, they are hired and paid by a random company/individual for being a good poster and a positive contributor to the forum.

If you want to enjoy the benefit of sig and avatar campaigns then start making yourself useful to the forum, nobody was made Legendary, they all started from scratch. The primary purpose of the forum is to learn about Bitcoin, other benefits are just secondary.

Ah, just wait for the next mass bounty cycle. If the forum traffic was able to spike to such highs in hundreds of low-quality bounty threads, just imagine what would happen if the UI was updated to modern standards and if UX was improved so bounty hunters could shitpost with ease.

Unless the new forum is going to be paying per post you can guarantee that no one will care other than old members who have to get used to the new forum. New members joining are not going to care if you have a old forum software or you are using the new state of the art forum software. All they care about is earning money and as long as the forum allows them to do that they are going to use it anyway. I do not use Linux because its sexy I use it because it is better than Windows and the same principle goes for the forum. People are not going to care after the initial getting used to if the forum is nice to look at or not they will adapt.

It's an easy no for me; or at least, the effect would be quite minuscule.

Why? Simply because the mass majority are just so used to consuming short-form content(e.g. most of Reddit and Twitter) and the usage of mobile apps that it's unlikely that the mass majority are going to go back to sort of "legacy" communities(like forums).

..and that's a good thing. The last thing we want is more nonsense moonboys here; and a lot more of those people that are technical and are genuinely interested in Bitcoin.

An academy section works for exchanges like Binance where users can learn about different things from the blockchain niche. But this whole forum is an academy already and each thread can be considered a separate course. You just have to find and study those courses you are interested in. An Academy would have to be written and maintained by someone and I don't think it's the type of additional work the admins are looking forward to. We have been talking about a welcome message for years now and we still don't have one.   

Something custom is usually better especially for adding functionality. As far as I'm aware, SMF can be a little bit difficult at times. Also, working with PHP can be a nightmare. So, while the new forum wouldn't attract new users probably, I imagine if Bitcointalk had enough on going developers, the functionality of the site would likely improve for existing users.
Its hard to predict how much it would be effective in its initial state, but it would definitely help. I would say, that a user doesn't get whitelisted from just one post, I think having a undefined amount of posts before the shadow ban was lifted would probably be of benefit here. Although, that would likely be very similar to the newbie jail, and probably more restrictive.

Unfortunately, for those that want to put the effort in, they would be able to get around most restrictions we put in place, and that isn't something we could combat effectively. However, as we know many of those that are spamming the forums, aren't particularly fussed on making any effort at all, even when it means they can earn money from it. So, while its quite possible to cheat your way around the system, it would still probably prevent a lot of the spam getting out.

So while it isn't a catch all, it would certainly contribute to the quality of the forum, and would almost certainly prevent bots from being exposed to the public.

It boils down to the features added to make it more attractive and interacting let's consider having a feature like an academy on the new forum software where newbies and existing users could gain knowledge about blockchain technology and other crypto related courses before participating on the forum then having a small exam or test at the end of the course If possible a certificate certainly many new users would have interest and might sign-up to partake in the academy and after which make posts with quality.

Relax, man. You shouldn't react so sensitive to simple joke. People are so sensitive nowadays that it's difficult to tell joke without offending anyone.

Wow, so much anger over a post. Got up on the wrong side of the bed, hmm?

You should learn more about hyperboles before going off on another rant.