Topic: Do you believe in god? - page 148. (Read 316068 times)

GOD is energy. Thats it. Nothing more nothing less.

Religions are just a playground for imagination created tales and legends. There are no gods just energy and matter.

And now you are starting to understand!

Signing off as Chuckle is definitely a better name change. Congratulations on the improvement.

The way to rebut your so-called rebuttal. Oh, I know. You wrote it.

Chuckle.

A way to rebut the links..... hmmm...... Oh I know..... YOU wrote them.

That's enough for anyone!

I believe in God, absolutely yes. He's the one who created all your eyes can see. It's all His. We never own anything in this world, its all from Him including our lives. He provides everything for us, even a single thing so be thankful for he has done for you.

Good for you dippididodaday.

Though I do not know your situation if you and yours have been harmed by people acting in the name of religion or by fate itself that is indeed a very horrible thing.

It has been argued that evil committed in the name of God is the worst of all sins.
http://www.jewishjournal.com/dennis_prager/article/why_evil_committed_in_the_name_of_god_is_worse

Once you have forgiven those who have done you wrong your efforts must turn to building a comprehensive and rational worldview one that is healthy and encompasses all aspects of reality around you. This is no small task and I by no means claim to have special insight into that that journey. I do believe, however, that I have thought more about the issue than most.

The arguments and logic below form a good portion of my current thinking on the matter. You may or may not find them helpful.

The Foundations of Contentionism:
Cycles of Contention
The Rise of Knowledge
Entropy is Information
The Math of Optimal Fitness
The Limits of Science
Religion and Progress
The Nature of Freedom
Morality and Sin
Knowledge, Entropy and Freedom

Thanks, again, for helping to prove that God exists, by saying that He doesn't, and yet you have no proof that He doesn't. And you can't even begin to refute the science that proves God DOES exist:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

So, thanks for helping to prove He exists.

Making things, or things having a beginning, is something that has to do with the physics of this universe. God is home outside of this universe where things don't work as they do in this universe. God doesn't necessarily have to have been made. He always was and always will be.


There is only one God. The complexities of this universe are too great for there to have been more than one God making it. Even if there were more than one creator, in order to make this universe, they would have had to come together as one to do it. One God.


We make robots. Some of the robots are in human form. They are made in our image. But they are not human. Just because we are made in the image of God does not mean God is human.


Science theory attempts to prove the God idea wrong. Science theory is really unknown. That's why it is called "theory." It isn't known to be fact.


God made everything. He made the science of things. He made the physics of this universe. People are only scratching the surface of what the science of this universe is all about. We don't know enough scientifically to say that God doesn't exist. The little bit of science that we understand as fact says that God DOES exist:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.


We don't really know what a Black Hole is. We have never visited one. All we have is theory. Theory is not known to be factual. The BH you are talking about is science fiction.

Further, there are at least 3 major Big Bang Theories, and at least 4 major BH Theories. All of them are different. None of the BHs could operated in any of the universes created by the BBs. They are not compatible. The point? Science theory is science fiction until it has been proven to be science law.


Again, according to science law (fact), and not according to science theory (unknown), God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.


Why not? We can't even imagine what outside of the universe might be like. Why not? Because everything we do and think is connected to the universe and has its base in the universe. We simply don't know if the "stuff" outside of the universe has anything to do with science or not.


When are you going to wake up to the fact that science as we know it is so small when compared with science that exists, that there is no OTHER way to say it except that God exists. This means that those who are atheists are the biggest religious freaks.

God got here exactly at the time He made the "here."


The answers are in science:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.


Since God made you and holds you alive, you had better lick His feet if that is what He wants.


You NEED to think that God can punish, because you are a truth-seeker. Did you ever pull the wings or legs off an insect? Did the insect even understand you at all?



If you look at these last things that you have said from a slightly different perspective, you are starting to see.

The place that you are wrong is that man isn't simply creating God in man's mind. God created man, and gave man a knowledge of Himself. Now man is trying to wish God out of existence.

That is a stupid religion you have there, a religion of trying to have enough god-strength so that you can wish God out of existence.

I read a story long time ago, an atheist military man after win a war in the middle east was on his way back to his country in the bush, he sow an Arabian muslim faithful and camp with him so he can rest for some days. The Muslim man pray to his god about five times a day. The atheist man was observing him any time he pray until he ask the  man what he thinks his doing any time his doing that pray and tried to convince him that there is no Goa. The Muslim man give and answer that nock out the atheism mentality from the military man, the only way to know if someone past besides your huts at night when you are live on a see saws is by his foot step". God has put his foot step on the sands of life. The winds, the sky, the earth and every living creatures, the moon, the son and even human beings proved beyond reasonable doubt that there is God.

If god made us in his image who made god in his image?..
Remember god freaks say something must of made all this like a man like figure?..

So for your mind to think something must a made all this like a god because it just cannot pop up..
Well who made your gods?..

Your mind is asking the question what made all this?..Something must of?..
Must of been a human type thing that made us..
Now as time as gone on science as proven you wrong?..
Now people are calling god A SOMETHING THAT MADE ALL THIS..But that's not a god?..
That's SCIENCE because something must of made all this.

A black hole could suck all the matter in and the matter gets to heavy and then the black hole explodes
ripping a new part of the universe open to start the BIG BANG..

And not just 1 big bang multiple big bangs all over the vast space of the universe...

Then we go into the question what makes a black hole..
We don't say a man like thing made it ..Without having proof ..

If an alien made the earth because they knew how to make new worlds that's not GOD..
It's SCIENCE..

So for you religious freaks out there..If something cannot come from nothing..Because that's why you say there is a god?..HOW DID GOD GET HERE..And don't say because he is GOD ..

The questions you seek is in SCIENCE not religion..

WHY do i need to lick someone feet..So why a god?..

Why do i need to think that a god can punish me for my wrongs?. Is it because i am already wrong?..

So maybe that's why humans need a god because they are already wrong..Hmmm..
Because most humans know how bad they are or how bad other humans are..

So they need something to punish them even after there dead ..

So like i always said it's the blame game..

Releasing God, the hardest thing I've ever done.

God is His own Self. The reason why we can say, "I am" or "I exist," is because God has made us in His image.

continuing from my last reply. If there is a god he must be Woden the Allfather. Along with all the other gods they form the pillars on how to live life and treat others.

Of course I believe in God, our creator, our personal savior, our provider, our healer. In this world we have so much religions but I believe that we have only ONE GOD, its just that we have different ways to praise Him. I respect all the religions in this world and I expect to respect mine also.

Hahahaha. Plot twist. Enter argument "God is Love". Lol

I might believe in God. But do you believe in love after love?

Yes I believe in god because he's the one who creates everything in this world. If you won't believe in god then think of it why there is a sun? sky? stars? Then why you exist in this world?

According to what exists in the universe, and our lack of knowledge whatsoever of how it came into being, God is the best and most logical answer.

You have no idea what scientific proof entails. How can we tell? Because you haven't been able to go beyond the beginning of disproving the proof of God proffered. What is the beginning? The beginning is to simply say that there is no proof. Come on. You can do more than that, can't you?

Since cause and effect, complex universe, and entropy are standard scientific understandings all over the world, perhaps you should stop proving that you don't know much about scientific proof, and start learning about it so that you can rebut the science. If you don't, all you will be proving is your ignorance.

However, proving your ignorance is okay. At least you are helping to prove that God exists by proving your ignorance. But proving God in this way will not be beneficial for you in the end.

Thank you.   

Here is an interesting little 5 minute video on forgiveness by UCLA psychiatrist Dr. Stephen Marmer. He talks about the the three types of forgiveness--exoneration, forbearance, and release and the role of each.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/life-studies/forgiveness