Topic: Do you believe in god? - page 149. (Read 316068 times)

An honest answer to your question: "What created big bang, or what was there before the big bang?" is "I don't know", not "God did it".

Same goes for the question: "How the universe will end?", is "I don't know".  Although top theoretical physicists have suggested few possible outcomes.

You are just making bunch of assumptions and conjectures instead of just to say: "I have no idea how the world was created.". 

It is ok to not know stuff.

BTW, you have no idea what a scientific proof entails.

I also don't believe in God. Still as I understand our ancestors who were ignorant and could believe in fairy tales, but those who in our time believes in fairy tales I don't understand. They probably didn't do well in school.

No I do not believe in a god. I believe our ancestors worshipped nature itself for giving them life and saw the sun as god.

A way to rebut the links..... hmmm...... Oh I know..... YOU wrote them.

That's enough for anyone!

I guess forget and forgive too, right BADecker? Sounds easy as pie, I'll give it a try.

Your religion of atheism goes against the proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Perhaps if you could come up with a way to rebut the info found in the links, what you say might have some strength. To simply say it, doesn't make it so. Saying it without proof makes what you say a religion.

Let me stop you right there (bolded sentence): God does not exist.

It amazes me that people say they know what God wants.  Some people have a direct line to God I guess.  VIP membership I bet.

The whole, basic idea of Christianity and the Bible is this.
God is infinitely stronger and more intelligent than people.
People all over the world turned against God to their own hurt.
God offers a way out of their impending destruction ... through Jesus salvation.
Some people accept Jesus salvation.
Accepting Jesus salvation doesn't make anybody righteous in the way he lives this life.
Jesus salvation saves people for the New Universe God is making.
There will be no imperfection in the New Universe.

Think about this. There are only a small handful of people in recent years who have claimed to be over 120 years old. There are only about 3 or 4 who have claimed to have reached 200. People die. People need salvation from death. God is way stronger than people. He has offered Jesus salvation, the only way.

Forget the wrong things that people do. Aim for the thing that is important. Jesus salvation.

The Christian West has been and continues to be very far from ideal. If one reads even a little about the treatment of Native Americans by the Europeans especially the treatment of Native Americans by Spain it is pretty grim stuff. I am less knowledgeable about the treatment of the Australian Aboriginal people but I am sure there are parallels.  

We cannot change the past so how do we help these people now? ... Here are some thoughts.

Race/Ethnicity, Religious Involvement, and Domestic Violence
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1077801207308259

Alcoholism Risk Moderation by a Socio-Religious Dimension
http://www.jsad.com/doi/abs/10.15288/jsad.2007.68.912

Makes me laugh. You know, stuff like...

God wants this.
God wants that.
God wants x.
God doesn't want you to do y.
God is z.
God isn't 2n+4.
God loves p/q.
God hates t - n/3.
God will do 5 ± √4 if you do Σk=0ry - 3.3

 

What people are really saying when they say "God wants x", is "I want God to want x". But not being truthful and actually saying it.

Isn't it interesting that everybody's God always wants the same thing they want?
Isn't it interesting that anybody that believes in heaven has a self-signed certificate of guaranteed entry?
It's as if they've custom built their own God to their own liking.

 

These bespoke gods are a little like the smell of ones own farts. Everyone loves the smell of their own farts (their god), but other peoples farts (other gods) smell rancid.
 

If you didn't see the world and life around you, but only heard about it from a distance, you wouldn't believe it could exist, either.

I have certainly not shaking knees. I fear no divine judgment. As for the Bible there is written all the tale. I do not believe that eve was created from Adam's rib. I'm not saying that children from relatives are freaks.

If you have any questions about or for God, the answers are in the bible, or you can ask Him in the judgment at the last day... if your knees aren't quaking too hard.

I'm not an atheist. I believe in Vaishnavism and the supreme being or god is Vishnu in which Krishna is gods avatar. The holy texts are the Vedas and Upanishads. The Vedas are among the oldest sacred texts in the world. The Samhitas date to roughly 1700–1100 BC when Rig Veda was authored. Your religion is a relative newcomer to the god scene.

Why did your god not show himself to the devotees of the Sri Sampradaya the believers of the true and first god of the people? Was he afraid of Vishnu's power?

The Bhagavad Gita tells us, “The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it" and “delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed.”

Your search for something greater than yourself has led you astray toward false gods because your bewildered mind is your enemy and your intellect and reasoning are corrupted. Accept Vishnu and set your mind at peace before it's too late.

The point wasn't to state that God exists or doesn't exist. The point is just as you have said, above. Like as theists have religion in their theism, even so atheists have religion in their atheism.

From wiki the following snippets:  44,000 years ago Australia separated from Papua New Guinea...Aboriginal Australians one of the oldest living populations in the world and possibly the oldest outside of Africa, confirming they may also have the oldest continuous culture on the planet...the Aboriginal peoples have occupied the same territory continuously longer than any other human populations... Australia was isolated for a long time from the rest of Southeast Asia, and remained untouched by migrations and population expansions.  


This information suggest to me these cultures (more than 400 distinct Australian Aboriginal peoples) came a god damn long way on their own, without the interference of the Christian West.


But now, we see this, also from wiki (under Aboriginal Australians) :


Aboriginal Australians have disproportionately high rates of severe physical disability, as much as three times that of non-Aboriginal Australians, possibly due to higher rates of chronic diseases such as diabetes and kidney disease.

One study reports that Aboriginal Australians are affected by a large number of infectious diseases, particularly in rural areas. These diseases include strongyloidiasis, hookworm caused by Ancylostoma duodenale, scabies, and streptococcal infections

Another study examining the psychosocial functioning of high risk exposed and low risk exposed Aboriginal Australians aged 12–17 found that in high risk youths, personal wellbeing was protected by a sense of solidarity and common low socioeconomic status. However, in low risk youths, perceptions of racism caused poor psychosocial functioning. The researchers suggested that factors such as racism, discrimination, and alienation contributed to physiological health risks in families belonging to ethnic minorities

Aboriginal Australians suffer from high rates of heart disease

Due to the complex nature of the alcohol and domestic violence issue in the Northern Territory, proposed solutions are contentious

Modern Aboriginal Australians tend to have nutritionally poor diets, especially in rural areas where higher food costs drive people to consume cheaper, lower quality foods. The average diet contains too many refined carbohydrates and excessive salt, while lacking fruit and vegetables


It seems to me the Christian West did a tremendous job in fucking up these intracately formed, finely balanced, NATURAL cultures.

I could say the same about those who believe in God. You have no proof that God exists. In addition, scientists decided to prove that something is, not what something is not. So atheism is not a religion, but the opinion of scientists.

When atheists make the determination that there is no God, even though they know that they don't have enough factual knowledge to prove that there is no God, they are setting themselves up as though they were gods, just by making their determination.

Atheism not only becomes a religion because of their beliefs that aren't necessarily true, but becomes a lie as well, because they know that they don't know that there is no God.

Atheism is not a religion. Believers worship God, atheists don't worship anyone. Moreover, they require evidence in order not to be deceived. Believers also deceived and they are not smart enough to see this.