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Topic: Do you like Volatility? Debate (Read 464 times)

sr. member
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April 06, 2021, 10:29:44 AM
#65
Since I don't have a lot of bitcoin and I want to buy more at a lower price, I am in favor of volatility because it is just a short term event that doesn't really affect the overall growth of bitcoin in the long term plus with volatility, there is no possibility that someone might exploit the system which makes the game for every trader and investors fair and square
legendary
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April 06, 2021, 05:24:15 AM
#64
Well, there is nothing wrong with having volatility in the market, it’s a normal thing that should be and I don’t see the need to change it. Investments in cryptocurrency especially Bitcoin has changed the life of so many people around the world and it was through this same volatility that all things were able to happen, if there was no volatility as huge as it is now , then we wouldn’t have seen people who will get their life changed easily through Bitcoin.

Although sometimes we don’t like this volatile nature of Bitcoin, one thing we have to also know is that the volatility has never stopped people from making use of Bitcoin, no matter what they are steady making use of it.
hero member
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April 05, 2021, 07:34:43 PM
#63
Crypto is nothing without volatility because if you hold btc at a certain area and range bound it, alts will start their run up. And about btc, it is no fun to see btc sitting at one place only as for me, I couldn't digest my food without seeing btc showing at least 2-3% movement towards any direction.

2-3% is something that you can see in forex or stocks market which means that it is less riskier on having this kind of movement and it wont really be appealing
to anyone who had transfered from other market into crypto because of this very reason.We do love to play with the waves because on these movements or waves
we do able to make money which is more than on the amount that we can possibly earn into those old markets that we know.
If volatility isnt on this market then we wont really be seeing this like this big.
legendary
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April 05, 2021, 02:54:18 PM
#62
Crypto is nothing without volatility because if you hold btc at a certain area and range bound it, alts will start their run up. And about btc, it is no fun to see btc sitting at one place only as for me, I couldn't digest my food without seeing btc showing at least 2-3% movement towards any direction.
hero member
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April 05, 2021, 02:20:04 PM
#61
Volatility is the most important when it comes cyrpto currency because without such things it will become a stable coin in the market .. And there's no reason to invest in it.. Just waste of time.. How investors can make profits? Seems good to choose real investment in my opinion if there's no volatility in crypto currency because for sure there's a good return. Just saying..
I do agree with the idea that it would become a stablecoin if there is no volatility. However we could also drop it down a notch as well, the idea is not to make bitcoin stay at 60k and never move, but it is also to prevent it from going 58k to 43k to 60k all inside a month, that is a huge volatility.

So why not have something in between, how about max 10% per week? That would be great if it happened, in any direction, so you do not win much but you do not lose much. Obviously nobody can put a limit of %10 movement on bitcoin since it could make a lot more money somewhere else, but that doesn't change the fact that it would be good if it happened, even though it can't happen. That is what I believe people are talking about, would you prefer bitcoin that is not stablecoin but doesn't move like it does now, it moves but moves a lot less volatile.
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April 05, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
#60
Honestly, no genuine cryptocurrency enthusiast will dislike the volatility of the crypto market because the volatility in nature of the market is one of the reasons why the crypto market experienced an unexpected ATH price.
But people are referring the ups and downs of market by volatility which got nothing to do achieving ATH. I mean that market can move steadily toward ATH without going ups and downs randomly. So, I am not ready to accept that the all crypto people are liking volatile nature of bitcoins. Still, none of us got nothing to do with volatile nature of cryptos; it will remain as it is today until main stream adoption of cryptos will be happening.
It normal that we can't all like the volatility of the crypto market but the people that don't like the volatility in the nature of the market are not genuine crypto enthusiast because nothing on earth will have advantages and won't have disadvantages so i count those people as individuals that want to profit from the market and can't accept the fact about the market. Besides, every investment is volatile in its own way and the last time I check we all play a role in the market volatility.
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April 05, 2021, 12:33:02 PM
#59
Honestly, no genuine cryptocurrency enthusiast will dislike the volatility of the crypto market because the volatility in nature of the market is one of the reasons why the crypto market experienced an unexpected ATH price.
But people are referring the ups and downs of market by volatility which got nothing to do achieving ATH. I mean that market can move steadily toward ATH without going ups and downs randomly. So, I am not ready to accept that the all crypto people are liking volatile nature of bitcoins. Still, none of us got nothing to do with volatile nature of cryptos; it will remain as it is today until main stream adoption of cryptos will be happening.

Volatility is the most important when it comes cyrpto currency because without such things it will become a stable coin in the market .. And there's no reason to invest in it.. Just waste of time.
No, without volatile also crypto investments will be profitable if it grows steadily over the time. No stocks/commodities are trading like that. But, being non-volatile does not mean stable, I just meant that.
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April 05, 2021, 10:56:06 AM
#58
Honestly, no genuine cryptocurrency enthusiast will dislike the volatility of the crypto market because the volatility in nature of the market is one of the reasons why the crypto market experienced an unexpected ATH price.
sr. member
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April 05, 2021, 09:04:40 AM
#57
Volatility is the most important when it comes cyrpto currency because without such things it will become a stable coin in the market .. And there's no reason to invest in it.. Just waste of time.. How investors can make profits? Seems good to choose real investment in my opinion if there's no volatility in crypto currency because for sure there's a good return. Just saying..
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April 05, 2021, 08:14:23 AM
#56
Devoid volatility how can be cryptocurrency, volatility is the main characteristics of cryptocurrencies. Suppose the crypto market is nonvolatile then why you invest in crypto and what will accomplish from your investment or how to get the possibility to financially self-reliant. But this is the true crypto market is highly volatile if there scams and speculation minimise then high volatility will decrease as normal.
sr. member
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April 05, 2021, 06:20:20 AM
#55
People surely prefer to choose real investments like Gold or Land if no volatility in crypto. But since crypto has big volatility, people know it is a chance for them to gain bigger profits. Even if it is risky, people will join for the potential profits they can get.


Humans love gambling and the volatility in cryptocurency present similar feeling of gambling on the outcome of the market with a chance of gaining massive profits if there prediction goes right. You'll hardly see anyone settling for small daily profits compared to investing in some roundom new idea that comes into the market been hyped to be the next big thing.

The love for volatility is the reason we have so many altcoins in the market if not we would had focus on maximizing the small percentage you can get from trading Bitcoin. The volatility of cryptocurency is its selling point as with high volatility creates rooms for huge profit to be made but that doesn't mean you can't suffer loss too which is why we have to be cautious in our decision making.
Right. Though in my case, I have different feeling when I say gambling for some reason.
When I hear gambling, I hear something that I throw something then get double or nothing from what I had thrown.

I gotta admit that I invested here in Bitcoin partially for its value and its utility, while the utility leads in over my reasoning.
Even though there are plenty of altcoins in the market, I never tread in those coins a lot.
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Sinjokubhi
April 04, 2021, 09:44:25 PM
#54
I wanted to know the general preference of people here. What are your views on Volatility and why ?

-Do You Consider Volatility to be an opportunity Where you can buy more coins and hold them for later
              OR
-Do you think that Volatility is unnecessary and should be leveled to match the market fiats so that Bitcoins can finally be stable and used as a currency.

Let me present my point of view.
(A healthy discussion is greatly appreciated)
-I do think that Volatility is an amazing opportunity to not only gain some Bitcoins but also perfect for interday trading, at the same time for people who did miss the opportunity to buy some at the right time, it gives you an opportunity to make that right. At the same time I do trust that we can always achieve ATH therefore it's also a matter of patience. It's not like you would loose when the value goes down. So if you have : Patience and you did miss your chance, I do think Volatility is a healthy thing for cryptocurrencies like Bitcoins. Then again we don't need to always compare Bitcoins with things like : traditional money 💸 , it's a whole different story.

What do you think ?
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Yeah, I like volatility, because given how important it is. Because with volatility we can find out how the action we have to take, we should buy and hold, or even sell, you can find out through the volatility that is happening at that time. In my opinion, here are some important things about volatility.

1. Volatility is referred to as "the state of the market"
Volatility is a change in price that shows market fluctuations in a certain period. Because with this we can see prices can jump up or even fall down, which means that there is high volatility. Meanwhile, when the market is calm, it means that there is low volatility where none of the sellers and buyers dominate the market.

2. Profit opportunity is directly proportional to risk opportunity
When there is high volatility, you will get a big profit opportunity because the price will move far from the previous closing price. However, this is directly proportional to your risk opportunities because no one can hold and predict market movements. This is when your stop loss comes into play.

3. Use of stop losses
"Cut your losses short and let your profits run"

I think this adage is applicable when the market is in high volatility conditions and profit opportunities are directly proportional to risk opportunities, so that you can anticipate uncontrollable losses you can place a stop loss position that is smaller than your target profit level.

4. Fundamentals affect volatility
Volatility increases when there is new news that is different from market expectations when data is released from one of the important activities in the economic market. Brokers usually provide an Economic Calendar to inform you of the data release schedule for important activities that can trigger increased volatility. Such as the United States Economic Data which can have a big influence as a determinant of market sentiment.

5. Volatility is a trader's main focus
Take advantage of high volatility when trading every day (overlap) where market liquidity is high or when important news is released such as US economic data. Meanwhile, low volatility will occur during national holidays such as Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Year, and others.
legendary
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April 04, 2021, 07:59:57 PM
#53
Yes, volatility is very helpful, especially for day trading, it is very easy to find profit there, but of course we must not forget the risk, right Smiley
high risk, high return, if the profit you get is large, but the risk is also greater, so this also needs to be considered and also taken into account when doing day trading, especially for novice traders who are not familiar with money management and risk management.
hero member
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April 04, 2021, 04:52:15 PM
#52
Having seen people trade news via fundamental trading which is a volatile time and has shown traders to come out profitable at these times, I can say volatility is very good for trading!

You don't want markets which look like they are on holiday waiting for markets to open, trade when markets are volatile they always pay both sellers and buyers!!
Im a forex/stocks trader and thats one of the reason on why i transferred and focused more on crypto market than into those traditional markets because of that volatility.

Yes, it might be riskier but its more rewarding and really worth for the risk you do put on plus having that decentralized characteristic where you can make out deposits without
any need of using your card or bank.

This market wont really make this big if that level of volatility doesnt exist or on the minimal just like into those traditional markets.
sr. member
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April 04, 2021, 04:07:49 PM
#51
I do think that Volatility is an amazing opportunity to not only gain some Bitcoins but also perfect for interday trading, at the same time for people who did miss the opportunity to buy some at the right time, it gives you an opportunity to make that right. At the same time I do trust that we can always achieve ATH therefore it's also a matter of patience. It's not like you would loose when the value goes down. So if you have : Patience and you did miss your chance, I do think Volatility is a healthy thing for cryptocurrencies like Bitcoins. Then again we don't need to always compare Bitcoins with things like : traditional money 💸 , it's a whole different story.

What do you think ?
I have to be honest about this, I am in a sort of dilemma about this subject. I am not a person who trades a lot, I usually invest and let it be and I am not planning on selling so for me it could just go up forever and never down, straight arrow up without ever going down and that would be fine with me. However I know that can't happen, so I rather have the last 6 months to continue for another 60 years and that would be great, even if that is not going to happen neither I am just hoping for it.

However I also support unregulated markets and currency that could be used anyway we want and no governments getting involved as well, even though more and more countries do get involved we at least have something we could say ours here with decentralization, yet that causes some of the volatility itself. So, I am not sure what I like but I am fine with the current situation, let's leave it at that.
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April 04, 2021, 01:53:34 PM
#50
Having seen people trade news via fundamental trading which is a volatile time and has shown traders to come out profitable at these times, I can say volatility is very good for trading!

You don't want markets which look like they are on holiday waiting for markets to open, trade when markets are volatile they always pay both sellers and buyers!!
hero member
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April 04, 2021, 12:42:52 PM
#49
That is one of the primary reasons on why most investors include cryptocurrencies in their investment portfolio as they can be a perfect instrument for short-term investments or for day trading.

Unlike stocks, the value of cryptocurrencies are very volatile as they happen every single of the day. Unlike in stocks where there is a designated time for the market, cryptocurrencies are being traded every single minute which explains its high volatility. Despite its volatility, this may can be a double-edged sword especially if you enter the market on its peak.

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April 04, 2021, 10:46:37 AM
#48
In one side volatility is good to get profit quickly, as an example you trade with low time frame like 15 minutes and if the market is volatile then you just need several hours to reach the target price that you predict. Different, if you make an entry with the volatility market is low then you may need long time to get reach the target price that you want.

But, in other side the volatile market is not suitable for long term investment especially if you use future market, you may lose your money in a few times. As an example you use high time frame like 4 hours and you have intention to trade swing trade because the market is volatile and you use cut lose target is close from you buy/sell entry then you will lose your money.
sr. member
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April 04, 2021, 09:44:16 AM
#47
It depends to be honest, sometimes I do hate it because if I need money and I need to cash out something, I can't, because I don't want to lose my profit in the long run, so I wait, sometimes I don't if it's an emergency. But most of the time I could say I like volatility as an opportunity to make profits in the long run, whether it's bearish market or a bull market, it doesn't really matter as long as you know when to enter and exit a trade, you'll be safe.
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Bitcoindata.science
April 04, 2021, 12:03:53 AM
#46
Volatility is a key factor that adds value to the crypto pairs. Bitcoin is highly volatile and since most time traders runs out in losses it's, it would be more preferred to use the high volatility of Bitcoin as an opportunity to HODL bitcoin rather than trade them with exception to high wallet size owners. A trader with smaller account size example (BTC0.0003452) would most likely have his stop limit triggered before moving towards the predicted trend. Larger account size example (BTC 0.5) upward could even hold a trade and cross it to the next day if his analysis are right. Reasons been that market moves in two direction irrespective of the trend
  • Impulsive
  • Corrective
Knowing when to buy and sell with well structured analysis would add increase the profit margin of the trader
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