Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility? - page 3.

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Quote from: acdc on September 09, 2020, 09:22:08 AM

I like a coin with negative fluctuations.
The cryptocurrency market attracts people because of its volatility and through which smart people make money, if the market stands still people get nothing.
If people don't like the coin with negative movements I think they should choose a stabecoin or leave the cryptocurrency market.

if you choose a coin that has a price movement specification like that then it will make you lose because the price could collapse and crash, like some time ago a coin had a price drop until the project died and there was no further development and ended up losing all.

Of course, when investing in the cryptocurrency market everyone has to understand the profits and risks that the market can bring. If we invest in a dead coin we can lose all our money, but if you invest in a good coin when its price is cheap, you will surely make a big profit.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 10, 2020, 07:06:46 PM

Do you know what means by "volatility?"

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liability to change rapidly and unpredictably, especially for the worse.

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Historical volatility, as well as implied volatility and volatility in general, can never be negative. In other words, it can reach values from zero to positive infinite only.

If the price is not going down, it means that it is not volatile. Moreover, in the crypto world where it is mostly decentralized, none can control the price. SO, it must have volatility. And the presence of volatility is used by the traders to earn profits.

https://www.macroption.com/can-volatility-be-negative/

I am also grateful to you for your article, the term negative volatility I came up with as a marketing ploy that draws attention to the problem of solving my project. Almost all participants rushed to defend volatility without paying attention to the project itself. The project itself solves the problem of making a crypto currency not only as a tool for traders playing on the stock exchange, but also as a reliable decentralized investment vehicle that is not subject to devaluation. Very few people paid attention to this aspect of the project.

http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html

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Quote from: Danslip on September 10, 2020, 07:13:38 PM

If the traders wanna make money, the market volatility will give them chance to take advantage of being right about the trades. In the case of no low volatility, the market price will draw a flat line which makes it boring to trade in the both long and short timeframes. Having a bias in the trade let the trader to make a trading decision but this bias can be a double-edged sword in the long term if the money management rules are ignored.

it happens because there are no good trades for that asset in the market. or indeed the trading volume is too low. for trade, looking for profits will be easily found on assets that have high trades. we can see it on some major exchanges.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 10, 2020, 07:06:46 PM

Do you know what means by "volatility?"

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liability to change rapidly and unpredictably, especially for the worse.

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Historical volatility, as well as implied volatility and volatility in general, can never be negative. In other words, it can reach values from zero to positive infinite only.

If the price is not going down, it means that it is not volatile. Moreover, in the crypto world where it is mostly decentralized, none can control the price. SO, it must have volatility. And the presence of volatility is used by the traders to earn profits.

https://www.macroption.com/can-volatility-be-negative/

Thank you for a very informative article showing the incompetence of the author of the thread in terms of the different directions of value movement. By the term negative volatility, he meant that the direction of the price vector can only go up or equal to zero, but never down. Is it possible?

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If the traders wanna make money, the market volatility will give them chance to take advantage of being right about the trades. In the case of no low volatility, the market price will draw a flat line which makes it boring to trade in the both long and short timeframes. Having a bias in the trade let the trader to make a trading decision but this bias can be a double-edged sword in the long term if the money management rules are ignored.

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Do you know what means by "volatility?"

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liability to change rapidly and unpredictably, especially for the worse.

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Historical volatility, as well as implied volatility and volatility in general, can never be negative. In other words, it can reach values from zero to positive infinite only.

If the price is not going down, it means that it is not volatile. Moreover, in the crypto world where it is mostly decentralized, none can control the price. SO, it must have volatility. And the presence of volatility is used by the traders to earn profits.

https://www.macroption.com/can-volatility-be-negative/

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You can create a coin which is completely decentralized or as a token which is decentralized or pegged to something like backed by gold or fiat value like USD.

But you can never create a coin which is completely decentralized and not as a stable but doesn't decrease its value all the time.

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I don't know if anything like that is actually possible. How can a coin go into stable form without volatility? Another thing is that there is no such thing as negative volatility, when the price of something goes up, we call it volatility. The value of a coin never increases throughout life, just as the value of a coin never decreases all time.

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Quote from: Bossfidelity on September 09, 2020, 06:06:30 AM

It would be awesome to have a coin that doesn't have negative volatility, but that would be impossible owing to the fact that volatility by its meaning is up and down movement in the value of the cryptocurrency. If there was no negative volatility, Crytocurrency would have be regarded as the best investment one can embark upon for maximum return without risk of losses.

Quite right, only the profitability of the acquisition gives rise in value. The absence of negative volatility does not mean that the coin always grows in price, it may not grow if it is not bought, but the trick of this coin is that it cannot become lower than the purchase price since it is minted by your real asset. For example, if you need to spend 100 bucks for the production of the first coin, and for the production of the next 110, it is unlikely that the price of the first will be cheaper than the second, and so on. The main thing is your real asset, and it is stored in this coin. This is what my project is about.

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Quote from: acdc on September 09, 2020, 09:22:08 AM

I like a coin with negative fluctuations.
The cryptocurrency market attracts people because of its volatility and through which smart people make money, if the market stands still people get nothing.
If people don't like the coin with negative movements I think they should choose a stabecoin or leave the cryptocurrency market.

if you choose a coin that has a price movement specification like that then it will make you lose because the price could collapse and crash, like some time ago a coin had a price drop until the project died and there was no further development and ended up losing all.

Show under what circumstances this project can die
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55161984

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Quote from: acdc on September 09, 2020, 09:22:08 AM

I like a coin with negative fluctuations.
The cryptocurrency market attracts people because of its volatility and through which smart people make money, if the market stands still people get nothing.
If people don't like the coin with negative movements I think they should choose a stabecoin or leave the cryptocurrency market.

if you choose a coin that has a price movement specification like that then it will make you lose because the price could collapse and crash, like some time ago a coin had a price drop until the project died and there was no further development and ended up losing all.

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I like a coin with negative fluctuations.
The cryptocurrency market attracts people because of its volatility and through which smart people make money, if the market stands still people get nothing.
If people don't like the coin with negative movements I think they should choose a stabecoin or leave the cryptocurrency market.

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Mostly we are need that kind of coins having no negative volatility. Absolutely having this are good and it must been added as good work in this field progress of the projects giving as positively outcome.6

That is obvious, but for now there are many projects whose development has been stunted so that the tokens they have launched have decreased volatility and caused negativity on their own volatility, I think that's the problem most projects are facing right now.

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It would be awesome to have a project that would be insured from negative volatility or losses in the cryptocurrency industry, the best we have for now is USDT and other stablecoin. I believe the stablecoin are prevented from having a negative volatility is some aspect or the extent of negative volatility is quite very slim.

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Quote from: Mauser on September 09, 2020, 06:56:25 AM

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Mostly we are need that kind of coins having no negative volatility. Absolutely having this are good and it must been added as good work in this field progress of the projects giving as positively outcome.6

Creating a coin without any negative volatility sounds a bit like utopia for me. The thing for many alt coins is that they are traded freely all around the world on multiple exchanges. Prices can go up or down due to supply and demand. In my opinion to restrict these price changes either the coins wouldn't be allowed to trade freely, so we need a central institution managing all the trade. Or having institutions actively trade on the market to cover big price swings. Both of these options could be exploited in my opinion in the long run

I agree with you, this is almost like a utopia, but let's figure out how it is minted and what is behind it and why it cannot devalue, and then it will become clear to you that this is really possible. Try to refute and prove that this is not so, while no one has yet been able to do this.
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html

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Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

1. Is it possible?
2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?

Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

Looking for a coin which keep growing all the day and never ever going to be in red right?

NO it is not possible to have such coin because the demand and supply determines the value of coin so when the coin having increase in demand the price will increase and vice versa.

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Quote from: Henrytrust on September 09, 2020, 05:47:16 AM

I'm yet to find a coin that doesn't have negative volatility. Every coin that has the ability to go up, would also be likely to drop. In fact that's a characteristic of the cryptocurrency market. The volatility is expected to be both negative and positive. The volatility has been the reason for traders making profit in the market.

Yes, and because volatility is something that everyone should consider, especially traders who are always active in the cryptocurrency market, so there is nothing wrong with making this an interesting discussion material in this forum.

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Mostly we are need that kind of coins having no negative volatility. Absolutely having this are good and it must been added as good work in this field progress of the projects giving as positively outcome.6

Creating a coin without any negative volatility sounds a bit like utopia for me. The thing for many alt coins is that they are traded freely all around the world on multiple exchanges. Prices can go up or down due to supply and demand. In my opinion to restrict these price changes either the coins wouldn't be allowed to trade freely, so we need a central institution managing all the trade. Or having institutions actively trade on the market to cover big price swings. Both of these options could be exploited in my opinion in the long run

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Quote from: Bossfidelity on September 09, 2020, 06:06:30 AM

It would be awesome to have a coin that doesn't have negative volatility, but that would be impossible owing to the fact that volatility by its meaning is up and down movement in the value of the cryptocurrency. If there was no negative volatility, Crytocurrency would have be regarded as the best investment one can embark upon for maximum return without risk of losses.

This is what I am trying to do with my project.

http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html

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It would be awesome to have a coin that doesn't have negative volatility, but that would be impossible owing to the fact that volatility by its meaning is up and down movement in the value of the cryptocurrency. If there was no negative volatility, Crytocurrency would have be regarded as the best investment one can embark upon for maximum return without risk of losses.

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