Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility? - page 5.

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For cryptocurrency there is always going to be volatility, that's part of it. Investors profit from those fluctuations

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If the cryptocurrency is considered as not a stable asset for playing on the stock exchange, then you are right, but then it is not suitable as a reliable currency that can be stored, which means that it will not be accepted as a reliable collateral and settlements on it.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 07, 2020, 05:42:17 AM

Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

1. Is it possible?
2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?

What do you mean by negative volatility? Volatility means the price will go up and down, but if you weigh the overall movement of bitcoin for instance, you can say it's positive especially for long term.

For other coins, it's hard to find that as if bitcoin is already volatile, altcoins are more volatile.

Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

There's no volatility for stable coins, so for sure this is not what you are trying to imply or ask.

You are right that stablecoins have no volatility, they have another drawback, they can be reset to zero, all Stablecoins that are allegedly provided by the "ghost of money" buried in an unknown place and whose action can be covered up at any time, as they are manually controlled and who is responsible for their release, is prohibited then personal responsibility.
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In fact, stable coins also experience the same thing.
Especially if it is a cryptocurrency where volatility is one of the basic characteristics. It's true as others have said, it will be difficult to get coins that are always on a positive trend, especially because the price really depends on the market. of course, the sell and buy orders will continue. And can you and want to buy and hold a coin without selling it? Someone will of course sell them, especially traders, where they take advantage of the volatility to get profits. Here, I haven't found any crypto that does not have negative volatility.

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I think thats very unlikely because trading law is not the case. When the demand for a coin goes up, the price will go up, and if there are many people selling at the same time the price will go down. Even a stable coin will still experience volatility according to current market condition. Watch the USDT price when the bitcoin price goes up and the bitcoin price goes down. So whatever your opinion is about a coin that doesnt have negative volatility, I think its very unlikely for the community to accept it. I would think its part of a scam with false promises.

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I think all your requirements are fulfilled by stablecoins so there is no reason to look out for a new sort of crypto coin that remains stable in price.
This need is already filled by stablecoins so no need of anything else at the moment. You should think of something different.

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A coin that does not fluctuate negatively can only be stable coins, typically USDT, USDC. Its liquidity in the last two years is always at 1usd. All coins can increase in price and decrease in price, you must buy and sell to ensure profit. It may be negative for you, but positive for others. Everyone has different investment strategies, and no one cryptocurrency is as stable and volatile as stable coins.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 07, 2020, 05:42:17 AM

Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

1. Is it possible?
2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?

What do you mean by negative volatility? Volatility means the price will go up and down, but if you weigh the overall movement of bitcoin for instance, you can say it's positive especially for long term.

For other coins, it's hard to find that as if bitcoin is already volatile, altcoins are more volatile.

Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

There's no volatility for stable coins, so for sure this is not what you are trying to imply or ask.

He obviously means my project http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
in which the ETH-WORLD token does not have negative volatility, but only positive volatility, which in turn has a positive effect (positive management) on the emission and volatility and, ultimately, the price of Ethereum itself

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Quote from: makishart on September 07, 2020, 05:58:01 AM

If you meant about less volatility and it's actually possible to happen as long as the coin was a bad coin and that means there will be no a lot of demand to buy such coin caused by people have known that as crap coins and no more. That will make such crypto will have no volatility consider the demand will be almost zero.

I can't understand properly about negative volatility means but for it it's about less volatile.

I think that's what he meant by "negative volatility".
It will still move, but less. More like a stable coin. But as he said, it will not be like that.
Cannot compare it with XRP too since it's volatile.

It is possible but I do think it's because there is manipulation behind the scenes.

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If you meant about less volatility and it's actually possible to happen as long as the coin was a bad coin and that means there will be no a lot of demand to buy such coin caused by people have known that as crap coins and no more. That will make such crypto will have no volatility consider the demand will be almost zero.

I can't understand properly about negative volatility means but for it it's about less volatile.

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Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

1. Is it possible?
2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?

What do you mean by negative volatility? Volatility means the price will go up and down, but if you weigh the overall movement of bitcoin for instance, you can say it's positive especially for long term.

For other coins, it's hard to find that as if bitcoin is already volatile, altcoins are more volatile.

Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

There's no volatility for stable coins, so for sure this is not what you are trying to imply or ask.

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In my project, the constant confident growth of the coin is implemented https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-project-to-help-make-ethereum-the-number-one-cryptocurrency-5267705 Tokens will grow only in one case if it is profitable for the ETH owner to place his financial asset in a deposit, receiving these tokens for this, while they will be able to earn by connecting those who wish and selling these tokens. It is important that ETH-WORLD tokens always grow in value, so they can simply be stored without fear of devaluation. It should be noted that you do not send your ETH to anyone, it remains blocked on the address of your wallet connected to the smart contract and no one except you can receive it.

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Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 05:06:06 AM

I mean a coin that has a steady growth in the quantity of ether, which I will keep as a safe deposit.

That's impossible, cryptocurrency or investment always have a risk. If you don't want to accept the risk because worried your investment will be in loss, don't try to invest then.

Gold has been exist for a long time, and still have a risk with it. While most of altcoins exist only 1-2 years, and you wanted to a coin give fixed amount profit. You'll only trapped on ponzi scheme project.

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Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 01:38:25 AM

2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?

Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

Not sure if this is possible. Not a stable coin but you want it to be stable with none volatility? Im not sure if that will work cause even we want that kind of coin or token we are probably looking on a stablecoin pegged with usd lile tether and usdc.

There is no way a green candle indicator coin all the way, its like next to impossible. But I witness like this called tweeba but that one is purely manipulated.

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Quote from: tsaroz on September 07, 2020, 04:30:03 AM

How would be a volatility be negative? If you mean very low volatility, for a such to coin exist, it should be pegged to an index of a lot of stable assets and currency. A coin that derives it's value from say a lot of fiat and commodities could be less volatile. The volatility also depends on what you compare it with. For anything with a supply and demand, there would be volatility.

I mean a coin that is minted by ether with a steady increase in the quantitative content of ether in it, which I will keep as a reliable deposit.

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Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 02:43:30 AM

Quote from: Akiko on September 07, 2020, 02:26:13 AM

Possible but its hard to happen you need to use a lot of money to use as buy orders so even there are bulk sellers the market will not be affected much. Also many traders see this volatile price of crypto currency as advantage to earn high profit with single price correction so volatility is not bad for them but a good way to earn good amount of money in short time.

Why is a stable growth coin bad?

yes it bad because in order to achieve this goal they need to manipulate the price of the coins and that's not his real value if they manipulate it and in long term no one will be interested to buy it since they know this is just a manipulated currency. many coins from before do that but no one achieve to make it successfull and mostly failed .

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How would be a volatility be negative? If you mean very low volatility, for a such to coin exist, it should be pegged to an index of a lot of stable assets and currency. A coin that derives it's value from say a lot of fiat and commodities could be less volatile. The volatility also depends on what you compare it with. For anything with a supply and demand, there would be volatility.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 07, 2020, 03:23:48 AM

I cannot see that any token/coin could adhere to those requirements under normal circumstances in a free and open market that are not being manipulated. Huh

How would this work?

The whole idea behind Crypto currencies are to remove the centralized control of entities and to create a open and free market that are based on supply and demand. Fiat currencies are stable, because governments are manipulating the "value" with the help of Central Banks and large private financial companies. Angry

Traders also need some volatility, because it creates a environment in which they can make profit on their trades. Wink

I started a survey because I saw a project in which they want to implement it
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-project-to-help-make-ethereum-the-number-one-cryptocurrency-5267705

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I cannot see that any token/coin could adhere to those requirements under normal circumstances in a free and open market that are not being manipulated. Huh

How would this work?

The whole idea behind Crypto currencies are to remove the centralized control of entities and to create a open and free market that are based on supply and demand. Fiat currencies are stable, because governments are manipulating the "value" with the help of Central Banks and large private financial companies. Angry

Traders also need some volatility, because it creates a environment in which they can make profit on their trades. Wink

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Quote from: elda34b on September 07, 2020, 02:53:32 AM

So in other words, green dildo candle all the way? I'm pretty sure anyone would love that but it is impossible since buy and sell will always happen. Unless you're running an auction and anyone who buy your tokens won't be able to sell it forever. What's the use of such thing then?

The promise looks like a scam to me, and only a scam coin will say yes to things like this.

Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 02:43:30 AM

Why is a stable growth coin bad?

Daily traders make profit from scalping.

Are you saying that if I buy this coin with steady growth and keep it as a safe deposit, it is bad because it cannot be sold later or it cannot be exchanged or only traded on the stock exchange?

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So in other words, green dildo candle all the way? I'm pretty sure anyone would love that but it is impossible since buy and sell will always happen. Unless you're running an auction and anyone who buy your tokens won't be able to sell it forever. What's the use of such thing then?

The promise looks like a scam to me, and only a scam coin will say yes to things like this.

Quote from: AIF on September 07, 2020, 02:43:30 AM

Why is a stable growth coin bad?

Daily traders make profit from scalping.

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