They are only getting the benefit all by themselves if what they did is a pure marketing so why would someone prefer it? it so sad that this site your talking about sacrifice the RTP only to get more money and use that money for marketing purposes. What can happen is old players will leave but they can pull a replacement when those newbies see the casino ads. They don't know that it was only a trap but they will soon realize this too.
I think that kind of casinos are greedy because they are not contented on what they currently have but they want more and as a result they do crazier things. They didn't know that this can only kill their businesses.
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One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there. 
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
Campaigns, promotions, partnerships, and collaborations with famous influencers would all be futile if the service quality offered will be compromised. Personally, I prefer having a decent experience with nice RTP because that's how you'll fully enjoy the game and the money you will place on a casino. Those partnerships and campaigns sure help them to encourage more customers or clients, but they better be sure that they are still providing the best services worth every penny. Because if not, clients will eventually lose interest and will have an urge to find a better casino offering what they are looking for.
It would be best if a casino would be able to balance the two. After all, it holds a factor in getting a client and making a client stay at the same time. It will just be up to them how they would do it.
I read every single reply in this thread and I can say that the majority of them prefer a more favorable RTP over promotions. Now, you can say that the reason for that is that most of those people are gamblers and it is natural for them to request for that, but I say... if a gambler have a nice experience and they receive value for their money... then they will gamble more at that casino.
You will not maintain you gamblers if you suck them dry with every session. There should be a very good balance between losing too much and winning too much at a casino. Imagine visiting a site every day with say a $100 deposit and you can only play for 10 minutes.... How long will it take for you to stop gambling at that site?
If that happens to me, 10 minutes is the time for me to stop gambling on that site, whatever the outcome. I will set the alarm for 10 minutes before I start playing and stop immediately after the alarm goes off and I will not try to deposit any other amount of money.You will not maintain you gamblers if you suck them dry with every session. There should be a very good balance between losing too much and winning too much at a casino. Imagine visiting a site every day with say a $100 deposit and you can only play for 10 minutes.... How long will it take for you to stop gambling at that site?
But I've never gambled on $100 because I can't take the risk if I lose that amount. I'd rather play small, maybe $20-$30 and play for 10-30 minutes. After that, I'll quit straight away and won't be back in a few days.
I read every single reply in this thread and I can say that the majority of them prefer a more favorable RTP over promotions. Now, you can say that the reason for that is that most of those people are gamblers and it is natural for them to request for that, but I say... if a gambler have a nice experience and they receive value for their money... then they will gamble more at that casino.
You will not maintain you gamblers if you suck them dry with every session. There should be a very good balance between losing too much and winning too much at a casino. Imagine visiting a site every day with say a $100 deposit and you can only play for 10 minutes.... How long will it take for you to stop gambling at that site?
You will not maintain you gamblers if you suck them dry with every session. There should be a very good balance between losing too much and winning too much at a casino. Imagine visiting a site every day with say a $100 deposit and you can only play for 10 minutes.... How long will it take for you to stop gambling at that site?
In my case, 99% of the time I only play poker, I prefer what makes me the most money but I don't have a choice.. The fiat poker houses have traditionally preferred to give rakeback as a way to attract players and keep those who already played on the site. Since 10 years ago or so, the rake went up and the rakeback was reduced. This was due to several factors: the Black Friday poker, regulations that entailed the payment of taxes and the compartmentalization of the market, and a tightening of the market because people know how to play more and more.
Nowadays, the rake is much higher than when I started and they give much less rakeback but all the houses always give some rakeback for promotions. I wouldn't mind playing on a site that didn't give rakeback but where the rake was lower than the sum of rakeback minus rake where I currently play.
Nowadays, the rake is much higher than when I started and they give much less rakeback but all the houses always give some rakeback for promotions. I wouldn't mind playing on a site that didn't give rakeback but where the rake was lower than the sum of rakeback minus rake where I currently play.
I think that a good RTP is important for a casino to keep their existing players happy and engaged. If the RTP is too low that players will go bust too fast and leave the casino. There should always be a way to make our money back. So if I had to choose between promotions and RTP I would go with higher RTP. The problem here is of course that casino profit margins will be lower and with less money spend on advertising less new players join the casino. The promotions through the advertising campaign might be only for new players, which is a bit sad. Maybe to compensate the lower RTP the casinos could include existing players into their promotions.
I don't have too much money regarding with gambling so it's not quite ideal for me with the system of the RTP but still, this is a good marketing thing to the gambling platform because it's better to have a lot of players because of different promotions and rate back to their players. Some of the platforms with the highest RTP has the most players.
Of course I preffer Better RTP. I don't play slots but I like to play In-House games. Dice, Roulette, Mines, Crash for example. I like Dice most because most of the casinos offer a 1% House edge on Dice games. If a casino increases the house edge for dice games, I won't play there anymore even if they offer better service.
Take Cryptoplay.io for example, They offer a daily Wager contest, Weekly Contest, and monthly contest. But, There are a lot of casinos doesn't have these types of wager contests. Still, I won't play on Cryptoplay because their Dice game has lower RTP than others.
Take Cryptoplay.io for example, They offer a daily Wager contest, Weekly Contest, and monthly contest. But, There are a lot of casinos doesn't have these types of wager contests. Still, I won't play on Cryptoplay because their Dice game has lower RTP than others.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Better RTP is good and its one of the reason why gamblers are staying on the casino. Hence, if they cant have better RTP, then they cant expect the gamblers to stay. On the other side promotion is one of the effective strategy of the casino to attract potential gamblers but it should be balance that the players are seeing their casino with better RTP plus good promotion. If possible both are necessary. 
First, how did you know that the reduction of RTP is due to these new projects?
Anyway, it is expected that gamblers are to side with a better gambling experience. They're gamblers. They're there to gamble. What would they benefit from all these promotions, campaigns, and sponsorships?
It is ironic that casinos will sacrifice gambling experience for the sake of saving money that would be spent for marketing. What is there to market if they are already sacrificing the well-loved features of their casino? The gamblers are their sources of revenue. They treat them well, they will earn more. They treat them poorly, they will earn less.
If this is true, this decision by the casino will definitely backfire.
Anyway, it is expected that gamblers are to side with a better gambling experience. They're gamblers. They're there to gamble. What would they benefit from all these promotions, campaigns, and sponsorships?
It is ironic that casinos will sacrifice gambling experience for the sake of saving money that would be spent for marketing. What is there to market if they are already sacrificing the well-loved features of their casino? The gamblers are their sources of revenue. They treat them well, they will earn more. They treat them poorly, they will earn less.
If this is true, this decision by the casino will definitely backfire.
So based on the feedback that I received from you guys so far, it seems that most people would prefer that the RTP must be the primary focus of the casino, to improve the gambler experience.
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Well, there were several, but a user explained it well, I think you are giving the discussion the appropriate turn and with the appropriate promptness, but some are still in RTP mode
...//:::Now, what can we as gamblers do to get the casino operators to give more attention to the gambling experience?
Nowadays there are a lot of recreational players, the reasons are already known and that trail still remains, we live in a time when casinos know it and the frequent player has a diatribe with the proposal of his idea marketing vs RTP, but not the recreational player, sometimes does not even understand what the RTP is or if the house wins x%, what interests him is a very large neon sign with the letters "promotions here every day, etc".If you are a frequent player, look for the casinos where they appreciate your wager, there are, there are casinos that always handle that very well, that of the players who are there and those who arrive, and if you like the other casino so much, return when you understand that it is the Right now, it sounds like a love story, but it's actually a money story.
If there's no other choice and it's only one, majority is going to choose better RTP.
But if it's both and there's no need to choose any of them, all of us are going to agree that lots of promotions is good for the sake not just of the casino but also the stability of it.
More gamblers coming in means that you can have a peace of mind that they stay on the track and operate longer.
But if it's both and there's no need to choose any of them, all of us are going to agree that lots of promotions is good for the sake not just of the casino but also the stability of it.
More gamblers coming in means that you can have a peace of mind that they stay on the track and operate longer.
It depends on the promotion, Usually promotion has requirements that almost impossible to meet such as x50 wagering requirements and above. Only sportsbet and its subsidiaries casino that offers a promotion that only requires one-time bet on the bonus amount. A better RTP is mich better for a player that doing gambling basis because they have a high chance to win oer bet due to improved chance rate. I noticed recently that most of the live show games nerfed there RTP dow to 95% and below which is very alarming and so boring to play.
But as for the promotions, it's also one thing that many gamblers like. It will depend on the type of promotion that they do, if it's achievable and the prizes are high.
I'm sure that even the requirements are quite hard and needs a high wagering requirement, there will still be a lot of participants for it. Especially those that has the budget to spend and they know that they'll get a return afterwards upon joining and hitting the prize.
.... Now, I am not going to say which site it is....
I do not really play a lot of casino games so I can't really choose whether more promotions or RTP but a player like you should let them know what you think of the situation. Tell them in private if you want. They should be able to listen to commumity feedback if they are that popular as you portray them to be. 
One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there.
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
I would picked both. Marketing is needed, as we can see it is effective in all kinds of business. The company should not go overboard or it will lead to leaving the services' performance a thumbs down. They could manage to have promotions at the same time give the best to their consumers. Maybe lessen in the promotions to half and boost the RTP for the meantime to make people stay, they can do it in a versatile way depending on the situation, or where the attention is needed the most.
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Gamblers want to see their favorite casino launching a marketing campaign, gambling promotion is proof that the casino is working its way to the top, there's a plan for expansion, but they also want to play in a casino with better RTP, it's possible that both exist in a casino so they can attract a lot of fo players, gamblers will not leave a casino if they have a better feature like RTP.
Different people does have different preference when it comes to RTP whether they do stick out with low or high ones. Give them both options since we know there are providers with slots
on having these properties.Therefore, both things could be done if they are able to do so.
Although you did not mention the name of the casino but I'm pretty sure that I know which casino you are talking about since you have posted similar thing on their ANN thread few times.
In this case, I do prefer the promotion than RTP as I do like promotion a lot especially +EV promotion where there is a great chance to make some money with less risk.
I do think like this because RTP for me is just a number, it does not affect my luck while gambling although I have better chance of winning with higher RTP.
In this case, I do prefer the promotion than RTP as I do like promotion a lot especially +EV promotion where there is a great chance to make some money with less risk.
I do think like this because RTP for me is just a number, it does not affect my luck while gambling although I have better chance of winning with higher RTP.
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One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there.
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
It is commonly said that a good business advertises itself, and from research, the best form of advertising is friends bringing their friends.The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
And we all know that before a friend would introduce a gambling site to another friend or friends, there must be something really interesting and unique about that particular game site, so this is why it is better for casinos to spend that much money in making thier casino the best and also provide the best services to their customers so that this customers will have a good experience with that casino, this way, this customers wil be encouraged to introduce that casino to their friends who will in turn become customers too,.
Good casinos knows how to balance between marketing and user experience, they don't sacrifice one for the other, a good casino should know how balance this two, make their customers happy as well as market their product out there, making their customers happy is also part of marketing like I've explained above.
One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there.
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
Gamblers want to see their favorite casino launching a marketing campaign, gambling promotion is proof that the casino is working its way to the top, there's a plan for expansion, but they also want to play in a casino with better RTP, it's possible that both exist in a casino so they can attract a lot of fo players, gamblers will not leave a casino if they have a better feature like RTP.
I always prefer casinos with lots of different bonuses and promotions,casinos where every single bet counts toward an objective,for example many of the reputable casinos give you tiers in which you can upgrade,some use forever option once you reach a level,some reset these levels every month,of course I prefer those with the forever option as they don't force me to play every single month.
RTP should not deteriorate because of such events,they should keep the levels of RTP the same to keep players happy otherwise many players will quit in favor of other casinos and what is the point of these promotions in the first place.
RTP should not deteriorate because of such events,they should keep the levels of RTP the same to keep players happy otherwise many players will quit in favor of other casinos and what is the point of these promotions in the first place.
You have a point here. Most of the casino has a good RTP that's why they have players and the promotions is just another thing to keep the players happy and active in the gambling site and if the RTP is bad then they won't be having any players in the first place.
One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there.
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.
Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?
Let's discuss...
I always prefer casinos with lots of different bonuses and promotions,casinos where every single bet counts toward an objective,for example many of the reputable casinos give you tiers in which you can upgrade,some use forever option once you reach a level,some reset these levels every month,of course I prefer those with the forever option as they don't force me to play every single month.
RTP should not deteriorate because of such events,they should keep the levels of RTP the same to keep players happy otherwise many players will quit in favor of other casinos and what is the point of these promotions in the first place.
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