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legendary
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Do you really believe that Bitcoin will hit 1,000,000

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If inflation occurs and or long in the future when were about to die or have already died
Say 60 to 80 years from now that said probably not
Unless we count in a weak currency
legendary
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Do you really believe that Bitcoin will hit 1,000,000

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We already have 13,000,000.  I guess I don't understand your question. 
legendary
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Ok...imagination ON
After certain point in future, when BTC acceptance is spread enough, fiat will start to dissapear as noone will want to use it. It will become exactly what it is now, useless piece of paper that noone wants. Some short time before that point, 1 BTC will be worth 1,000,000 dollars, but it wont stop there, it will continue to slide (value of fiat) that it will become 1000000000 etc. untill it becomes 0 as noone will want ANY fiat whatsoever.
So comapring BTC to $$$ after certain point is useless. Like comparing BTC to dirt. What would you say, how much dirt does 1 btc cost? 1 kilo? 10000 kilo?...it's 0 as noone will sell any BTC for dirt..ther's enough of it around.
If BTC gets to 1m per coin, fiat as we know it will dissapear adn you wont be able to compare those two.
Imagination OFF

Don't you think some alts would become also important?
Maybe different coins will have different advantages and people will trade between them.

There will always be some kind of market for alt-coins, but they are just feeding off of the innovation of Bitcoin and really do not add anything of value to the table. 

and no.

NXT and Peercoin are quite different to BTC, even Ripple is quite different (though has a serious UNL issue)
legendary
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Do you really believe that Bitcoin will hit 1,000,000

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Not before a period of huge economic growth or hyper-inflation.

Assuming 21 million bitcoin in circulation and a price of one million dollars for one bitcoin then the market cap of Bitcoin would be 21 thousand trillion dollars. As per google the current GDP of the world is ~98 trillion dollars today.

your maths is way out

1T = 10^12

21M = 21*10^6

21M * 1M = 21^6*10^6 = 21*10E^12 = 21T

not 21 10^24 which is the fugure you gave 21 thousand trillion, rather you only need 21T.

Also remeber that BTC is buying power not GPD and GPD accumulates ever year so over 10 years you have 980T. 21T buying power in that is very doable, only about 5%.
sr. member
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I think it is possible and in a short time frame, why

well the shear amount of money wasted by GOV and BANKS every day is staggering and easily $21 T a year or over a few years.

This much value is left on the table and BTC can catch most of it.

What do government budgets have to do with Bitcoin and how can Bitcoin catch that money exactly? Not to mention that most governments' budgets are in deficit, the expenses cuts are under way on most urgent social needs and those cuts provoke social unrest. Of course, a lot of bureaucracy could be shrinked, but you must be out of your mind to think it would be shrinked and that money spent on Bitcoin. On what planet do you guys live? Governments don't work that way Grin Crypto currencies are direct enemies of fiat, make no mistake, this flirting with 'allowing' crypto currencies in some 'liberal' western countries is just that, flirting. They will ban it overnight if the need arises.
legendary
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I think it is possible and in a short time frame, why

well the shear amount of money wasted by GOV and BANKS every day is staggering and easily $21 T a year or over a few years.

This much value is left on the table and BTC can catch most of it.

The only caveat being it may not be BTC that does it rather and Alt like PeerCoin or NXT may do it in the long run (re my formative views on mining).

5 years out from now I would not be surprised to see BTC in the 300K ~ 1 M range. In fact I would be more suprised if it was not in this range.


Further you wont "see" hyper inflation, rather you wages will continually drop versus cost of living, while the bare minimum, will be just affordable. Case in point we are already in hyper inflation its just your used to it. BTC is holding value and eating GOV/Banking waste.
sr. member
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Where would the money come from?  Wall Street ETF's, large companies adopting it, use world-wide, just to name a few things.

My point is that the order of magnitude from pennies to $1000 is less than $650 to $1,000,000 so in theory it should be possible.  But yes, it will take more cash but there are way more players in the game too.

I am not that optimistic. Large investment funds are regulated by governments, there are strict rules what they can invest in, I don't believe they will ever be allowed to invest in crypto currencies, because crypto currencies is a direct enemy to governments' fiat currencies. Don't overestimate that California governor's legislation, that law doesn't mean investment funds are allowed to invest into Bitcoin, far from it.

Large companies selling stuff for Bitcoins sell Bitcoins back for cash which they need to cover their expenses, so they are a non-event.

China has the largest savings rate in the world, but China banned Bitcoin, and the western world's savings rate is negative, meaning there are more debts than savings. India, another country with a high savings rate, loves gold on their women, they won't embrace Bitcoin on a large scale either.

So I just don't see where that kind of demand would come from. The only way it can go to $1 mln. is a hyperinflationary scenario, but that million wouldn't go a long way in that scenario.
legendary
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Going from pennies to over a $1000 per coin is a bigger jump than going from $650 to $1,000,000.

Why is that?

Going to $1000 required hundreds of millions, perhaps a couple of billions of $$$ of buying support (only some part of Bitcoins is for sale, not the whole market cap), which could be done by a relatively small group of enthusiasts (thousands of tech geeks and tech savvy small investors).

Going to $1000 000 will require hundreds of billions up to trillions of $$$. Where would that kind of money come from?

Where would the money come from?  Wall Street ETF's, large companies adopting it, use world-wide, just to name a few things.

My point is that the order of magnitude from pennies to $1000 is less than $650 to $1,000,000 so in theory it should be possible.  But yes, it will take more cash but there are way more players in the game too.
sr. member
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Going from pennies to over a $1000 per coin is a bigger jump than going from $650 to $1,000,000.

Why is that?

Going to $1000 required hundreds of millions, perhaps a couple of billions of $$$ of buying support (only some part of Bitcoins has been for sale, not the whole market cap), which could be done by a relatively small group of enthusiasts (thousands of tech geeks and tech savvy small investors).

Going to $1000 000 will require hundreds of billions up to trillions of $$$. Where would that kind of money come from?
legendary
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In reality we all do not know.  Is it possible?  I would say yes.  Going from pennies to over a $1000 per coin is a bigger jump than going from $650 to $1,000,000.  So why not?  But we do not know how wide spread the adoption will be yet. 

All this said, my advice to anyone and everyone is to at least hold 1 BTC for 10 years or so to find out!!  Grin
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I think to see $1000 or a bit more by the end of the year is more likely.
legendary
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I do not think that it is necessary for the dollar to crash in order for BTC to reach many thousands of dollars each.  A million dollars each (no hyperinflation)?  Ahh, well I don't know enough to offer a good opinion.

Gold will likely do very well too.  As the "paper gold" burns, the real (physical gold in your own possession) will likely do very well.

Gold and BTC compliment each other very well.  Maybe we will see both knocking on $55,000...

 Smiley   Smiley
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It's possible, if :

1. Huge inflation USD
2. All people accept bitcoin  Cool
But it still having the same real value than today don't it ?

1 current Bitcoin / 650 valuable dollars   =   1 future Bitcoin / 1 000 000 useless green bills
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It's unlikely it will hit $10 000. Sure, under a hyperinflationary scenario, should/when it happens, when a loaf of bread will cost $300, bitcoin can hit a million, but who would care about dollars then.

Totally agree with that! It is very possible that BTc hit 10000$, but in my opinion it will be a consecutive bubble and it will go back to 1000$. But right now i am seeing big drop to 300-400 for some weeks. Only my opinion..
BR
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Over the long run the return on bitcoin will likely greatly exceed the rate of inflation

It will likely and has done much better then that.
sr. member
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It's unlikely it will hit $10 000. Sure, under a hyperinflationary scenario, should/when it happens, when a loaf of bread will cost $300, bitcoin can hit a million, but who would care about dollars then.

Totally agree with that! It is very possible that BTc hit 10000$, but in my opinion it will be a consecutive bubble and it will go back to 1000$. But right now i am seeing big drop to 300-400 for some weeks. Only my opinion..
BR
Gondel

Over the long run the return on bitcoin will likely greatly exceed the rate of inflation
legendary
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It's unlikely it will hit $10 000. Sure, under a hyperinflationary scenario, should/when it happens, when a loaf of bread will cost $300, bitcoin can hit a million, but who would care about dollars then.

Totally agree with that! It is very possible that BTc hit 10000$, but in my opinion it will be a consecutive bubble and it will go back to 1000$. But right now i am seeing big drop to 300-400 for some weeks. Only my opinion..
BR
Gondel
legendary
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Well hello there!
If it does we will be paying $150 for a loaf of bread so we will certainly need our million dollar bitcoins!
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A better question might be is How much do you think bitcoin prices will go up compared to the value of the dollar on june 13,2014   It could go up to trillions theoretically if the dollar's value dropped enough. It wouldn’t mean much as far as the value.

Steve
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Ok...imagination ON
After certain point in future, when BTC acceptance is spread enough, fiat will start to dissapear as noone will want to use it. It will become exactly what it is now, useless piece of paper that noone wants. Some short time before that point, 1 BTC will be worth 1,000,000 dollars, but it wont stop there, it will continue to slide (value of fiat) that it will become 1000000000 etc. untill it becomes 0 as noone will want ANY fiat whatsoever.
So comapring BTC to $$$ after certain point is useless. Like comparing BTC to dirt. What would you say, how much dirt does 1 btc cost? 1 kilo? 10000 kilo?...it's 0 as noone will sell any BTC for dirt..ther's enough of it around.
If BTC gets to 1m per coin, fiat as we know it will dissapear adn you wont be able to compare those two.
Imagination OFF

Don't you think some alts would become also important?
Maybe different coins will have different advantages and people will trade between them.

There will always be some kind of market for alt-coins, but they are just feeding off of the innovation of Bitcoin and really do not add anything of value to the table. 
hero member
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Ok...imagination ON
After certain point in future, when BTC acceptance is spread enough, fiat will start to dissapear as noone will want to use it. It will become exactly what it is now, useless piece of paper that noone wants. Some short time before that point, 1 BTC will be worth 1,000,000 dollars, but it wont stop there, it will continue to slide (value of fiat) that it will become 1000000000 etc. untill it becomes 0 as noone will want ANY fiat whatsoever.
So comapring BTC to $$$ after certain point is useless. Like comparing BTC to dirt. What would you say, how much dirt does 1 btc cost? 1 kilo? 10000 kilo?...it's 0 as noone will sell any BTC for dirt..ther's enough of it around.
If BTC gets to 1m per coin, fiat as we know it will dissapear adn you wont be able to compare those two.
Imagination OFF

Don't you think some alts would become also important?
Maybe different coins will have different advantages and people will trade between them.
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