Do you think Bitcoin could bring about world peace? - page 4.

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Quote from: unamis76 on August 04, 2015, 01:49:31 PM

It can't bring peace... But it can definitely help mitigate minor conflicts and doubts about money usage by big companies/governments.

Yeah, I agree, don't see how it could bring peace, but the transparency could indeed bring clarity about money usage by big companies.
Only if Bitcoin evolves into something more than it is now, I'd still consider Bitcoin something -not ready for the public/masses- due to the learning curve involved with figuring out how to use bitcoin.

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I don't see how these two are connected or could be connected !!! Undecided

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if cryptocurrencies someday dissolve nation states, it could end war profiteering.
So yes, I think it could theoretically do so. But probably not in my lifetime.

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Im not sure if it could bring literally "world peace", but it could surely stop governments from funding illegal wars and endless corruption which returns in war. If goverment was under a transparency policy where the public money was always seen on the blockchain all of the corruption would be vanished. Things like this are the positive aspects of BTC that can make for a better ran society.

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Hm, interesting responses! I think some people are looking at the question a little too literally, and that might be my fault for how I phrased it in the post title. I think what Casserly was saying in that quote is that inventions like Bitcoin could bring about world peace - not just Bitcoin on its own. I believe she was referring to any & all future inventions that place power (or simply freedom) back in the hands of the citizens.

From the quote: "alternative systems of logic that can be controlled by people who are adding value, not by people who are using the system to manipulate others"

Do you think that systems LIKE Bitcoin could bring us closer to world peace? Or is it still a completely unattainable idea no matter what, as long as humans are around?

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no. abseloutely no. why?
we know world peace just not about the money, but about heart, religion, people, argumentation.
and ego one person and each other...
everyone doesnt need money too, but happynest too.. real life is an important to thinks... and education,,

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Quote from: Hopalong on August 04, 2015, 04:38:38 PM

Quote from: coincafeinc on August 04, 2015, 03:05:52 PM

Quote from: Hopalong on August 04, 2015, 02:38:18 PM

Since the distribution of bitcoin is more unfair than any other currency it is more likely to create more wars. It is a pure rich get richer scheme and someday the poor regions of the world have had enough of it.

What are your thoughts on a solution to this issue? Do you believe that there is one?

There is a solution to all problems but are we who are born in the rich part of the world willing to sacrifice a lot of our wealth? Most people on the earth today dont have computers and are left out of modern economy. Both fiat and crypto. A new currency makes no difference to them.

We are seeing some signs of what the future will bring with all the refugees coming in to Europe now. More and more will come and if we stop them they might use force to get in.

If a new crypto currency should be able to help people to get a better life and redistribute wealth it would have to be made different. No high payouts to the early adapters like the way bitcoin was. That only make a very few people rich and the rest has to fight over scraps.

If you give people free money they will crash the economy. Source: Auroracoin. The Bitcoin model is better because it rewards people that took high risks. What poor countries need is getting based resources covered and getting banked with Bitcoin so they can develop into something productive.

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Quote from: TheSignsGuy on August 04, 2015, 03:26:59 PM

Not really, but if governments used BTC (which will never be IMHO) we could possibly "follow the money" and learn a lot about what is really happening in regard to world conflicts.
Who profits, etc....

This is a really interesting idea to me, and it would be fascinating if it did play out this way in the future. Thanks for bringing up this point! Definitely something to think about...

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Quote from: coincafeinc on August 04, 2015, 03:05:52 PM

Quote from: Hopalong on August 04, 2015, 02:38:18 PM

Since the distribution of bitcoin is more unfair than any other currency it is more likely to create more wars. It is a pure rich get richer scheme and someday the poor regions of the world have had enough of it.

What are your thoughts on a solution to this issue? Do you believe that there is one?

There is a solution to all problems but are we who are born in the rich part of the world willing to sacrifice a lot of our wealth? Most people on the earth today dont have computers and are left out of modern economy. Both fiat and crypto. A new currency makes no difference to them.

We are seeing some signs of what the future will bring with all the refugees coming in to Europe now. More and more will come and if we stop them they might use force to get in.

If a new crypto currency should be able to help people to get a better life and redistribute wealth it would have to be made different. No high payouts to the early adapters like the way bitcoin was. That only make a very few people rich and the rest has to fight over scraps.

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I am not convinced that Bitcoin by itself can bring about world peace. At most, a truly anonymous cryptocurrency and/or Blockchain application might make it easier for people to move assets in a way that's harder for governments to detect and seize (the most recent case I've heard of being $205,000 in cash seized from a rapper called Snoop Dogg.)

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Not really, but if governments used BTC (which will never be IMHO) we could possibly "follow the money" and learn a lot about what is really happening in regard to world conflicts.
Who profits, etc....

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No, I think that bitcoin can bring about financial freedom.
World peace is something else entirely, and does not depend on material things or finances.
The main reasons for the wars in history were completely different: the fight for the territory of others, ideological conflicts or religious / racial hatred.
I don't think that bitcoin can help with that.

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In answer to the OP - no! I doubt we'll ever have world peace. Not in my lifetime any way. There are too many violent groups of people fighting for power & too many lunatics seduced by religion, false prophets & God's. The world is a mess & that's one thing that bitcoin (money) won't be able to change.

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Quote from: gentlemand on August 04, 2015, 01:22:49 PM

When Bitcoin is primarily used by machines and they use the funds to wipe us out and replace us with androids, then we'll have world peace. Until then it'll change nothing at a primal level.

lol yes, that sounds about right.. Cheesy

Hmm... it really does. Embarrassed

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Quote from: coincafeinc on August 04, 2015, 03:05:52 PM

Quote from: Hopalong on August 04, 2015, 02:38:18 PM

Since the distribution of bitcoin is more unfair than any other currency it is more likely to create more wars. It is a pure rich get richer scheme and someday the poor regions of the world have had enough of it.

What are your thoughts on a solution to this issue? Do you believe that there is one?

the distribution is not the fault of the protocol. its the fault of users handing the funds to central parties (exchanges) who then reach a point where they get so greedy they fake a hack and keep it..

no protocol can stop greed

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Quote from: Hopalong on August 04, 2015, 02:38:18 PM

Since the distribution of bitcoin is more unfair than any other currency it is more likely to create more wars. It is a pure rich get richer scheme and someday the poor regions of the world have had enough of it.

What are your thoughts on a solution to this issue? Do you believe that there is one?

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 04, 2015, 02:43:50 PM

Quote from: ikydesu on August 04, 2015, 01:44:22 PM

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Agree. Peoples are too easily provoked, especially about religion.

I agree a little bit about the religion part. Remember the times when the Christians are battling against the Muslims in the so-called "Holy Crusade"? They are fighting for their faith, when in reality they can still be living side by side and respect each other's faith. Utter nonsense in today's standards, but it is written in history. Nowadays, faith is almost set aside as being one of the reasons of a war. The most reasons for a war to break are money, territory, and resources. If you want to survive, you need to have territory and resources, and to accommodate a nation's growing population, you must either reduce the supplies you give to your citizens or you find something in which you can gather more resources to cater your citizen's needs, and that's one of the reasons I can think of why nations turn to war.

lol holy crusade wasnt religious either.. neither was the battles in ireland done by the IRA.. it was all about a land grab.. the only reason people say its about religion is because they highlight the differences so that it separates them from the other side to not feel empathy as they steal the land.

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Quote from: ikydesu on August 04, 2015, 01:44:22 PM

-snip-
Agree. Peoples are too easily provoked, especially about religion.

I agree a little bit about the religion part. Remember the times when the Christians are battling against the Muslims in the so-called "Holy Crusade"? They are fighting for their faith, when in reality they can still be living side by side and respect each other's faith. Utter nonsense in today's standards, but it is written in history. Nowadays, faith is almost set aside as being one of the reasons of a war. The most reasons for a war to break are money, territory, and resources. If you want to survive, you need to have territory and resources, and to accommodate a nation's growing population, you must either reduce the supplies you give to your citizens or you find something in which you can gather more resources to cater your citizen's needs, and that's one of the reasons I can think of why nations turn to war.

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Quote from: futureofbitcoin on August 04, 2015, 02:07:52 PM

Quote from: franky1 on August 04, 2015, 01:29:22 PM

wars and battles were never about money..
its about the idiots in control who order people to fight other people for natural resources

But natural resources IS money...

bitcoin is not some magical cure to all of the world's problems. It's silly to even contemplate that bitcoin could bring about world peace.

money is the government controlled stuff.. (fiat)
but
commodities, assets, natural resources can be classed as currency.. not money

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