Topic: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? - page 43. (Read 10663 times)

This is just a speculation, our scientists are on the race for the vaccine, after the vaccine is finish and distributed we can all go back to our normal life and live the way we want to live just like what we have known before, speculating something like this will not help, the virus is not a scam it's real.

It is true, in my country, with the facts that I know and can be very trusted, there have been many victims who have fallen even to the point where medical personnel who clearly use complete equipment every day can become victims. I don't understand that this is something that is taken lightly.

Do you think COVID19 is a scam?


It all depends on the definition one uses for the word Covid19. If the definition has to do with a virus - big fat scam!

They're using it as some kind of corruption to steal some budgets from the national governments like what they do here in our city. It was last June when they announce hundreds of inmates are positive to this CoVid-19 and after 3 weeks they announced again that they all got cured and show negative in swab test. as in all of those guys are negative now, How in the world is that? I mean they just became positive and suddenly they all test negative, all of them? seriously they can make other reasons, I mean they could have made the half is now negative and after a few weeks they announce the other half is negative. from what they have said, It just doesn't make sense to me.

I don’t think COVID19 is a scandal because it has spread all over the world and people in all countries have suffered a lot. Everything from business to educational institutions is closed how can it be a scam if it is usually done for the protection of the general public. Not everything has been introduced in many countries yet although business was limited it did not allow the opening of recreation centers and educational institutions for the protection of young children. People are constantly thinking of surviving by fighting the virus.

I don't know a single person in my environment who remembers the virus. I myself forgot about this virus back in April. In my opinion, everyone has long understood that this is a global deception to manipulate people. There are too many facts and overlaps. Even my most skeptical friends understand that this is not an epidemic but a masquerade.

All tyrants who trampled on constitutional freedoms with "emergency powers" should face the wrath of the sheople.These fine citizens below look promising.Is that a baseball bat being used for a flag pole?  

When this passes (or the thing that follows it if it doesn't), it will be very interesting to see what the Feds do. The population is well under 2 million, so there can be easier communication between the people.

Note that the video at the linked site at the bottom, below, isn't a Youtube video. Much safer that way.

Note that Ammon Bundy is using his clout (from standing up to the Feds in Oregon), with the Idaho public that is even more anti-Fed than Oregon, to protest with friends - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ammon-bundy-arrested-after-refusing-to-obey-idaho-statehouse-meeting-rules/ar-BB18n7cp.


BREAKING: Idaho’s House of Representatives Votes to End Coronavirus Emergency EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY

So is any seasonal ailment.  Flu, cold, etc.

The end of many or most people's lives come when their bodies are weakened from old age and something comes along which puts them over the edge.  e.g., chest cold --> pneumonia --> death.  Sad, but that's how it works.  Always has, and always will (...irrespective of the trans-humanist utopian fairytales about uploading you consciousness to the Borg.)

In my English speaking SE Asian country we would anticipate about 300,000 deaths so far this year.  They are claiming the 'covid-19' deaths at 3000, but like everywhere else most of the people who actually died are elderly.  A graph showing the difference between a 'natural' 300,000 against the 'unnatural' 303,000 would show a bump which cannot even be seen.

This thing is a scam.  A 'mind virus' spread by non-stop psychological operations broadcast non-stop over the airwaves by the mainstream media which is owned across the board by the same 0.001% who own the monetary system.  The debt-backed monetary system which is not sustainable in steady-state and needs periodic 'resets'.

The more it becomes clear what sort of a scam this is, the more people close their eyes tight and seek the loving arms of Big Brother.  Something like the plandemic was anticipated by people like moi.  What I did not anticipate was that it would be a hoax, and even more surprising to me is that as obvious evidence of the fraudulent nature becomes crystal clear, people would react by doubling down and following to a tee the increasingly absurd directives (e.g., wear a mask for video conferencing!)  And also that it would be so easy to start people out by a three-week 'flatten the curve' promise then gently guide them to an expectation of years of house arrest and have them buy it.  Never bet against the AI simulations using 'rational agents' fed with data from Google, Facebook, etc.

This has shaken the global economy and you're saying covid-19 a scam lol 😹 I don't think you should take covid19 that lightly.

It's obviously not a "scam" and it is very dangerous virus for elderly and people with some health issues.

Keep in mind that most of politicians, decision makers and people in power are the elderly people.

If you are rich and has been in a powerful position the covid is not going to do anything, but if you are poor the covid is going to kill you that is how these things are going.Covid is real but they are doing business in a huge scale by using this fear among the people.

I don't think it's a scam but all the fuss around it is.
States are ending financial support for vulnerable populations in favor of covid. But these funds are clearly not going to hospitals and treatment. In my country, boarding schools for children from disfunctional families were closed. The children were practically kicked out into the street. Aren't children more important than imaginary fighting the virus?

Irish TV channel RTE is known among it's citizens as the Irish "PRAVDA". "SARS-CoV-2" virus has been the best mechanism to date allowing the masses to accept the "new normal" .Lockdowns will get more harsh and methods more brutal where dissent arises against the "masterplan" although the mention of "Irish" has just reminded me of something I saw earlier.It seems some of the unbrainwashed members of the Irish public have got bored from staying inside.It seems they don't take kindly to ANTIFA members interrupting their protests either.








Note: Covid-19 is NOT the name of any Virus.It is the name of a framework centered around the SARS-CoV-2 virus with end game for this "phase" being the certificate of identification and vaccination with artificial intelligence through "BEAST" system(Yes it really is called "BEAST" system)

Your thinking is exactly what I mean. You assume that these others did more than look at the report.

If we were talking about the fractals in a snowflake, or the number of pollen dust particles on the wings of a butterfly, or how many water spiders are sitting on the pond... who cares?

What are we talking about? We are talking about the lives of people and whole economies of nations. Isn't this something that should go beyond assumptions?

Where is the nitty-gritty of what is for-a-fact real? It doesn't seem to be written in the reports. Yet we throw our lives on these people, trusting in them and their veracity. Isn't it about time that we factually find out if our trust is placed on reality, or if it is only a story at its base?

The first paper, the 'Isolation of Virus' and 'Transmission Electron Microscopy' sections.

I would say that if a paper has been cited 7,000 times, then it's unlikely the paper is wrong, because it means that thousands of different experts have followed up with thousands of other experiments that corroborate and build on the results of the first. This is how science progresses, building on what has gone before. I kind of understand your point, but we have to an extent to assume that experts are experts, if all (or almost all) other experts agree with them. Everything is there to be disproven... but if there is no countervailing evidence, then I think that is a strong indication that the paper's conclusions are correct. We can argue that a paper is incorrect, but I think we are on shakier ground if we try to argue that 7,000 follow-up papers have been written by 7,000 'experts' who are actually incompetent fools.

Here is the interesting thing about the reports you cited. And thank you for following up.

None of these reports talks about filtration of the substance/fluid extracted. And that's just for starters. Where's the centrifugal section?

Perhaps it is not in good form to use the words "filter/filtration/filtered." Yet filtration is one of the most important parts of the operation. Perhaps filtration is automatically included in wording that says something like, "No specific pathogens (including HCoV-229E, HCoV-NL63, HCoV-OC43, and HCoV-HKU1) were detected in clinical specimens from these patients by the RespiFinderSmart22kit." But if so, why? It's an assumption. And assumptions aren't good science.

The reports are inconclusive regarding the actual processes involved. This is why franky1 was unable to give me the information about the process used, long ago. The reports seem to be incomplete in this way, just as Dr. Andrew Kaufman suggested.

Your last link is the most damning of all of them. It talks about how many times the reports were cited. The citing is the method for making the whole thing foundational. When other authorities agree with something that is incomplete, they are assuming that the original work was done properly, and they are telling the world that it was.

The reports in the links you cited seem to be assuming a lot. In other words, there still isn't any solid proof. It might be reasonable evidence, but it might only be vast quantities of hearsay.

However, thanks for trying.

I've had a go. Obviously I am not a professional epidemiologist, but the below should be useful:

If you want fluid samples and centrifuges, then this is a suitable paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092803/
This paper explains the process using genomic sequencing and electron microscopy: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7045880/
There is also this, which places SARS-CoV-2 in its genetic family: https://nextstrain.org/groups/blab/sars-like-cov
Finally, the SARS-CoV-2 Wikipedia page also contains a lot of background information and further links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2

You can also go to Google Scholar to find out how often a paper has been cited by others. For example, the first one on my list has been cited nearly 7,000 times:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22A+Novel+Coronavirus+from+Patients+with+Pneumonia+in+China%2C+2019%22&btnG=

Covid-19 exists. The thing that it is, is the unknown. What is Covid-19? Is it a:
- virus
- world takeover system
- population control method done by shutting down economies
- media sensationalism gone wild
- money method for Big Pharma

Call it what you want. It has to have a name. But one thing we are finding out is that it isn't a virus, and that it can be cured by hydroxychloroquine + zinc in anybody who wouldn't have died if they never got Covid-19.

I don't think it's scam. Covid-19 is dangerous thing, but I don't think it's as dangerous as they want to show. I remember all this panic caused by media initially when it looked like plague is approaching, people started to buy food, sanitizers and masks like crazy.
Some countries like Sweden or Belarus didn't had lockdown and what we have now? Worst case scenario didn't happened, situation there is stable and pretty much normal. So, I think it's possible to live normal life now without too much restrictions. Just some basic things like distancing, hygiene and etc is needed.
And I think that current situation opened hands for governments to control people, track their every step without leaving much freedom. And some of their restrictions is just so stupid. I heard that in some countries, like Spain you have to wear mask even when youwalk alone in forest. Why!?