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Topic: Do you think gambling sites should ask proofs ? - page 3. (Read 1704 times)

legendary
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Yes gambling sites need to show proofs because how a gambler know if a gambling site is legit or safe many of sites today are scams so we need to be sure that the sites that we are using is really legit or safe.
I guess he means if the websites should ask proof of gambler. Like national ID and so forth to be able to play. In order for something wrong happens. Like exchanges and so forth. Otherwise considering if a casino should be provably fair or not is a useless thing to do, I mean why shouldn’t they, how would you trust them if they won’t do that.
legendary
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i think we should be careful when we want to send our identity to the site because we don't know what they want to do with our identity since there is many sites that using their members for many purpose. beside that, like what i see on the shopping online that need our identity including our credit card number, the site can get hacked by hacker and they can stolen our information to use for other purpose. we don't know what will happen in future but if we are careful then i think we can minimize from bad thing that will happen so we can stay safe.
Yes, avoid this kind of casinos. It is not safe for players. And your transaction will be tracked by your governament. Why people play bitcoin gambling means here, we don't need to give any personal information and our transactions will be hidden no one can track. But once you provide your personal information they can use it any wrong way. So why risk we have a lot of casinos that they don't ask our identity play in that casino and enjoy the game.
hero member
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i think we should be careful when we want to send our identity to the site because we don't know what they want to do with our identity since there is many sites that using their members for many purpose. beside that, like what i see on the shopping online that need our identity including our credit card number, the site can get hacked by hacker and they can stolen our information to use for other purpose. we don't know what will happen in future but if we are careful then i think we can minimize from bad thing that will happen so we can stay safe.
legendary
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
I'm not sure about less scams because i've been seeing more scam accusation threads recently on casinos that does kyc to their players compared to those that don't. Avoid them if you don't to provide your personal information, there's still a lot of bitcoin casino to gamble on that doesn't involve risking your information.
hero member
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Why would anyone fear when it comes to giving their ID screen shots to online services? oh I know the answer, because many of such services had taken those information and used them to scam people/identity theft/fraud/impersonating, you only need to give such info to trusted services and only when fiat money is involved, never give your info/ID if you are only playing with crypto coins.
You need to be able to have the government backing you up when it comes to fraud and complaints against online services and if your government doesn't protect you from online gambling/casinos if they ever tried to use your info/ID in criminal activities, you seriously need to check first and if you are not protected by law then do not give them anything not only casinos but exchanges and generally any online service.
legendary
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if the casinos start asking for "proof" or regulations and stuff like that, it means they have been regulated and have to follow the KYC AML rules and in other words that means they must be paying taxes and lots of it which is going to be a large amount of money since they have a lot of users and a lot of funds going through them.

and one of the reasons why casinos are using bitcoin and are pretty profitable is because they are not paying any taxes and they wouldn't want to do it themselves.

and besides what you said here won't fix any problems about "less scams"
hero member
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Bazinga!
While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

any gambling site that starts thinking about such a thing will be shooting itself in the foot. because the gamblers will simply close their accounts and go to another gambling site. and it is pretty easy since there are a lot of them around and most of them are offering the same thing with same features and same house edge and are also trusted.

and while we are playing with bitcoin, none of us will be willing to give anything to a gambling site.
legendary
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if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
All regulated casino must have KYC policy to remain in business and that can be big problem for lots of users from countries where gambling is restricted.

On the other hand casino that are not registered anywhere and only accept bitcoin don't ask any personal documents and protect personal privacy but they can shut down and run away without getting caught.

So if you want to protect your privacy than you have to take risk of getting scammed but if you like to remain in safe hands than it will cost your personal privacy.

And what makes you think the information supplied is correct in the KYC platform from their clients in as much as I subscribe to KYC but it should not be extended to gambling sites if its a trading site, then I agree thats its important at to avoid money laundering but gambling where the reason most people engage in the online version is to avoid being attached to it and what difference will it make if what I am running from in the physical gambling is what is being asked going the online way...


In my humble opinion, Most KYC supported Gambling site needs an ID verification and Address verification so that they can verify if the information provided is legit. That was the KYC main purpose. But i disagree about KYC on gambling site that using BTC as currency because BTC are meant to keep our privacy safe besides that, there are so many gambling site that are leghit and trusted without KYC, As per statement about, We can check the legality of all gambling site from it's company registration.
hero member
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
should they prove that the site is not a scam and legit. but if it had been playing on this site and is not a scam so what's wrong if we provide evidence that the site was not a scam to attract more customers are being cautious in choosing a gambling site. but if it bothers you can skip.
hero member
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I think the main reason anyone puts Bitcoin into gambling sites rather than fiat is so that they don't have to give their personal information.  If casinos did this to people when they didn't suspect any fraudulent activity from a specific user, no one would use the sites and thus verification would be pointless anyway.
legendary
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

I don't get it why ask a costumers some proof while the gambling site is not doing same thing will less a scams. Especially in bitcoin gambling industry which mostly gambling company not provide their ID, although it's doesn't really necessary, but if providing it will be a plus point for the company itself.


In an occasion when a user is suspected of doing things that are less good and may break the rules, they can ask for identity. But overall, if they ask for the identity of all users,  I think that will unwise and could undermine the reputation of the site concerned. At crypto world we want to remain anonymously.

No, they will usually give a warning, if the warning runs out of a chance (usually 3 warning which the company give), they will permanently banned you.
sr. member
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Yes gambling sites need to show proofs because how a gambler know if a gambling site is legit or safe many of sites today are scams so we need to be sure that the sites that we are using is really legit or safe.
sr. member
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

proof of identity you mean? no one would play if they ask for that, people like to play with bitcoin because they don't have to deal with the boring identity verification, and somehow also dangerous, what if they steal my credentials and use it for illegal things? i can't risk that, i'll never send my id to anyone, and don't forgot that id can be false too, maybe someone stole a ID from someone else and use it to play

I will also not play if they ask too much information that's why I used bitcoin in the first place, because of its anonymity. You just deposit it to their wallet and you withdraw it to your btc address as well. Very simple. And we all know what will happen if your credentials have been stolen, they can use it to in fraudulent activity for financial gains.
hero member
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if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
All regulated casino must have KYC policy to remain in business and that can be big problem for lots of users from countries where gambling is restricted.

On the other hand casino that are not registered anywhere and only accept bitcoin don't ask any personal documents and protect personal privacy but they can shut down and run away without getting caught.

So if you want to protect your privacy than you have to take risk of getting scammed but if you like to remain in safe hands than it will cost your personal privacy.

And what makes you think the information supplied is correct in the KYC platform from their clients in as much as I subscribe to KYC but it should not be extended to gambling sites if its a trading site, then I agree thats its important at to avoid money laundering but gambling where the reason most people engage in the online version is to avoid being attached to it and what difference will it make if what I am running from in the physical gambling is what is being asked going the online way...
legendary
Activity: 1904
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

In an occasion when a user is suspected of doing things that are less good and may break the rules, they can ask for identity. But overall, if they ask for the identity of all users,  I think that will unwise and could undermine the reputation of the site concerned. At crypto world we want to remain anonymously.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

proof of identity you mean? no one would play if they ask for that, people like to play with bitcoin because they don't have to deal with the boring identity verification, and somehow also dangerous, what if they steal my credentials and use it for illegal things? i can't risk that, i'll never send my id to anyone, and don't forgot that id can be false too, maybe someone stole a ID from someone else and use it to play
legendary
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Casinos definitely should ask proof from their users as many users as I've noticed are gambling while being below the age of 13-18 and the sites that ask proof include bet365 which is quite trustworthy compared to anonymous gambling websites that allow any user to register by just clicking the agreement. There are users who register multiple times to get bonuses and claim giveaways. However, this wouldn't reduce scams caused by gambling websites themselves and more than users scamming, the issue is that bitcoin related gambling websites are scamming.
legendary
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Fiat gambling establishments ask for ID because the law requires them to do so. Bitcoin gambling establishments shouldn't ask for ID if Bitcoin is not regulated in the country where they operate in my honest opinion. But they can ask for ID even if Bitcoin is not regulated of their own accord.
legendary
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.
What scams are you talking about exactly?

Gamblers are worried that casino will turn out to be scamming them, not the other way around.
Tell me what exactly a player can do to scam online Dice platform? Next to nothing. Exploit their bonus program with multiple accounts?
Having 2nd account registered with his own referral? That is still more profit for the casino!
legendary
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While I don't appreciate the fact that they ask proof but that been said if they ask proofs and run in a more legit way then that's actually good for users as less scams would hapen.

How would asking for proofs make it less scam proof ? First of all, asking for proofs doesn't necessarily mean they are regulated unlike they show their KYC. And secondly, they can claim to be hacked and run with the bitcoin even if they are actually regulated..
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