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legendary
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July 25, 2022, 01:15:25 PM
Indeed, sometimes the amount of positive feedback does not guarantee that when you get a case like that, the impact will quickly affect it. But for me personally, such a case is almost impossible if the user is careful, meaning there will always be rules in most things in the casino concerned, so if such a case were to occur I think there would be a definite source of rules that might be overlooked. Because in the past there were incidents like that but in the end there were rules that were not understood by the users themselves, so cases like this were a kind of carelessness.

You never know what future might bring to your business, yes, for those gamblers who already use the platform and didn't experience any problem the trust to that casino was already established, but there might be other gamblers that will be affected and be worry that same case might happen to them if they will be putting their issue with the complainant side. Like how it has been described, the case is valid and the amount of money involve is really huge, that can really create a damaging images t business.
legendary
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July 25, 2022, 11:50:41 AM
Indeed, sometimes the amount of positive feedback does not guarantee that when you get a case like that, the impact will quickly affect it. But for me personally, such a case is almost impossible if the user is careful, meaning there will always be rules in most things in the casino concerned, so if such a case were to occur I think there would be a definite source of rules that might be overlooked. Because in the past there were incidents like that but in the end there were rules that were not understood by the users themselves, so cases like this were a kind of carelessness.
hero member
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July 25, 2022, 10:17:06 AM
Agree, In this world of competition, everyone wants to give the highest facilities, especially for business expansion. However, if there is a valid complaint, it must be taken with the responsibility. Because usually those who are legally conducting the casino business for a long time, they must take any complaint. However, the complaint should also be investigated. Many times a new user makes big complaints without understanding. Which in some cases is to be harmed. So I think we should be careful l before making any complaint.
The competition is tough and there is so much innovation going on around.
Only the one who is going with the pace of the modern time are the one successful - it is the survival of the fittest and there is no denial.
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July 25, 2022, 01:22:13 AM
Definitely, it will affect the reputation of the casino but we don't know how huge the effect is.  Those who have known the casino for a long time may not be affected since they already have their own experience and the trust is already there.  The accusation might probably affect the new players but it might be overturned by the many good reviews of that site no matter how valid the accusation is.  Human behavior often chooses to go with herds meaning they will certainly believe the many even if they are wrong than believe the one that is saying the truth.  And in your case, the many good reviews are also genuine just like the one bad review.  Unless your valid accusation is used in propaganda to put down that casino and that I think is another story.
Agree, In this world of competition, everyone wants to give the highest facilities, especially for business expansion. However, if there is a valid complaint, it must be taken with the responsibility. Because usually those who are legally conducting the casino business for a long time, they must take any complaint. However, the complaint should also be investigated. Many times a new user makes big complaints without understanding. Which in some cases is to be harmed. So I think we should be careful l before making any complaint.
hero member
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July 25, 2022, 12:22:03 AM
It is true that casinos will do everything they can to keep their reputation as clean as possible but once they lose it and they are known to be a scam casino they have nothing else to lose and as such they can keep scamming their customers.

And the 1xbit casino is like that, they have so much bad reputation that it does not matter what they try to do to fix it, that bad reputation will remain there and as such they do not care anymore and they scam anyone that dares to play with them.
because the gambling site you said just wanted to take personal advantage without thinking about its reputation. if the gambling owners only think about personal gain, they will continue to cheat on someone who registers there and don't care about the bad reputation they get and he will continue to cheat until they get rich.
but at least the bad reputation that has been known by some gamblers can make other gamblers to be more careful in choosing a gambling site
legendary
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July 22, 2022, 04:33:03 PM

I think that 1xbit and other big gambling sites which are known to be a scam are once legit but the same scenario on this thread have happened to them. This is why it's important that a gambling site should not ignore even one negative feedback or accusation but they must try to resolve it and let others know if who is wrong and right so that they can always gain the sympathy of the public.

No, it isn't the same scenario.  1xBit has lots of accusations thrown at them.  But they did not bother resolving them, leaving those victims' cases unsolved.  While the case given here is a Casino with lots trust scores and a single "valid"  accusation.

While for the gamblers it's indeed important to do a research and check the reputation of the casino they are trying to play with if all accusations are solved or if there are some left which seem to be serious. They better avoid it because if not then they are next in line and they will also experience the same problem later on.

Definitely, if the Casino is unknown to us, the first thing we check is the users' feedback, but we should be careful with that because there are lots of review sites that have fake reviews.
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July 22, 2022, 04:07:57 PM
I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
even though there is the biggest and most trusted casino anywhere if you get the red trust just once, your reputation will definitely decline and someone who wants to join the casino thinks longer when you want to go further to the casino.
every gambler before joining a gambling site or to a casino will certainly also see how good the reputation of the casino is. because gamblers also need the trust of the casino so that they are not afraid to lose their money when gambling at that place
I think that 1xbit and other big gambling sites which are known to be a scam are once legit but the same scenario on this thread have happened to them. This is why it's important that a gambling site should not ignore even one negative feedback or accusation but they must try to resolve it and let others know if who is wrong and right so that they can always gain the sympathy of the public.

While for the gamblers it's indeed important to do a research and check the reputation of the casino they are trying to play with if all accusations are solved or if there are some left which seem to be serious. They better avoid it because if not then they are next in line and they will also experience the same problem later on.
It is true that casinos will do everything they can to keep their reputation as clean as possible but once they lose it and they are known to be a scam casino they have nothing else to lose and as such they can keep scamming their customers.

And the 1xbit casino is like that, they have so much bad reputation that it does not matter what they try to do to fix it, that bad reputation will remain there and as such they do not care anymore and they scam anyone that dares to play with them.
legendary
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July 22, 2022, 08:38:37 AM
don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

In ideal world it would work in such way. But in reality, if you have a good rep, you can do some mount of bad things which will not be noticed by your customer. Better rep - bigger amount of such cases. Bigger bonus paynment for average user - also bigger amount of scam accusations will be unnoticed

Some kind of Repupation Inertia. This applicable not only to casino, but for everything else in the world.

The negatives always have a much larger impact than positives.

But if you have 1000 positive feedbacks and 1 negative, people will still use your service. The only thing that matter is the difference between positive and negative cases.


In online stores when I read product reviews I always filter out positives because you rarely can learn anything important from them. It's the negatives that make you think because people really put effort into them and spend time describing the problem.

I 'll agree with you, that for store or casino or exchange it can be harder to find new customers with open accusations. But old customers will not leave just because one guy get fucked by casino.
legendary
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July 21, 2022, 05:17:19 PM
don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

In ideal world it would work in such way. But in reality, if you have a good rep, you can do some mount of bad things which will not be noticed by your customer. Better rep - bigger amount of such cases. Bigger bonus paynment for average user - also bigger amount of scam accusations will be unnoticed

Some kind of Repupation Inertia. This applicable not only to casino, but for everything else in the world.

The negatives always have a much larger impact than positives. In online stores when I read product reviews I always filter out positives because you rarely can learn anything important from them. It's the negatives that make you think because people really put effort into them and spend time describing the problem.

You can have many people with positive experience but it's that one person with a negative one that can give you screenshots of the support's responses and you can learn what kind of attitude they have and if it's possible to come to an agreement.
legendary
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July 21, 2022, 04:30:33 PM
One small issue could really be ending up on being big or become the reason for your business to put into a situation where trust could be highly affected

A small issue can always be overwritten by a huge pile of trust scores unless this small issue is used for propaganda and has someone big backing and its main purpose is to destroy the reputation of a company because the people behind this plan will relentlessly throw accusations using the same issue over and over again until they got many people involved.

and as said that it would really be that much important for it to be resolved immediately before things become not able to handle or couldnt really be controlled out

Indeed, the issue should be solved asap to not open a window for bashing or someone competitor to take advantage of it.


In general sense where 1 negative issue be leaved out unresolved could possibly give big effects on the reputation but actually this is situational.

A reputed Casino won't leave an unresolved valid case unless the one claiming it is valid is only the user himself but in reality, the reputable casino had a valid reason for their action on that case.
legendary
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July 21, 2022, 04:09:11 PM
don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

In ideal world it would work in such way. But in reality, if you have a good rep, you can do some mount of bad things which will not be noticed by your customer. Better rep - bigger amount of such cases. Bigger bonus paynment for average user - also bigger amount of scam accusations will be unnoticed

Some kind of Repupation Inertia. This applicable not only to casino, but for everything else in the world.
hero member
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July 21, 2022, 03:58:18 PM
I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
Their reputation definitely will be threatened at the beginning and if found true by the allegation then they stand to lose potential customers and also, their old customers will be in fear with double mind that such might likely happened to them in the future and this can drive them away. And that's a shake or threat on such casino's reputation.
legendary
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July 21, 2022, 03:47:29 PM
I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Once you have reached a certain "critical mass" with a casino it is pretty hard to go wrong with it, unless you were making a lot of shady moves to get up to that position too quickly then a solid reputation should be easy to hold. There are always going to be some legitimate complaints, sometimes glitches happen or even support staff make the wrong interpretations of the correct resolution (we all have bad days). In general though, if a sportsbook or casino has built a good reputation then they have little incentive to screw people over on things like withdrawing winnings unless they find abuse has taken place. They make plenty of money from the majority losers that the occasional winner is just accepted, calculated even, as a cost of doing business.
legendary
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July 21, 2022, 03:39:32 PM
I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
even though there is the biggest and most trusted casino anywhere if you get the red trust just once, your reputation will definitely decline and someone who wants to join the casino thinks longer when you want to go further to the casino.
every gambler before joining a gambling site or to a casino will certainly also see how good the reputation of the casino is. because gamblers also need the trust of the casino so that they are not afraid to lose their money when gambling at that place
I think that 1xbit and other big gambling sites which are known to be a scam are once legit but the same scenario on this thread have happened to them. This is why it's important that a gambling site should not ignore even one negative feedback or accusation but they must try to resolve it and let others know if who is wrong and right so that they can always gain the sympathy of the public.

While for the gamblers it's indeed important to do a research and check the reputation of the casino they are trying to play with if all accusations are solved or if there are some left which seem to be serious. They better avoid it because if not then they are next in line and they will also experience the same problem later on.
One small issue could really be ending up on being big or become the reason for your business to put into a situation where trust could be highly affected and as said that it would really be that much important for it to be

resolved immediately before things become not able to handle or couldnt really be controlled out thats why its really important.I dont know on 1xbit but this is mostly talking about shady acts and decisions made
by the team which ending up on getting impressions to be a scammy casino but surprisingly there are still people who do really keep engaging with this platform.

In general sense where 1 negative issue be leaved out unresolved could possibly give big effects on the reputation but actually this is situational.
hero member
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July 21, 2022, 03:28:32 PM
I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
even though there is the biggest and most trusted casino anywhere if you get the red trust just once, your reputation will definitely decline and someone who wants to join the casino thinks longer when you want to go further to the casino.
every gambler before joining a gambling site or to a casino will certainly also see how good the reputation of the casino is. because gamblers also need the trust of the casino so that they are not afraid to lose their money when gambling at that place
I think that 1xbit and other big gambling sites which are known to be a scam are once legit but the same scenario on this thread have happened to them. This is why it's important that a gambling site should not ignore even one negative feedback or accusation but they must try to resolve it and let others know if who is wrong and right so that they can always gain the sympathy of the public.

While for the gamblers it's indeed important to do a research and check the reputation of the casino they are trying to play with if all accusations are solved or if there are some left which seem to be serious. They better avoid it because if not then they are next in line and they will also experience the same problem later on.
legendary
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July 21, 2022, 02:01:21 PM
If you will only visit every crypto gambling review site that you can see on the web you will noticed that many of the crypto gambling sites that they review don't have an ANN thread on our forum. There are some which are ranked high and they do have a thread here but it was not that active anymore.
There are instances that those known casinos that have already built up their casino and community, don't stay here anymore. Maybe they think that it's no longer effective as they've got most of the customers already that they need but for sure that the forum has helped them out. Also, they're active in other social media and that's much easier for them to address and solve issues by their customers.
I think that's the reason why they're no longer active in here if ever they've got a thread in the forum.
There is no exact numbers of costumer for any business mate, because imagine that gamblers are not permanently going in single site as they are keep finding new one so how come that they will be contented upon their sites player.

Maybe they are now extending their ads in different sites so they are gathering new costumers and not willing to advertise here anymore .
Although it is a viable option, but not very convincing, because all the sites know that by having an Ann thread here in Bitcointalk, it means having many more clients, more traffic and that is something that every online casino is looking for, unless it is a casino that is based only on fiat money and does not do any type of conversion, but even so if it works that way it would not be bad to advertise, even if it involves introducing some cryptocurrency into the casino, be it BTC, USDT which are the most common and those that could mainly be added quickly and that it be in networks that do not use much associated fee, because that is another topic.
hero member
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July 17, 2022, 02:41:25 AM
Pretty ironic to call them "well reputable" if they cannot solve a single thing that will ruin their reputation. For me, if they are not trying to solve it, meaning they are neglecting their obligation to their players which is to be fair, it could happen to anybody, therefore I would not trust that certain gambling site anymore.

There's a plenty of gambling sites out there, so I'm gonna try them all and find something that really cares about their players.
I agree. You cant really call a casino as reputable and trusted if there's a valid existing complaint towards them and they're not resolving it. One of the reason is its a huge amount and can probably hurt their business if they let the player to withraw his/her winnings. I've seen similar issue before to a particular casino (I will not name it) the money involve is also huge and the player cant withdraw for a reason. But this specific casino address the issue and resolved it immediately. Thats how they supposed to deal with it if the accusation is valid and its just shows how trusted the casino is.
hero member
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July 17, 2022, 02:13:03 AM
I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
even though there is the biggest and most trusted casino anywhere if you get the red trust just once, your reputation will definitely decline and someone who wants to join the casino thinks longer when you want to go further to the casino.
every gambler before joining a gambling site or to a casino will certainly also see how good the reputation of the casino is. because gamblers also need the trust of the casino so that they are not afraid to lose their money when gambling at that place
legendary
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July 16, 2022, 06:33:52 PM
Pretty ironic to call them "well reputable" if they cannot solve a single thing that will ruin their reputation. For me, if they are not trying to solve it, meaning they are neglecting their obligation to their players which is to be fair, it could happen to anybody, therefore I would not trust that certain gambling site anymore.

Or it is possible that the accusation isn't valid means there is some breach of contracts in there.  I agree, if the Casino is well reputed, then they will do their best to keep their reputation untarnished.  So basically the problem will be solved asap if there is no ground or any breaches. 

There's a plenty of gambling sites out there, so I'm gonna try them all and find something that really cares about their players.

Reputable gambling casinos will always care for their players.  That is one reason why live support is provided.  to entertain any questions and address and solve any issue or problem we have in their platform.  Since gambling casino is a business establishments, they will definitely try to please their players.
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July 16, 2022, 04:52:03 PM
Still, the player has to claim its right because they win the game if the player already complies all of the things needed for the withdrawal and the gambling casino does not take an action and ignores this scenario there's a chance that they will tag but still, of course, it will be deepen the conversation with the thread by that it can be the judge if they really deserve to get tag or not. Having proper evidence is a must of course.

It's really important that the complainant will provide provides proof and evidence to support his claims because some gamblers are creating fake accusations just to ruin the reputation of a reputable site. Everyone who is having issues has the right to complain regardless of the high reputation of a site but they really have to make sure that they haven't committed any violations.

Unfortunately those bad losers or people who think they are smarter than the casino who have opened business up just to take your money if you play in the long term start blaming senseless false accusations against even extremely reputable casinos who pay sometimes even near a million dollars on just bonus they give at a certain time of the year,well most likely that happens only in Christmas time but still I mean these sore losers can't accept the fact that they lost money they could not afford to lose and end up blaming the casino for that coming up with a lot of made up stories.

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