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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 13, 2022, 03:53:45 AM

The victim can sue them and if the victim win, for sure the alleged Casino can't get away from it. I still hope they can solve it in a peaceful manner and for the victim, I hope they get justice for this. Though, I think this casino has a valid leeway to hold or forfeit the winnings like breaching TOS for example.

That is why if you're going to deposit and play with a big amount of money be sure to read the TOS of the casino and take into your heart these terms and follow it by heart, so you always have a good defense in case of a worse scenario, casinos are always checking your betting history, your login, and your behavior while you are playing, so be sure you are fully aware of what's happening if you are breaking the rules and still within the scope of the rules.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on June 12, 2022, 11:41:59 PM

When doing casino gambling, should already know that there is a risk that all assets will disappear instantly if they gamble with a lot of capital at once in one game, whereas if you use your assets by playing small capital then it will make you a little safer although the profit that is obtained is very long. but if people are rich and don't really care about the money, then betting large amounts at once is not a problem.

That's already obvious but the risk you've mentioned doesn't change even if you're playing with amounts you can afford to lose knowing there's people winning the jackpot or hitting a crazy multiplier from a small bet. No matter what we say though, we can't stop others from depositing the amounts they prefer and there are always people gambling with more money than usual that's why having these feedback, accusations, and reviews provide a lot of help for most gamblers.

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Quote from: LodisMcguire on June 13, 2022, 01:49:54 AM

If it just one legit case,people might still hesitating whether to leave or stay in that casino.The casino can claim that is the fault of one particular staff and promise that it will not happen again.But if it's two case,i think 90% of player will leave that casino without hesitation and go to some more reputable site.

An old player playing in a casino for a long time without experiencing an issue won't bother. Unless it happens to him personally, he'll just ignore the case. For a long-time client of a casino, personal experience outweighs the validity of other people's accusations. Call it stubbornness but it is true.

Quote from: joeperry on June 13, 2022, 03:14:47 AM

For me of course, because that problem might happen again to other user possibly you or me and if all the proofs and evidence then there is no way they would get away with it and even with their thousand good feedback in just 1 mistake they can destroy it. As the gambling site should be trusted from start to finish and what they can only do is to solve it after all it's their reputation that is at risk and I am sure they will do anything to clear their name.

The victim can sue them and if the victim win, for sure the alleged Casino can't get away from it. I still hope they can solve it in a peaceful manner and for the victim, I hope they get justice for this. Though, I think this casino has a valid leeway to hold or forfeit the winnings like breaching TOS for example.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Honestly I don't think that will happen with a reputable casino, because even if there are such allegations that are valid the casino will sort out the problem immediately. Unlike the case if the casino is not willing to solve the problem, then all the good reputation they have may be lost. That's why I said at the outset it wouldn't happen, because even though the casino in question has a good reputation I also admit there will be problems in it. But a reputable casino will always solve the existing problems in a good way too and because of that, a reputable casino will stay around for a long time.

They will find the best way to solve the issue, the business they established takes time and they won't let any problem to be the reason

in ruining their names, though it isn't that quick which supposedly the proper ways but reputable casino will look deeper to find what is

fit and to make sure in addressing the concern and make the process be fair in both sides.

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For me of course, because that problem might happen again to other user possibly you or me and if all the proofs and evidence then there is no way they would get away with it and even with their thousand good feedback in just 1 mistake they can destroy it. As the gambling site should be trusted from start to finish and what they can only do is to solve it after all it's their reputation that is at risk and I am sure they will do anything to clear their name.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Honestly I don't think that will happen with a reputable casino, because even if there are such allegations that are valid the casino will sort out the problem immediately. Unlike the case if the casino is not willing to solve the problem, then all the good reputation they have may be lost. That's why I said at the outset it wouldn't happen, because even though the casino in question has a good reputation I also admit there will be problems in it. But a reputable casino will always solve the existing problems in a good way too and because of that, a reputable casino will stay around for a long time.

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Quote from: LodisMcguire on June 13, 2022, 01:49:54 AM

If it just one legit case,people might still hesitating whether to leave or stay in that casino.

For most of the gamblers that have been staying and never experienced a problem to that casino, they'll stay.

Quote from: LodisMcguire on June 13, 2022, 01:49:54 AM

The casino can claim that is the fault of one particular staff and promise that it will not happen again.But if it's two case,i think 90% of player will leave that casino without hesitation and go to some more reputable site.

Yes, they can have that explanation and it will now going to depend to all of those that are reading and tuning on that situation to believe or not. There will be for sure that's gonna believe to their explanation.

And a portion that will believe to the complainant.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

If only one accusation even though it is valid is not enough to damage the reputation of the Casino especially if it is only one from the long time the Casino has been operating, especially for loyal users, they may only raise doubts from new users.
I know a Casino that experienced this and from about 3 years they operated only one accusation (seems valid with the evidence included) but this remains a question after the accusation not existed a new one, and the Casino is still operating with around thousands of players each day (statistics are on the website if you are logged in)

I also think so because it is just one accusation which is not enough to damage the casino's reputation, especially if the casino already has a pretty good reputation among the other casinos. And if it did happen at a reputable casino, they would solve the problem without taking too long, especially if the member could indeed show proof that he wasn't cheating the casino. The casino would help cash out his winnings. But we only hope that every member will not get into serious trouble in the casino so they can play comfortably and safely.

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If it just one legit case,people might still hesitating whether to leave or stay in that casino.The casino can claim that is the fault of one particular staff and promise that it will not happen again.But if it's two case,i think 90% of player will leave that casino without hesitation and go to some more reputable site.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Though question, usually a scam accusation is a red flag for me and I would try to avoid that casino in the future. If it's an older casino and I only have good experience with it and so did many other gamblers, that I would give it another chance. It really comes down to what kind of reviews there are and how the negative issue looks like. Reading random reviews of a casino from the internet is not really trustworthy to me, I will always give more weight to a review here on the forum than any other side online. It's just too easy to fake good reviews online, but here on the forum if there are members who have been around for many years with a high trust factor, then we can give much more weight to it. So let's say the scam accusation comes from a Newbie rank with no other posts here before, than I am a reluctant to stop completely gambling on that casino. For a casino to scam it's customers I would expect them to do it to many customers at once, and not only one. Why risk the reputation of a well established casino on one single case?

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Well, that's the same as a person who is very good, reputable, and trustworthy but with one legit mistake, all of those good traits would be temporarily erased and that person would automatically become untrustworthy. I said it is temporary because we can do something about it to correct.
Now, this certain casino who have a legit case should handle it and resolve it responsibly, otherwise that one accusation would cost them their reputation as the saying always says "where there is smoke there is fire" and it will spread like a wildfire eventually.

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I think it depends on many things, but in general, for a scam accusation they should not lose their reputation. Pokerstars is also being accused of scam every now and then and their business and reputation is not affected. Sometimes when you deal with thousands of customers a day, there may be cases that due to investigations, security protocols, etc. a withdrawal is delayed or funds are frozen by mistake, but there is an essential difference between casinos with great reputation in which things like this can happen punctually and scam casinos like 1xCrap.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 12, 2022, 11:57:34 PM

Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

If only one accusation even though it is valid is not enough to damage the reputation of the Casino especially if it is only one from the long time the Casino has been operating, especially for loyal users, they may only raise doubts from new users.
I know a Casino that experienced this and from about 3 years they operated only one accusation (seems valid with the evidence included) but this remains a question after the accusation not existed a new one, and the Casino is still operating with around thousands of players each day (statistics are on the website if you are logged in)

Precisely! One valid accusation and no more incidents like that would be buried with history. They might affect the casino for some time but it will be forgotten when there are no cases like that followed. Even though it will be a spot on the clean records of the casino but it won't be stickied on the face of that casino since it will be overridden by the thousands of legit positive reviews from its long-time and possible new users.
This kind of stuff doesn't work like an account painted red by the DT member of this forum due to a single valid complaint. It is far more complicated than that.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

If only one accusation even though it is valid is not enough to damage the reputation of the Casino especially if it is only one from the long time the Casino has been operating, especially for loyal users, they may only raise doubts from new users.
I know a Casino that experienced this and from about 3 years they operated only one accusation (seems valid with the evidence included) but this remains a question after the accusation not existed a new one, and the Casino is still operating with around thousands of players each day (statistics are on the website if you are logged in)

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

There are legit casinos but eventually they turned into a scam so what you are saying is possible. Thousands of good feedback can become useless if one strong bad feedback takes place. You did not want to mention any casino so it means this scenario is true and have happened lately? Omg but what could that casino be? If you are playing on them, you better pause for a while and observe things if what is the casinos response to the issue.

If they re solve it later on then that shows that they are serious about the reputation that they already built. It still safe to continue playing on them but if they didn't do it and ignore the on going issue, that is a bad sign.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 12, 2022, 07:06:23 PM

If there's a single valid accusation, at first it'll probably serve as a reminder for most gamblers to avoid playing with high amounts on that certain casino but accusations could still be removed or maybe overshadowed at some point if they show some signs of improvement when it comes to issues related to their players. I remember back then when betcoin used to have an issue that got resolved by having a compromise with the prize but they've improved their reputation after a couple of years. Then again I guess it depends on the severity of the accusation since there are negative feedbacks that doesn't affect the entire reputation of the gambling site like for example on nitrogensports they're tagged due to the multi-account case with their poker.

When doing casino gambling, should already know that there is a risk that all assets will disappear instantly if they gamble with a lot of capital at once in one game, whereas if you use your assets by playing small capital then it will make you a little safer although the profit that is obtained is very long. but if people are rich and don't really care about the money, then betting large amounts at once is not a problem.

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It takes years to build a reputation, but it can be ruined in seconds, and then takes a lifetime to rebuild.

This is what came to my mind when I was reading your post.

You already said the accusation was legit and remained unresolved for some reason so that could be enough to tarnish the image long-time casino. It may not be enough to ruin their reputation completely but users will still be reminded that they may also experience the same one day. They could choose to another casino that has no issue with large withdrawals if they want play with a lot of money.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Even one unresolve issue can ruin the reputation of a trusted casino. Because if the accusation is legit and has evidence, certainly this gambler accusing the casino will not stop there and for sure he/she will spread awareness especially to the gamblers who are playing to this specific casino. This is to be notice and to warn the gamblers that the casino has an existing issue which they are not addressing.

On the other side, if this specific casino is trusted and has good feedbacks from gamblers playing on their platform. They will not let this one issue to ruin their reputation hence its a must for them to resolve it especially the involve money is huge. But this is, if their casino is trusted for real.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 08:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Depending on the situation, I guess this is a situation that casino who's accused of delaying the withdrawal of $100k is still manageable. But it's different compared to those complaints with little amounts. So, it's like a combination of many complaints into a bigger amount that they have to solve. What was the problem with this one and the reason for the delay in the transaction? If it's a valid transaction and it's being delayed, there could also be a valid reason why it's being put on halt. With that one problem being solved and existing, this will make the other huge bettors stop betting huge sums of money on that platform. But I don't think that many of them will stop gambling there, they'll just reduce the amount that they usually bet.

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If there's a single valid accusation, at first it'll probably serve as a reminder for most gamblers to avoid playing with high amounts on that certain casino but accusations could still be removed or maybe overshadowed at some point if they show some signs of improvement when it comes to issues related to their players. I remember back then when betcoin used to have an issue that got resolved by having a compromise with the prize but they've improved their reputation after a couple of years. Then again I guess it depends on the severity of the accusation since there are negative feedbacks that doesn't affect the entire reputation of the gambling site like for example on nitrogensports they're tagged due to the multi-account case with their poker.

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