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legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
That article is about food and animals, not water and plants.  Hope you warmed up before making such a stretch.   Tongue
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Gerald Davis
Yes, pouring boiling hot water right out of the microwave onto plants can hurt them.

The soil analysis for my lawn said it was deficient in iron so I poured molten iron on it.  the damn lawn died although as a plus I no longer have to worry about weeds.
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The North Remembers
Yes, pouring boiling hot water right out of the microwave onto plants can hurt them.
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
thinking about locking this thread, but I caused a heated discussion apparently.


Firstly, the sun does not equal a microwave.

I think I'm going to do this experiment.

Does any one care what type of microwave?

You mean a brand or something
Guess Danby doesn't matter to me
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thinking about locking this thread, but I caused a heated discussion apparently.


Firstly, the sun does not equal a microwave.

I think I'm going to do this experiment.

Does any one care what type of microwave?
legendary
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
If you think microwaves go through the atmosphere, see my previous post

So they wasted their money building this?



It is the South Pole Microwave telescope.  Since the atmosphere blocks microwaves it should never see anything right?


Maybe your right and it doesn't work, they just built to enjoy views like this on the taxpayer dime.



D&T, there is no possible way that jackjack may be mistaken.  The crickets have spoken!   Grin



This is the true face of microwaves
Stop spreading dangerous bullshit




legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
If you think microwaves go through the atmosphere, see my previous post

So they wasted their money building this?



It is the South Pole Microwave telescope.  Since the atmosphere blocks microwaves it should never see anything right?


Maybe your right and it doesn't work, they just built to enjoy views like this on the taxpayer dime.



D&T, there is no possible way that jackjack may be mistaken.  The crickets have spoken!   Grin

donator
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Gerald Davis
If you think microwaves go through the atmosphere, see my previous post

So they wasted their money building this?



It is the South Pole Microwave telescope.  Since the atmosphere blocks microwaves it should never see anything right?


Maybe your right and it doesn't work, they just built to enjoy views like this on the taxpayer dime.

legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
That's right jackjack.  Drop the argument, which you were losing badly, about whether or not the sun has been bathing the earth in microwave radiation for billions of years.  Pretend you never said anything dumb or snarky, like "do you even science?" in response.

Good job jackjack.  Pretend that the water in the atmosphere stops microwaves in a different way (court order?  magic?  posted sign?) than the water in microwaved food.  Ignore anyone who points out that you are wrong about this.

Copy and post things beyond your comprehension without reading, much less understanding them.  That's always impressive.

Equally impressive is your cat-based thought experiment: "hurr durr my cat is alive, therefore the sun doesn't microwave the earth."

IOW, Larry Summers was completely right about why ("issues of intrinsic aptitude") there are so few females in the hard sciences.   Smiley

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The Big Bang. When that mother-of-all-microwave-timers started, energy went everywhere and all at once. This wasn't your typical explosion like when a bomb goes off and some time later you feel the shock.

This explosion filled the entire universe with energy ALL AT ONE TIME. One minute there's absolutely nothing and the next, energy is everywhere. Just like that. If you snapped your fingers it would be too long. We're talking instantaneous.

The microwave radiation is the echo left by that explosion.

OK, so now we know there is a microwave radiation field and where it came from. Anyone even remotely scientifically literate knows that a microwave radiation field implies a microwave. The universe is a giant microwave oven set at a really low temperature for a really long time.

http://www.deepastronomy.com/cosmic-microwave-background-radiation-sickness.html
staff
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Guys, just state you're opinion and back it up with some evidence and wait for the result. Instead of bitching between each other, lol.


Like I replied earlier, I still think NO.
legendary
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Why do you believe microwave ovens are the devil?
Again:
Hmmm what?
Please show me the post where I said I think microwaves poison water, or shut the fuck up  Roll Eyes
legendary
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You and the OP are full of superstitions.  

Unless you can explain how microwaves poison water
Hmmm what?
Please show me the post where I said I think microwaves poison water, or shut the fuck up  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
The sun has been microwaving everything on earth for billions of years.
Wow
Just wow
Do you even science?
Huh What? The sun has been microwaving everything on Earth for billions of years. No harm seems to have come of it, especially compared to the ultraviolet radiation the sun is constantly spraying out, which is far more dangerous.
Maybe it's because everything is stopped by the atmosphere?

The atmosphere doesn't just put up a stop sign to halt the flow of solar radiation.  It stops the radiation by absorbing it, in the exact same way that food in a microwave oven stops the microwaves by absorbing them.

Any ill effects water microwaved in your kitchen displays should also be present in all water because it's been thoroughly microwaved in the atmosphere for as long as we've had one.

Why do you believe microwave ovens are the devil?  Did you hear it on Oprah, or read it in Cosmo?

What other common household appliances do you fear for no good (IE demonstrable) reason?  Vacuums?  Coffee grinders?  Garage door openers?   Wink
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Are you fucking stupid? Or blind?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is obviously what keeps me alive in this world full of microwave monsters. Oh and it kills the GMO monsters too.


My dear Pastafarian lassie,

You should replace the batteries on your sarcasm detector if you really think I'm a Christian.

I know it's hard to be rational when you're all full of hormones, but you should realize that for most of the earth's history there was no atmosphere or, at most, a thin one very different than present.

Regardless, that atmosphere was/is full of water vapor and has been microwaved by the sun for eons.  No detriment to plant life has been noted.

You and the OP are full of superstitions.  Baseless, unprovable, scientifically illiterate superstitions.  Exactly like the Christians you disdain.

Unless you can explain how microwaves poison water, you are no better than the most benighted peasant wallowing in the ignorance of the middle ages.  Worse actually, because you should know better, having had access to schools and libraries and google.

I didn't expect you to actually be a girl, but am not surprised given your antipathy to logic and analytical rigor.  Now cry moar about misogyny while simultaneously justifying it, oh mighty fembot.   Roll Eyes   Tongue

You feel microwaves must be bad, so QED they are.  Because ovaries.  And I'm a terrible person for mocking that asinine reality, right?   Kiss
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Geomagnetic field/ Magnetosphere and most things
Despite what you may have seen in the (completely retarded) movie The Core, the Earth's magnetic field only affects charged particles; it has absolutely no effect whatsoever on any kind of electromagnetic radiation.

Was calling out this part
Electromagnetic radiation trapped in the magnetosphere above the plasma frequency
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/JA078i034p08136/abstract
The title of that article is somewhat misleading: it is referring to electromagnetic radiation being emitted by particles trapped in a particular region of the magnetosphere. The radiation itself is not trapped, only the source of the radiation is.

Granted the title is misleading but Science has no absolutes
So as a person of science I just hate that word

Based on current science it has been proven to have almost no effect whatsoever on any kind of electromagnetic radiation as far as we know and have been able to prove
Would be a better way to phrase it
Just avoid the A word Cheesy
legendary
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AFAIK the only thing microwaves do is shake water molecules at a high enough rate that they produce heat from friction.  There doesn't seem to be anything which says microwaves have other adverse effects which remain after the process of microwaving is done, outside of nasty dry food.  I wouldn't want to sit in one while it's running, tho.

Your microwave is clearly haunted by demons.

You never know...
legendary
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Wow, you honestly believe the earth has had an atmosphere remotely like our present one for billions of years?
Wow, you honestly believe I said that?

And you do know that the atmosphere, which you are aware has been microwaved by the sun for some epoch period of time, contains massive amounts of water vapor, don't you? 
Point?

That's cute.  Are you a girl or something?   Cheesy
Based on my posts count and the fact that I'm here for more than 2 years, I thought that nearly everybody knew I am a girl. But again, point?
Are you misogynistic?

Your microwave is clearly haunted by demons.  I suggest asking the Pope for an exorcism.  Or apply leeches. 
Oh wait you're christian, don't bother replying to the previous question.

Whatever sets your scientifically illiterate heat aflutter, and makes you feel safe from the invisible-yet-evil horrors of microwaves.   Grin
Are you fucking stupid? Or blind?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is obviously what keeps me alive in this world full of microwave monsters. Oh and it kills the GMO monsters too.
legendary
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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
Geomagnetic field/ Magnetosphere and most things
Despite what you may have seen in the (completely retarded) movie The Core, the Earth's magnetic field only affects charged particles; it has absolutely no effect whatsoever on any kind of electromagnetic radiation.

Was calling out this part
Electromagnetic radiation trapped in the magnetosphere above the plasma frequency
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/JA078i034p08136/abstract
The title of that article is somewhat misleading: it is referring to electromagnetic radiation being emitted by particles trapped in a particular region of the magnetosphere. The radiation itself is not trapped, only the source of the radiation is.

Anyway, the point was comparing microwaving water in a microwave oven and the microwaves from the Sun we receive.
Comparing what happens when microwaving a cat in a oven, and when a cat walks under the Sun, I think I can fairly conclude that the amount of microwaves received on the ground is far far lower than in a oven
True. I never said it wasn't, though.
legendary
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If you think microwaves go through the atmosphere, see my previous post
It displays your remarkable ability to read something without understanding it.
This implies I read the article and not just did Ctrl+F 'sun'


If you think microwaves go through the atmosphere, see my previous post
I saw your previous post. It displays your remarkable ability to read something without understanding it. Go read that article again, especially the part about microwave radiation from space being detectable by ground based observatories. I do think microwaves go through the atmosphere. Radar astronomers also think microwaves go through the atmosphere. Radar wouldn't even work at all if they didn't. As for the sun's microwaves in particular, most of the radiation (what did you think the word "primarily" means, in that context?) is indeed absorbed by the atmosphere without reaching the Earth's surface, but some is not. And the microwave radiation that does reach the Earth, both from the sun and other sources, is completely harmless.
Ok fair enough I should have read it


Anyway, the point was comparing microwaving water in a microwave oven and the microwaves from the Sun we receive.
Comparing what happens when microwaving a cat in a oven, and when a cat walks under the Sun, I think I can fairly conclude that the amount of microwaves received on the ground is far far lower than in a oven
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