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DO YOU WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED OR RICH?…IT’S YOUR CHOICE

I came across this excellent chart the other day. It shows those times in history when the S&P 500 doubled over a ten year period and the trajectory that this doubling took.

Please see here for a relevant chart: https://www.tradinggame.com.au/want-entertained-rich-choice/ 

Much commentary that followed on twitter related to the steady low volatility climb that characterised the latest run and how boring this was. One of the interesting thing about markets and money in general is that people betray their true desires and personality.

Markets are the true window into the soul and in this instance what traders were actually saying is that they wanted to be entertained and not rich. The constant current moaning about the lack of volatility is little more than the plaintiff cries of children who bedevil their parents every school holidays with cries of …I’m bored.

This lay observation tallies with what others have found. The seminal work in this field of trader immaturity is An Analysis of the Profiles and Motivations of Habitual Commodity Speculators by W.B. Canoles, S.R. Thompson, S.H. Irwin, and V.G. France. I have summarised their findings below and have added my own emphasis.

“The typical trader assumes a good deal of risk in most phases of his life. He is both an aggressive investor and an active gambler.

 [He] does not consider preservation of capital to be a very high trading priority.

As a result, he rarely uses stop loss orders. He wins more frequently than he loses (over 51% of the time) but is an overall net loser in dollar terms. In spite of recurring trading losses, he has never made any substantial change in his basic trading style.

To this trader, whether he won or lost on a particular trade is more important than the size of the win or loss. Thus he consistently cuts his profits short while letting his losses run.

 He also worries more about missing a move in the market by being on the sidelines than about losing by being on the wrong side of a market move; i.e., being in the action is more important than the financial consequences.

Participating brokers confirmed that for the majority of the speculators studied, the primary motivation for continuous trading is the recreational utility derived largely from having a market position.

Numerous indications in our survey indicate that they are not trading solely or even primarily for profit, but may be maximizing excitement or the number of winning trades.”

So we come back to the original question. Do you want to rich or be entertained as the choice is entirely yours.

Author: Chris Tate
Article reproduced with kind permission of Tradinggame.com.au.

The article is concluded by the quotes below:


“It's in your best interest to focus on building your trading skills rather than on achieving a huge profit every month.” – Joe Ross

“No matter how good you may think you are, nobody is bigger than the market and it will beat you to your knees if you don't treat it with the respect it deserves.” - Adrian Alberts 

“Trading does not have to be very difficult — what can be difficult is finding the right path early on and properly understanding the major impact of your mental state on your trading results” - Gabriel Grammatidis 



www.tallinex.com wants you to be a successful trader


Trading realities: http://www.advfnbooks.com/books/unlockpotential/index.html


I never knew about exchanging as a result of feeling or enthusiastic fulfillment. Exchanging is a major ordeal, question of tremendous measure of cash it's the main wellspring of salary for you and your family. You have a considerable measure of obligations to them so there is no choice of feeling. There is dependably the likelihood of losing cash, so when you have bills to pay, and you rely upon your benefits to pay them, it's unquestionably an extremely upsetting background.
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DO YOU WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED OR RICH?…IT’S YOUR CHOICE

I came across this excellent chart the other day. It shows those times in history when the S&P 500 doubled over a ten year period and the trajectory that this doubling took.

Please see here for a relevant chart: https://www.tradinggame.com.au/want-entertained-rich-choice/ 

Much commentary that followed on twitter related to the steady low volatility climb that characterised the latest run and how boring this was. One of the interesting thing about markets and money in general is that people betray their true desires and personality.

Markets are the true window into the soul and in this instance what traders were actually saying is that they wanted to be entertained and not rich. The constant current moaning about the lack of volatility is little more than the plaintiff cries of children who bedevil their parents every school holidays with cries of …I’m bored.

This lay observation tallies with what others have found. The seminal work in this field of trader immaturity is An Analysis of the Profiles and Motivations of Habitual Commodity Speculators by W.B. Canoles, S.R. Thompson, S.H. Irwin, and V.G. France. I have summarised their findings below and have added my own emphasis.

“The typical trader assumes a good deal of risk in most phases of his life. He is both an aggressive investor and an active gambler.

 [He] does not consider preservation of capital to be a very high trading priority.

As a result, he rarely uses stop loss orders. He wins more frequently than he loses (over 51% of the time) but is an overall net loser in dollar terms. In spite of recurring trading losses, he has never made any substantial change in his basic trading style.

To this trader, whether he won or lost on a particular trade is more important than the size of the win or loss. Thus he consistently cuts his profits short while letting his losses run.

 He also worries more about missing a move in the market by being on the sidelines than about losing by being on the wrong side of a market move; i.e., being in the action is more important than the financial consequences.

Participating brokers confirmed that for the majority of the speculators studied, the primary motivation for continuous trading is the recreational utility derived largely from having a market position.

Numerous indications in our survey indicate that they are not trading solely or even primarily for profit, but may be maximizing excitement or the number of winning trades.”

So we come back to the original question. Do you want to rich or be entertained as the choice is entirely yours.

Author: Chris Tate
Article reproduced with kind permission of Tradinggame.com.au.

The article is concluded by the quotes below:


“It's in your best interest to focus on building your trading skills rather than on achieving a huge profit every month.” – Joe Ross

“No matter how good you may think you are, nobody is bigger than the market and it will beat you to your knees if you don't treat it with the respect it deserves.” - Adrian Alberts 

“Trading does not have to be very difficult — what can be difficult is finding the right path early on and properly understanding the major impact of your mental state on your trading results” - Gabriel Grammatidis 



www.tallinex.com wants you to be a successful trader


Trading realities: http://www.advfnbooks.com/books/unlockpotential/index.html

This makes no sense to me, no single sense at all. Tell me, are you happy when you’re poor and don’t have any money? I don’t know for you, but if that’s okay with you then I’m a different person. You can’t be entertained when you have no money to afford that entertainment.

Instead of seeking for only entertainment like a fool, you should try to work hard and make money, when you have the money you will be able to entertain yourself. Money can get you anything you need, so I’m working for money and not entertainment.
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Emotional satisfaction ? I believe everyone goes into trading to make some profit. Trading may not necessarily be in tune with your emotions. If you follow your emotions you might make some bad mistakes. It's better to stick to plans than to go with your emotions.
What do you mean of emotional satisfaction here if it is trading and a business then why we are discussing and entering emotions in business? Trading is a process and people perform for making some money besides which we need not to express and relate our emotions here. All we need is to make money here trading with any currency which has chances of making profit.
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I never heard of trading because of emotion or  emotional satisfaction. Trading is a big deal, question of huge amount of money it's the only source of income for you and your family. You have a lot of responsibilities to them so there is no option of emotion. There is always the possibility of losing money, so when you have bills to pay, and you depend on your profits to pay them, it's definitely a very stressful experience.
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At first, I think trading as hard work and I always felt uncertain
but as time goes by I realized that I am having fun,
so for me I'd say both
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A new coin 3DES entered the etherdelta exchange. Got to study.
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I believe that the sole aim of trading is nothing but to make money and not for emotional satisfaction (even though you have other sources of income). Nobody wants to go into trading to incur loss, but when the profits are been made, it then brings about emotional satisfaction.
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Have you heard of 3des? An interesting project, now listed on etherdelta.
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Being able to make winning choices is certainly a source of satisfaction, but then it is also winning a video game.
It seems to me that the economic advantage far exceeds the "emotional satisfaction"
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99% of people in here are trading for money purposes, i am more than sure in that no one in here is trading only for a satisfaction or for hobby purposes, it is a joke.
sr. member
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I think most of them trade only for money. Not for just emotional satisfaction. In this world eveything has price except emotional. So i believe money is the main focus for everyone. May some might trade for emotion. not for all.
in any case, a lot of users joined the business of crypto currency because of the opportunities to become financially independent, and not because they wanted thrills. If someone wants to get emotions, then for this there are gambling or sports or computer games. And Business is business.
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I think most of them trade only for money. Not for just emotional satisfaction. In this world eveything has price except emotional. So i believe money is the main focus for everyone. May some might trade for emotion. not for all.
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Honestly, even when I earn, I do not feel a particular emotional satisfaction. Maybe who has a gambler mentality is happy, but I'm only interested in money. both way, the emotional issue tends to cancel out someone's potential to stay with a rational bias. It sinks its fleshhooks into your soul and steers your mind with it. you'll now not be able to make a proper decision. it is because they decided to imagine, surprise, or assume, in place of putting in the paintings to be certain of their gadget. Smiley
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Honestly, even when I earn, I do not feel a particular emotional satisfaction.
Maybe who has a gambler mentality is happy, but I'm only interested in money.
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It seems to me that these articles are written by journalists who have never tried to trade.
It is obvious that you are trading for money, because of "emotional satisfaction" there is very little.
Indeed, a lot of stress, a lot of regret, and many times money losses.
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I trade crypto and forex as a means of livelihood. I trade with my trading plan and follow it strictly. Emotions is never a traders friend just like trading against trend is also never a good gesture from any trader. Control your emotion and follow your plan in every trade.
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Profil is definetely a trigger. And also for majority of traders a main motivator. But in my case emotions also have important role because the feeling that you have the control and the feeling of satisfaction after a successful trading is great. So it's the combination of both.
For some traders adrenaline is the main motive and feeling, even more important than money and I can understand that.
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why am I trading? because I want to earn money and get my assets and it makes me very satisfied, I trade to be lucky and satisfied
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The dependably the objective of everyone, merchant or financial specialist in this marker is to get something in a decent restore this the motivation behind why we are working for having the cash. The vast majority exchange to pick up benefits to accomplish the point the objective. We plan to make increasingly, and profit and our objective are to keep up or to give a decent future to our family.
perhaps as early as 2009, crypto-currency was an entertainment for all users, but to date it is quite a serious business and is a very good earning money.
In my case, I trade for both. Money is something that can buy you everything that maximizes the utility and hence satisfaction. It can also be spent in charity works and to support kids for their education which is something that imparts the emotional satisfaction. Besides, it is good to be a sad rich man that a poor rich man if it comes to the fact that happiness cannot be bought with money.
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i am trade for money only but not a whole of my money. If you trade your money with emotion thats a 2 result "gain or loss". In my experience in a trading crypto currency the way your using your emotion sometimes you win sometimes you loss. Im not a satisfied for a 50/50. If you enter the trading this is like a business with a better plan just follow your plan cause this is your logic when you entry and when you exit moderate profit is enough for me.
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