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legendary
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September 19, 2021, 06:53:59 AM
Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.
And would be considerably higher if people weren't vaccinated. The vaccine confers protection* against the delta variant, as the data show.


Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.
Nope. That that's not what the data tell us at all. If you have inferred that, then your logic is flawed.




https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-unvaccinated-booster-65-serious-covid-19-cases-death-delta-1.10208784




* Not 100%, but some is better than none, right?
legendary
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September 19, 2021, 04:39:01 AM

Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.

Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.
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They'll say that they made a slight tweak to the code to correct for 'delta', but the overall gene therapy 'platform' remains the same so the 'approval' still stands.  They need to set the precedent to code for any protein they like without further tests and trials and I have zero doubt that they will.

The so-called useless eaters have no understanding of this stuff and no ability to do so even if they tried apparently.  Darwin strikes again I suppose.

legendary
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September 19, 2021, 04:16:18 AM
Frankly we do not have any option but to trust them,

Why is that? I do have that option and that means, you should too.

...we cannot stay without taking vaccine because it is much more riskier so i would advice to take your vaccines.

Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.

Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
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September 19, 2021, 02:39:45 AM
Yes i do trust covid-19 vaccine and i just took my second dose of covi-shield yesterday. Frankly we do not have any option but to trust them, we cannot stay without taking vaccine because it is much more riskier so i would advice to take your vaccines.

Good choice brother... its better to trust the minds of the one who specialize in that area, rather than the people who claims different things, and ready to jump from one conclusion to another
Oh yeh sure see sig "Scientists and vaccines" and check what scientist say about it


Wait until proven that Graphine oxide is in the so called vaccines
2015 Graphene oxide study in Jianghan University, Wuhan
https://www.htu.edu.cn/_upload/article/files/64/62/b903e2d24a8ea16936960e1369d2/a03f3bcb-90c3-480b-b640-6b4632e62284.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20210919072439/https://www.htu.edu.cn/_upload/article/files/64/62/b903e2d24a8ea16936960e1369d2/a03f3bcb-90c3-480b-b640-6b4632e62284.pdf

Conclusions
This study demonstrated toxicity in zebra fish caused by GO exposure. We found that:
❥ GO could cause toxic effects despiteit stendency to aggregate in suspensions during exposure
❥ Oxidative stress and tissue damage were induced in fish by GO through ROS, as indicated by the biomarkers MDA, GSH, SOD and CAT
❥ GO caused immunotoxicity in fish as indicated by increased expression of inflammatory cytokines, TNF-, IL-1 and IL-6



Maybe a good time start to grow own food or certified origin
https://youtu.be/vgtC4TPPJgo
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September 19, 2021, 02:31:55 AM
Yes i do trust covid-19 vaccine and i just took my second dose of covi-shield yesterday. Frankly we do not have any option but to trust them, we cannot stay without taking vaccine because it is much more riskier so i would advice to take your vaccines.

Good choice brother... its better to trust the minds of the one who specialize in that area, rather than the people who claims different things, and ready to jump from one conclusion to another
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September 19, 2021, 02:27:16 AM
Yes i do trust covid-19 vaccine and i just took my second dose of covi-shield yesterday. Frankly we do not have any option but to trust them, we cannot stay without taking vaccine because it is much more riskier so i would advice to take your vaccines.
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September 19, 2021, 02:25:47 AM
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You conveniently forget that the CDC also said that 94% of those who died from Covid really died from comorbidities. That makes only about 24,000 to have died from Covid when they said it... a mere drop in the proverbial bucket, not near enough to even start developing a vaccine for.


I don't forget, but I just not put it in this argument cause we are talking about "DEATHS CAUSED BY COVID VACCINATION".

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Also, you are avoiding the Lazarus files from https://openvaers.com/, at https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf, which show that only 1% are reported to the CDC.


Ohhhh so where does the 5:1 ratio came from? just a guess?  Huh

Logically speaking, I did my math right and the 5:1 ratio of death:save is a delusion
legendary
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September 18, 2021, 05:45:30 PM
Long time ago i was foolish enough to agree to a MRI scan. A common contrast agent in magnetic resonance imaging is “gadolinium” a toxic heavy metal (#64). Had I know then I would not have agreed to it. It was more for them to learn or make use of the newfangled machinery, i got nothing out of it. All my aches and pains over the years point to heavy metal poisoning.  
yea seems your obsessed with heavy metal poisoning. your still stuck on the 1990's conspiracy against cellphones which was started by land line companies who didnt like the competition.
maybe try to do your research that realise that every time a new band is released a new conspiracy spiral begins based on the same flawed logic and lack of facts.
oh and gadolinium comes out in your urine in 24-48 hours. so anything your feeling years later is unrelated.

Five six years ago, the last time the white coat has seem me i got a shot, could not move for 10 min afterwards and sore two days.
shows you body is reacting to it. which it should.
would you rather have a sore arm or be gasping for breath due to sore lungs..

The closest it came to something like this covid dis-ease was back in April 2020 or thereabouts.  Done with it in less than a day.
funny part is you were perfectly fine in april 2020. saying covid is fake and other people pretending to be sick must be related to 5G
im guessing your going to say your pretend sickness april 2020 was cellphone and aluminium related. maybe stop licking metal doorknobs and you wont get a headache when people shut their door in your face

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September 18, 2021, 04:11:20 PM
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Anyway, I already pinned 50% of doctors as being the Grim Reaper in disguise before the plandemic.  Now it's up around 90%.  So I'll just do my own work...

The only time the white coat to ever see me ever again is some kind of serious accident.
Over the years they have done enough damage already.
Long time ago i was foolish enough to agree to a MRI scan. A common contrast agent in magnetic resonance imaging is “gadolinium” a toxic heavy metal (#64). Had I know then I would not have agreed to it. It was more for them to learn or make use of the newfangled machinery, i got nothing out of it. All my aches and pains over the years point to heavy metal poisoning. 
Five six years ago, the last time the white coat has seem me i got a shot, could not move for 10 min afterwards and sore two days.
It was 100% not the right treatment, what i was given, don't know. Now is not the right time to find out, but i will find out.
As a kid the tonsils had to be removed I was told, luckily they still with me, another case they were wrong.

The closest it came to something like this covid dis-ease was back in April 2020 or thereabouts.  Done with it in less than a day.
legendary
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September 18, 2021, 02:10:11 PM
I've seen now three reports of protozoan parasites being claimed to have been found in some of the so-called 'vaccines'.  They have been suggest to be of the Toxoplasma genus and Trypanosoma genus respectively.

In researching this, I ran across something which may be of interest to some of the more technical among us.  Genus Trypanosoma seems to have a somewhat unique organelle they call a 'reservosome'.  This is interesting since a primary feature of many of these repurposed gene therapies is transporting materials protected in a lipid nanoparticle.  The somewhat novel organelle of Trypanosoma has some structural similarities already so it seems.

For those who are into this kind of stuff, here's a starting point:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/43559243_The_Reservosome_of_Trypanosoma_cruzi_Epimastigotes_An_Organelle_of_the_Endocytic_Pathway_with_a_Role_on_Metacyclogenesis

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One of the reasons that this subject interests me enough to look into a bit is that I got what would almost certainly have been diagnosed as 'covid' around the beginning of 2021.  In association I got what I was pretty sure was a parasitic infection of some sort, and it most closely matched Trypanosoma cruzi in symptoms.  The interesting thing is that such an infection is common in Africa (causing a very deadly disease called river blindness) and South America (Chagas disease) it is not supposed to be prevalent in SE Asia.

Alas, while antibody test kits are widely available for all manner of infections for medical professionals to rule out infections, doctors seem petrified to actually use them.  I have heard doctors claim that there are certain things which are very bad for a career to diagnose.  Anyway, I already pinned 50% of doctors as being the Grim Reaper in disguise before the plandemic.  Now it's up around 90%.  So I'll just do my own work...

...and I did.  I took Ivermectin in doses for parasites and the lingering conditions which are reminiscent of Trypanosoma infection (and certain phases of other protozoal parasitic infections) and it seemed surprisingly effective.  No, Ivermectin isn't the best for all potential parasitic infections, and yes, some other drugs in conjunction would probably be best, but Ivermectin and Ivermectin alone is what I have at this point.

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Just FWIW, from research long before the plandemic I was well aware of how parasites are often used to disseminate biological warfare agents and are key elements of a lot of non-lethal biological weapons systems.  I was also kind of expecting an attack for many years now, and I deduced that 2020 would be a likely time for one.  As such, I was somewhat primed to perk up my ears at the mention of parasitic infections.

As for graphene oxide folding into paramagnetic forms or acting as a binding matrix for other inorganic particles, I would immediately suspect that they are there at all, it would be there primarily for the purposes of interacting with electromagnetic fields (e.g., so-called '5G'.)  This is another thing which I was basically expecting to see at some point.

I'll point out again that nobody (who could possibly know) ever said these thing were not there.  They would be trade secrets.  Normies will assume that no such things are in the jab and the suggestion is preposterous.  Nobody is going to disabuse them of the assumption of course.  Just egg them on.  If ultimately it turns out that yes such things (metals, parasites, etc) are there after all, the normies will switch from 'knowing' they are not there to 'knowing' that they are and it is a desirable thing that we should be thankful to our saviors for injecting the life-saving technology into us.

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September 18, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Video Response To Vaccine Mandate.  
Lesbian black female tells Biden ‘You Ain’t My Pimp, N***a’
https://twitter.com/i/status/1436352364655648769  Grin
The Liberty. -- Tyranny tug of war marches on
legendary
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September 18, 2021, 12:28:51 PM
Vaccines kills 5 for every 1 it saves, public input in FDA 8 hr conference call

False. I don't have the luxury to watch that so I will based this from your ratio

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Data shows that 63% have been vaccinated and looking at the current population of US is about 328.2 million... therefore your claims states that out of 240 million vaccinated, 38.5 million was saved while 202.2 m dies as of this moment.

BUT
In a July 21, 2021 page update, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said it had received 6,207 reports of people who had died after receiving a COVID vaccine between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 19, 2021 (here ). But that came with clear caveats. On the same page, it says: “FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.”

Ohhhh only 6,207 dies from vaccine..... and all of those 6,207 are not even prove to be a death caused by the vaccine.

You conveniently forget that the CDC also said that 94% of those who died from Covid really died from comorbidities. That makes only about 24,000 to have died from Covid when they said it... a mere drop in the proverbial bucket, not near enough to even start developing a vaccine for.

Also, you are avoiding the Lazarus files from https://openvaers.com/, at https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf, which show that only 1% are reported to the CDC.

Wake up. The whole Covid thing is a flu hoax. The best benefit we are getting from the CDC flu scam is that we all can cure the flu in ourselves - and, coincidentally, all kinds of other things - with:
- mega-doses of vitamin C + Azithromycin + zinc
- mega-doses of vitamin D
- a little Ivermectin
- Budesonide
- MMS = chlorine dioxide
- Good nutrition and hygiene

How in the world dense are you going to continue being?

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September 18, 2021, 10:20:15 AM
Vaccines kills 5 for every 1 it saves, public input in FDA 8 hr conference call

False. I don't have the luxury to watch that so I will based this from your ratio

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Data shows that 63% have been vaccinated and looking at the current population of US is about 328.2 million... therefore your claims states that out of 240 million vaccinated, 38.5 million was saved while 202.2 m dies as of this moment.

BUT
In a July 21, 2021 page update, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said it had received 6,207 reports of people who had died after receiving a COVID vaccine between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 19, 2021 (here ). But that came with clear caveats. On the same page, it says: “FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.”

Ohhhh only 6,207 dies from vaccine..... and all of those 6,207 are not even prove to be a death caused by the vaccine.
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September 18, 2021, 07:47:59 AM
Vaccines kills 5 for every 1 it saves, public input in FDA 8 hr conference call
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4WxGbJe7o
and/or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RejEDQ1ni4
the full 8h
https://youtu.be/WFph7-6t34M
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September 18, 2021, 03:25:08 AM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?


Don't forget there's more than one vaccine in the world being tested right now. I'd better stick to social distancing for a while before they gather enough info about testing results

Me too, i will just follow the minimum health protocols than get vaccinated.  It takes many years to test the efficacy and safety of the vaccines. I don't want to become one of the lab rats,  i  will just wait and observe.
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September 16, 2021, 02:25:35 PM
A booster shot


Some people die from toxic injections, why, aren't toxins save?
https://humansarefree.com/2021/09/70-people-die-from-covid-vaccines-daily-usa.html

UK yellow card vaccine adverse effects reporting system page 81 swollen testicles
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018450/Pfizer.pdf
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September 15, 2021, 06:59:13 PM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?
I don't need to trust the covid-19 vaccine since the government had endorse it for use and to prevent her citizens from contracting the deadly Corona virus that had killed many persons including doctors, nurses and many other great men and women without considering there level of influence. The virus is deadly so we all need to take the vaccine, not considering what people are saying about the vaccine.
legendary
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September 15, 2021, 12:02:01 PM
^^^

WOW! Fauci Just Said The UNTHINKABLE...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAu6cJFRqfo


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More and more of the honest medical people are finding anomalies in the vaxx and what it does. Check the links in the article.

Anything to keep the vaxx going so that more people need to go to the medical for help. A vicious cycle, designed to encompass the lives of all people, making them and their decendants slaves to the medical, forever.


Idaho doctor reports “20 times increase” in cancer among those “vaccinated” for covid



Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist and diagnostics lab owner and operator based out of Idaho, has released shocking new information about how Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “vaccines” are causing a massive “uptick” in autoimmune diseases and cancer.

In a video produced by the Idaho state government’s “Capitol Clarity” project, Cole revealed how he is now seeing a 2,000 percent chronic illness increase in folks who took Donald “father of the vaccine” Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” injections.

“Since January 1, in the laboratory, I’m seeing a 20-times increase of endometrial cancers over what I see on an annual basis,” Cole stated in the video.

“I’m not exaggerating at all because I look at my numbers year over year, and I’m like ‘Gosh, I’ve never seen this many endometrial cancers before.'”

Cole revealed these and other statistics at a March 18 event, telling Idahoans that the so-called “vaccines” for the Fauci Flu are invoking a “reverse HIV” type of autoimmune response in people’s bodies.

A normal, well-functioning immune system has two types of cells that keep the body healthy: “helper” T-cells, also known as CD4, and “killer” T-cells, also known as CD8 cells. In the “fully vaccinated,” there is a massive suppression of “helper” T-cells, Cole warns, which leaves the patient susceptible to an array of illnesses.

“Post-vaccine, what we are seeing is a drop in your killer T-cells, in your CD8 cells,” Cole stated. “And what do CD8 cells do? They keep all other viruses in check.”
Is the government injecting people with HIV and calling it “covid vaccination?”

Cole’s claims resonate with the results of a study published in The Lancet late last year which found that Chinese Virus shots greatly increase a person’s risk of developing an HIV infection.

Could it be that the jabs are actually inserting HIV into people’s bodies under the guise of “vaccinating” them against Chinese Germs? Is everyone being lied to about what these vials truly contain?

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legendary
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September 15, 2021, 11:27:45 AM
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1437601768217747457

Do you happen to notice the almighty Dr. Fauci says nothing about diet and exercise anymore?

And diet/exercise is what will not only help your chance against Covid with or without a vaccine, it can help prevent many other diseases. So why is it so taboo to talk about having a healthy immune system, and keeping active?

I don't suggest an alterier motive, of course. I believe he is in good faith.

My theory is that he believes people are too stupid (and too lazy) to follow a good diet and exercise , that he doesn't not pursue this as a possible avenue, a preventative measure, if you will. That is, a vaccine is the easiest thing to hand a fat American, rather than an exercise plan and a salad.

But - does this mean we are not allowed to discuss it? It's almost as if you become an anti-science conspiracy theorist for mentioning that good diet and exercise is effective at preventing severe Covid illness, or any illness for that matter, just as Dr. Fauci mentioned in this 2019 interview.

So if you're not one to trust the vaccine, help your own immune system out - you'll depend on it.
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