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Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 18. (Read 20577 times)

hero member
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not your keys, not your coins!
September 15, 2021, 10:53:46 AM
The presentation takes bits of information from multiple sources and uses them as evidence to support an idea.
Here's the issue though: this is not how you do science. This is how conspiracy nutters and religious people 'prove' stuff, but these aren't scientific proofs.
You take a fixed conclusion (you call it 'idea') and look for sources that support it. This is not how it's done. This is not science. You do NOT start with a conclusion! Cheesy

Such 'genius ideas' (conclusions) that you can find 'evidence' for are for example: existence of a god, 911 conspiracy, flat earth, 'there is no global warming', to name a few.
legendary
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September 15, 2021, 12:55:49 AM
The vaccine does have it's good points, it saved this guy..


Lol.  That's one problem that fake-doctor Oileo and his groupies don't have to worry about at least.


Edit:  Here's one of said groupie cultists.  Franky1 perhaps?  https://www.bitchute.com/video/QLm7Ap3jvJNv/

  Dr. Fausti;  Give us vaccine,
    I think about you when I'm touching my ween.
  ...


Catchy!

This looks as fake as the other story which was a doctor holding the patient's hand and telling him "it is too late to take the vaccine now :,( ".

It is hilarious too. I mean what good is a man without a working cock? That's the whole point of a marriage and now the guy don't have 2 healthy nuts, the girl cancels the event. lmfao
sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
September 15, 2021, 12:00:15 AM
The vaccine does have it's good points, it saved this guy..


Lol.  That's one problem that fake-doctor Oileo and his groupies don't have to worry about at least.


Edit:  Here's one of said groupie cultists.  Franky1 perhaps?  https://www.bitchute.com/video/QLm7Ap3jvJNv/

 Dr. Fausti;  Give us vaccine,
    I think about you when I'm touching my ween.
  ...


Catchy!




Newscaster quickly stops  oxford professor as he says 70% will be sterilized with the vaccine
https://youtu.be/QadQTnxLfF8

Back in the old days people where a bit smarter, to partake in medical experiments they ask for large sum of money.
legendary
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September 14, 2021, 09:42:14 AM
The vaccine does have it's good points, it saved this guy..


Lol.  That's one problem that fake-doctor Oileo and his groupies don't have to worry about at least.


Edit:  Here's one of said groupie cultists.  Franky1 perhaps?  https://www.bitchute.com/video/QLm7Ap3jvJNv/

  Dr. Fausti;  Give us vaccine,
    I think about you when I'm touching my ween.
  ...


Catchy!

sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
September 14, 2021, 08:45:09 AM
The vaccine does have it's good points, it saved this guy..
newbie
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September 14, 2021, 08:38:13 AM
Government have approved the covid19 vaccines.safety is always a priority as federal agencies work with vaccines manufacturers.ti to be more assured, all vaccines go through clinical trials to test safety and effectiveness for the covid19 vaccines. Hence,I am fully in site of covid19 vaccines,and regarding it trust worthy.
legendary
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September 14, 2021, 08:31:05 AM
A link to Wikipedia? Cool. I'll keep waiting.

I'll monitor the feeds for official state-sanctioned 'studies' and 'papers' which come out regularly and are regularly picked apart by real scientists within hours.  It's actually kind of fun to watch.

These 'papers' and 'studies' are slowing down because the corp/gov sponsored 'scientists' are getting gun-shy with their names on the things.  It's humiliating for one, and for two it's increasingly obvious that they are involving themselves in genuine crimes for which there could be legal fallout.  And the fallout could actually be a threat to life and limb for these crooks depending on how things go.  The kickbacks and promotions may actually not be worth the risk to them so it seems.

legendary
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September 14, 2021, 08:22:25 AM
A link to Wikipedia? Cool. I'll keep waiting.
legendary
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September 14, 2021, 08:12:47 AM
Please link to the peer reviewed randomized control trial or meta-analysis performed by all these studious anti-vaxxers which show vaccines don't work. I'll wait.

Oh, that's easy:  Israel.  They are already planning their 4th dose.

There are a particular number of credible 'randomized control trial or meta-analysis' papers showing that the so-called vaccine does anything useful toward the putative 'SARS-cov-2 virus in the face of obvious real-world evidence to the contrary.  That would be zero, and the simple reason is because it doesn't.

legendary
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September 14, 2021, 08:01:37 AM
There was nothing whatsoever to respond to in a 'scientific' sense.
You could try addressing while all your "sources" are one conspiracy nut quoting another conspiracy nut, and are completely devoid of any studies, trials, data, evidence, or facts.

I'm still waiting:
Please link to the peer reviewed randomized control trial or meta-analysis performed by all these studious anti-vaxxers which show vaccines don't work. I'll wait.
legendary
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September 14, 2021, 07:58:57 AM
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No rebuttal so ad hominem attacks. How very scientific of you. Roll Eyes

Just a response in kind to yours.  There was nothing whatsoever to respond to in a 'scientific' sense.  Typical.

legendary
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September 14, 2021, 07:56:19 AM
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No rebuttal so ad hominem attacks. How very scientific of you. Roll Eyes
legendary
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September 14, 2021, 07:54:28 AM

ROFL.  Obviously, you have no idea how to look for scientific, peer-reviewed papers.  So I am going to help you.

Try
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Science


You obviously didn't read or cannot understand (or both) the context of the conversation.

Anyway, I do science.  Not scientism.  Wikipedia can be useful for some things, but certainly nothing which is under attack by your programmers.  That was evident two decades ago for those of us who have been around that long, and we use it with appropriate care for that reason.

legendary
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September 14, 2021, 07:36:43 AM
legendary
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September 14, 2021, 07:32:55 AM
I know you've never actually read a scientific paper, but if you ever do you'll note 100+ references at the end to trials, meta-analyses, studies, systematic reviews, you know - actual evidence. Not just one conspiracy nut quoting another conspiracy nut, as if two people both saying the same unsubstantiated nonsense somehow makes it real. Roll Eyes

With material like the above you can impress a gaggle of your 'merit-point-circle-jerk' friends (and usually 'groupies' with your 'I'm a doctor' shtick), but I doubt very many others.  Knock yourself out if it make you feel good.  Ultimately idiots like your groupie friends don't amount to a fart in the wind in the scheme of things.  They are basically NPCs, and some of them may be in a literal sense.  Don't take my word for it.  Your beloved sole-source of information, the CDC, says so themselves:



https://summit.news/2021/04/09/cdc-raises-eyebrows-for-using-character-image-almost-identical-to-npc-meme/

legendary
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September 14, 2021, 06:43:19 AM
I know you've never actually read a scientific paper, but if you ever do you'll note 100+ references at the end to trials, meta-analyses, studies, systematic reviews, you know - actual evidence. Not just one conspiracy nut quoting another conspiracy nut, as if two people both saying the same unsubstantiated nonsense somehow makes it real. Roll Eyes
legendary
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September 14, 2021, 04:48:28 AM
Ahh yes, Twitter and Fox news, those two bastions of facts and evidence.  Roll Eyes

You throw in a handful of links to medical journals to make it look like you maybe have some idea of what you are talking about, knowing that most other anti-vax morons won't click on a single one and definitely won't read them, but the links you provide don't prove a single one of your claims. This one, for example - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3370379/ - just talks about myocarditis and does not mention COVID or COVID vaccines even once. This one - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.03.21263103v1.full.pdf - just says that if you get COVID once you probably won't get it again. You know, like a bunch of other diseases.

Your bullshit is very transparent.

I know this must be a very alien concept to you, but some people don't just get everything they need from one source who just tells them everything they need to know without further documentation or even discussion.  Even one real government source!

The presentation takes bits of information from multiple sources and uses them as evidence to support an idea.  The show notes are extensive because the creator is dilligent about showing from whence he derived the information.  This is so that the audience can verify things and follow up more easily.  A lot of times the link will be to an article or information source where the author is pointing out how deceptive they are being.

Again, I understand that this idea of documenting sources and linking to information is a novel concept which many people cannot even get their minds around.  We people who have moved beyond the simplistic form of 'learning' can only shake our heads.

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That said, I finally got squared away and have come around and realized the error of my ways due to another 'anti-vaxxer':  https://www.bitchute.com/video/jzCG5tEVXBV1/  Funny enough, the guys is about as convincing as the folks on the corp/gov authorize media:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/EP3UOenzywAn/

legendary
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September 14, 2021, 02:53:10 AM
Ahh yes, Twitter and Fox news, those two bastions of facts and evidence.  Roll Eyes

You throw in a handful of links to medical journals to make it look like you maybe have some idea of what you are talking about, knowing that most other anti-vax morons won't click on a single one and definitely won't read them, but the links you provide don't prove a single one of your claims. This one, for example - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3370379/ - just talks about myocarditis and does not mention COVID or COVID vaccines even once. This one - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.03.21263103v1.full.pdf - just says that if you get COVID once you probably won't get it again. You know, like a bunch of other diseases.

Your bullshit is very transparent.
jr. member
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September 14, 2021, 01:52:24 AM
This vaccine only prevents disease, but it will not eliminate it at all. It just improves our immunity. I saw that some of them who had been vaccinated also died unfortunately. Vaccination is just a comfort in our hearts. I don't believe this,honestly I have been vaccinated.
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