Do you want to create your own state? - page 4.

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Quote from: yoseph on January 29, 2018, 02:52:07 PM

The latest people who tried creating their own country are currently on a self imposed exile and seceding from a country takes a lot of money and most of the time it is very violent, sometimes war are fought in order to achieve it and i simply think that it is simply not worth it.

I see. But this is a question of acceptability of living conditions. I really do not like certain moments in the life of my country. But I understand that this can not be corrected. Because this is the mentality of this people.

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Quote from: KITTYCOIN on Waves on January 28, 2018, 04:19:32 AM

The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are

) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

There are many countries and cityes, you always can choose what you want

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Quote from: Cryptotango on January 29, 2018, 11:03:12 AM

No prisons? So all the murderers, rapists, robbers etc. will be on freedom?

Kill or deport depending on the severity of the deed. Or other forms of punishment. Why keep a person in a cage? What's the point of this?

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Quote from: KITTYCOIN on Waves on January 28, 2018, 04:19:32 AM

The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are

) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

For me i have no right to create my own state because I don't have a power for it I'm a simple kind of a citizen in my country

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Quote from: Samkol26 on January 29, 2018, 01:15:37 AM

Hmmm.. No prison , no law without punishment...

If you make a country without prison and punishment, I can not imagine how the state can stand. and how the state can be just for every citizen.

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Quote from: KITTYCOIN on Waves on January 28, 2018, 04:19:32 AM

The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are

) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

The latest people who tried creating their own country are currently on a self imposed exile and seceding from a country takes a lot of money and most of the time it is very violent, sometimes war are fought in order to achieve it and i simply think that it is simply not worth it.

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Quote from: KITTYCOIN on Waves on January 28, 2018, 04:19:32 AM

Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.)

No prisons? So all the murderers, rapists, robbers etc. will be on freedom?

KITTYCOIN on Waves

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Quote from: Stegobit on January 29, 2018, 01:31:48 AM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on January 28, 2018, 01:00:41 PM

No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.

Restitution model that really worked in Icelandic Commonwealth is much more effective and humane than prisons.

Thank you for understanding! Indeed, there are many other opportunities besides prisons. Prisons are a barbaric remnant of the past.

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Quote from: Palmholder on January 29, 2018, 01:20:44 AM

This is great idea, but it is utopia. Best representatives of the human race dont need police, censorship or any other limits surely, but who they are? How will you find them among all of us? People may pretend to be anyone to get scores they need.
Besides which authorities or state let people to create such country, what is their interest? People in power are not best but strong and smart representatives of the human race, and they wish to keep their power forewer

Yes, it sounds very reasonable, thank you.

Separating the "grain from the chaff" (-: we initially will not do it at all - just a simple desire to participate in this is a good indicator in itself. In addition, desire is an indispensable condition, without it - in any way.

Then, as the community grows, we will jointly develop some simple tests. This all is solved. Many of us are programmers. We are used to solving similar tasks while writing programs. The main thing is to find the basic consensus among themselves. Basic unshakable principles.

And about other governments ... we'll just buy them. Why invent something? They are all corrupt. We will give them a little money - they will give us a piece of land under the state. We can do this, for example, in Haiti. Haiti is a completely poor country, there it will not be very expensive.

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Quote from: lodi123 on January 29, 2018, 12:21:32 AM

No I can not create I don't have any power to create my own state I have my leaders to follow and rules and regulations to follow as s citizen of my state

All right. Each of us has not enough strength to do this one by herself. For this, we need a blokchain and the Kittycoin project (-:

I'm looking for like-minded people around the world. I have long wanted to do this. But there were no tools. But recently I learned about the blockchain, and I realized that this is it.

We can make a direct e-democracy without falsification. And much more.

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Quote from: Samkol26 on January 29, 2018, 01:15:37 AM

Hmmm.. No prison , no law without punishment...

I completely agree. But it is prisons that are not an indispensable attribute of punishment. For small faults - public repentance and compensation for damage. If a person is openly anti-social - deportation. For terrible crimes - death. It is quite possible to do without prisons.

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on January 28, 2018, 01:00:41 PM

I think you're being a bit too idealist sweetie. That we still have a lot of problems mean we still haven't found the "right" laws, or else we'd be living in a perfect society.

No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.

So the fact is, that in our country will not be all who are insane, as it usually is. But those who pass certain filters. In other words: reasonable people CAN build a reasonable society.

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...Separate the "sane" from "insane" will be together, on the basis of consensus. Blokchain (-:

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Quote from: Ridulus on January 28, 2018, 07:50:22 AM

You are talking about smth utopian. How will you divide people to worthy and unworthy ones? Grin

Not a "worthy" but the "sane".

1. IQ above 110
2. Do not use drugs (including cigarettes and alcohol) systematically.
3. Does not lend itself to propaganda by "fakenews".
4. Loves cats (-:
5. Is creative.
6. Can communicate and negotiate with others.
7. Something else.

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Quote from: lodi123 on January 29, 2018, 12:21:32 AM

I have my leaders to follow and rules and regulations to follow as s citizen of my state

Government officials are not the God and must have the same rights with you!

Quote from: merchantofzeny on January 28, 2018, 01:00:41 PM

No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.

Restitution model that really worked in Icelandic Commonwealth is much more effective and humane than prisons.

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This is great idea, but it is utopia. Best representatives of the human race dont need police, censorship or any other limits surely, but who they are? How will you find them among all of us? People may pretend to be anyone to get scores they need.
Besides which authorities or state let people to create such country, what is their interest? People in power are not best but strong and smart representatives of the human race, and they wish to keep their power forewer

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Hmmm.. No prison , no law without punishment...

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Quote from: KITTYCOIN on Waves on January 28, 2018, 04:19:32 AM

The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are

) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

No I can not create I don't have any power to create my own state I have my leaders to follow and rules and regulations to follow as s citizen of my state

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The most right laws are those that don't change and don't correspond for a president / leader of the country all the time.

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Quote from: KITTYCOIN on Waves on January 28, 2018, 04:19:32 AM

The idea here is as follows: to gather the best representatives of the human race (we are

) within the framework of a single project-state. Set RIGHT laws (no prisons, no censorship, etc.) - would you like to live (at least sometimes) in such country?

I think you're being a bit too idealist sweetie. That we still have a lot of problems mean we still haven't found the "right" laws, or else we'd be living in a perfect society.

No prisons? You're putting too much faith that people would act their best. That there are communities where prisons go unused doesn't mean that would apply to everyone.

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