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legendary
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November 06, 2013, 01:06:38 AM
If you or anyone is truly open minded about god and wants to see/understand/connect to god themselves, I recommend you explore realms of the consciousness that you have not before,
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If you do not want to touch drugs, try laying down in a silent environment, or to some binural beats.  Relax your mind, focus solely on the breath, send all thoughts into the realms of outer space.  Relax your muscles starting at your feet and move your way up your body, over and over.  Relax until you completely let go of your body.  You will feel your body dissolve into energy, at this point you can try and move it (the energy) side to side to gain energy or you can even lift up as if you're arm is leaving your body.  This may take many tries but if you truly want to find your consciousness and what it is capable of doing, it's worth practicing.

It's funny, and somewhat telling, that you think I've never done this. Unlike you, I simply never diluted myself into thinking it was something that it was not.
legendary
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November 06, 2013, 01:05:24 AM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.



Then I got better.

This saddens me Rassah. Cry  You are the one I am praying for the most on here, like it or not. I know you are convinced that God is not real ....
Salvation, redemption and so forth may be either TO or FROM....

When he says honestly that he's made a movement to the better, I can't see why not to accept that at face value. 

Because that movement was AWAY from "Jesus"?  The problem with double talk such as "oh but that must not have been the True Jesus, try a different one" is the True Scotsman logical fallacy.  The problem with arguing that "Oh that Catholic church thats Man's creation that's not God" is that argument can be never proven or disproven, thus it can be used anywhere and anything against or for anything.

It is like if someone said "I'm doing much better since I stopped drinking".   Ok, fine.  Then someone else walks up and says "I've started drinking and I like it."  Ok, that's fine too.  The one statement does not contradict the truth of the other.



Sure.  It might be better for a while.  Drinking is great for a while.  Someone could totally get drunk every night and say, "I like it" then die of alcohol poisoning.  Then it would not be as much fun would it? 

A verse that comes to mind is "Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial."
legendary
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November 06, 2013, 01:00:55 AM
It is like if someone said "I'm doing much better since I stopped drinking".   Ok, fine.  Then someone else walks up and says "I've started drinking and I like it."  Ok, that's fine too.  The one statement does not contradict the truth of the other.

Oooh, I like that! Definitely going to have to try to remember this one.
legendary
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November 06, 2013, 12:54:40 AM
Right, but the name-of-him-who-we-call-today-Jesus was a common name.

Jesus wasn't. Yehua (sp?) was. But yes, very common. It's like seeing that the name "Bob" is in the White Pages, and claiming "See? Bob the god really did exist!"

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I don't know about that.  That name "rassah" sounds, well, like the kind of name of someone who was a real troublemaker.  I know them when I hear them.  And let me tell you, you hang out around a few Roman Centurians, they say "Chump, what's your name" and you say "Rassah" and they say "What?" and you say "Rassah, SIR" and they say "Rassah, eh?"

Methinks that's like, on a slow and boring night, gonna be some trouble for Rassah...

Confession time, and sorry if I ruin it for everyone. When I was a kid (14 maybe), joining the furry fandom, I had to pick an animal persona to role-play and make up a name (furries are f'in weird, yes). I picked a panther, and wanted make up a name that was somehow related to big cats. So, a Rrrrr growl sound that panthers/leopards make, plus cat hissing, resulted in rrrrra sssss ah. I just added the "ah" to make it sound like a name, and the name Rassah was formed (accent on first a). It was pretty much just my name everywhere on the internet until some third world north African and middle Eastern countries joined. Now I'm only aware of three other real Rassah's in the world.
Hope I didn't make things uncomfortably weird for anyone going forward (and feel free to rrrr and hiss when you say my name)  Grin
legendary
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November 06, 2013, 12:53:28 AM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.



Then I got better.

This saddens me Rassah. Cry  You are the one I am praying for the most on here, like it or not. I know you are convinced that God is not real (or I think perhaps deep down you are just ticked at him)

I'm not ticked, but the "convinced" is not the correct term. I am not convinced that there is no god. I just don't see any evidence for his existence. The best I can do to illustrate is to ask a question (and hopefully you have never heard this term): are you convinced that Baba Yaga doesn't exist? You probably can't answer this question, because you don't know what Baba Yaga is (though she was a frequent part of my childhood folklore), and after you Google her, likely think the very question is silly. You don't even have to ponder her existence, since she is simply not a part of your life. You know she is a made up character from story books, and to consider whether or not she is real would be rather insane.
So, in the same way that you are not-so-much convinced as simply consider the idea of pondering whether she exists to be preposterous and ridiculous, I consider the idea of pondering whether god exists to be ridiculous as well. To me it is as productive to consider as it would be to wonder whether to be convinced that there is a teapot orbiting the sun on the other side where we can't see it. Sure? Maybe? It sounds silly, and why does it matter?

Why does it matter?

It matters because YOU matter! God cares about you!  He cares about all of us!  We are not just randomly here by chance.  There is more to us then just random molecules that just happened by chance.  We are created in God's image and he wants to have a relationship with us.  I just think that there have been things that have caused you to question God's existence.  Those things shook you to your core and left you feeling like there could not be a God if he allowed these things to happen.  I do get that.  I have questioned things in my life too.  But God's existence in not about me being upset with how He does things, or doesn't do things.  It is about trusting that even when things do not make sense, even when He does not bring justice as swiftly as I would like (granted I prefer Him to be patient with me all of the time) He still is God.  He still loves us and in the end everything will be made right.  Sure we are in this fallen world that is not perfect, but there will come a day when all things will be made right.
legendary
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November 06, 2013, 12:44:54 AM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.



Then I got better.

This saddens me Rassah. Cry  You are the one I am praying for the most on here, like it or not. I know you are convinced that God is not real (or I think perhaps deep down you are just ticked at him)

I'm not ticked, but the "convinced" is not the correct term. I am not convinced that there is no god. I just don't see any evidence for his existence. The best I can do to illustrate is to ask a question (and hopefully you have never heard this term): are you convinced that Baba Yaga doesn't exist? You probably can't answer this question, because you don't know what Baba Yaga is (though she was a frequent part of my childhood folklore), and after you Google her, likely think the very question is silly. You don't even have to ponder her existence, since she is simply not a part of your life. You know she is a made up character from story books, and to consider whether or not she is real would be rather insane.
So, in the same way that you are not-so-much convinced as simply consider the idea of pondering whether she exists to be preposterous and ridiculous, I consider the idea of pondering whether god exists to be ridiculous as well. To me it is as productive to consider as it would be to wonder whether to be convinced that there is a teapot orbiting the sun on the other side where we can't see it. Sure? Maybe? It sounds silly, and why does it matter?
legendary
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November 05, 2013, 08:57:32 PM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.



Then I got better.

I have a similar story, but it ends with "then I turned 13."
legendary
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November 05, 2013, 08:10:33 PM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.

Then I got better.

You are the one I am praying for the most on here, like it or not. 

Lucky you Rassah!  Tonight bitchick will be ignoring her husband; she will be on her knees, rubbing her hands together and thinking of YOU!    Wink

Vod, you are just jealous!   Grin
legendary
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You cannot kill love
November 05, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
You should have some faith when I say I've held back a piece of a cloud from moving\

Have faith?  In YOU?     Cheesy

Your mind is so destroyed I know you believe what you spew, but it just didn't happen.
Then why did other people see it stop moving?

Yes, you should have faith in me.  For I am you.  And I love you unconditionally.
Your friends were just screwing with you. One of them was actually the one who stopped the cloud, but made you think you did it to make fun of you. You have terrible friends.
This is false.  After I stopped the cloud, I told them to try and they both did successfully.

Just like when I fly, others will try and succeed.

And for anybody that may want to know.  I was always an atheist, I had no god in my life.  I never believed in god, but I wanted to, I simply couldn't believe in something I didn't understand.  I believed/found understanding of god when I experienced it firsthand through psychedelics, god's gift for man to connect to god with, quite responsible for many major evolution advancements throughout history.  I found understanding of Jesus simply by living.

Rassah, I can see why you don't believe.  You don't understand what an all encompassing consciousness consists of because you haven't experienced it or surpassed life experiences to the point you could form a belief.

If you or anyone is truly open minded about god and wants to see/understand/connect to god themselves, I recommend you explore realms of the consciousness that you have not before, be it through mediation, astral projection, smoking cannabis, or eating a psychedelic.  If you do not want to touch drugs, try laying down in a silent environment, or to some binural beats.  Relax your mind, focus solely on the breath, send all thoughts into the realms of outer space.  Relax your muscles starting at your feet and move your way up your body, over and over.  Relax until you completely let go of your body.  You will feel your body dissolve into energy, at this point you can try and move it (the energy) side to side to gain energy or you can even lift up as if you're arm is leaving your body.  This may take many tries but if you truly want to find your consciousness and what it is capable of doing, it's worth practicing.

And vod, you don't need to be on your knees to pray.  I will also pray for Rassah, all of you, perhaps we can bring some light to his realm.
legendary
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November 05, 2013, 07:51:13 PM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.



Then I got better.

This saddens me Rassah. Cry  You are the one I am praying for the most on here, like it or not. I know you are convinced that God is not real ....
Salvation, redemption and so forth may be either TO or FROM....

When he says honestly that he's made a movement to the better, I can't see why not to accept that at face value. 

Because that movement was AWAY from "Jesus"?  The problem with double talk such as "oh but that must not have been the True Jesus, try a different one" is the True Scotsman logical fallacy.  The problem with arguing that "Oh that Catholic church thats Man's creation that's not God" is that argument can be never proven or disproven, thus it can be used anywhere and anything against or for anything.

It is like if someone said "I'm doing much better since I stopped drinking".   Ok, fine.  Then someone else walks up and says "I've started drinking and I like it."  Ok, that's fine too.  The one statement does not contradict the truth of the other.

Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
November 05, 2013, 07:45:34 PM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.

Then I got better.

You are the one I am praying for the most on here, like it or not. 

Lucky you Rassah!  Tonight bitchick will be ignoring her husband; she will be on her knees, rubbing her hands together and thinking of YOU!    Wink
legendary
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November 05, 2013, 07:43:43 PM
There were no "just_me"s, no "pedrag", no "Spendulus" (if there twer it twat a Roman), no hawkeye, but...Rassah, dank, Vod, and Ekaros, you guys names may have been crucified.

Jesus isn't really even his real name. That's just a bastardized anglicized version. I'm surprised devout Christians don't call Jesus by his actual name. I guess they don't care...

Rassah is actually a totally unique name. I pretty much pulled it out of my ass. Though I see that there are some other Rassah's, likely with accent on the second A, as opposed to mine with accent on the first, living in Middle East... Weird how almost nothing is original any more (no, not even the bible, much of which was plundered from more ancient religions)
Right, but the name-of-him-who-we-call-today-Jesus was a common name.

I don't know about that.  That name "rassah" sounds, well, like the kind of name of someone who was a real troublemaker.  I know them when I hear them.  And let me tell you, you hang out around a few Roman Centurians, they say "Chump, what's your name" and you say "Rassah" and they say "What?" and you say "Rassah, SIR" and they say "Rassah, eh?"

Methinks that's like, on a slow and boring night, gonna be some trouble for Rassah...

You got to think about what it was like back then with no television.  It was the crooked dice game, or drinking, or pillaging and raping villages, or making fun and likely beating people to a pulp that had funny names.
legendary
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November 05, 2013, 07:29:53 PM
I used to believe in Jesus Christ with all my heart. I was a practicing Catholic, went to church every week, prayed often, and felt God's warm embrace in my life.



Then I got better.

This saddens me Rassah. Cry  You are the one I am praying for the most on here, like it or not. I know you are convinced that God is not real (or I think perhaps deep down you are just ticked at him) but in spite of that, He loves you anyway and misses you so much.  Why would I feel this compelling desire to pray for you more than anyone else on here?  Call me crazy if you want.  And as for growing up Catholic, the Catholic church is not perfect (no church is perfect) But they do some things to instill guilt more than love and rules more than grace then some other churches.  Perhaps you should open your mind to a different denomination?  Perhaps it is things done by the "church" and not God that tick you off the most?  Something to think about anyways.
legendary
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November 05, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
You should have some faith when I say I've held back a piece of a cloud from moving\

Have faith?  In YOU?     Cheesy

Your mind is so destroyed I know you believe what you spew, but it just didn't happen.
Then why did other people see it stop moving?

Yes, you should have faith in me.  For I am you.  And I love you unconditionally.
Your friends were just screwing with you. One of them was actually the one who stopped the cloud, but made you think you did it to make fun of you. You have terrible friends.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
November 05, 2013, 07:02:34 PM
I have only tried it once, with 100% success rate.  I will not try it again because my mind does not vibrate on the frequencies it used to after 2012 and being molested with antipsychotics.  It may take some years before I can do that again.  Of course the cloud was moving. Tongue

Vod, sorry to hear that.  I love you infinitely, I hope you know this and one day will feel it.

No idea what the word "love" means to you, but thanks anyway nut job.   Cheesy
legendary
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You cannot kill love
November 05, 2013, 06:56:07 PM
I have only tried it once, with 100% success rate.  I will not try it again because my mind does not vibrate on the frequencies it used to after 2012 and being molested with antipsychotics.  It may take some years before I can do that again.  Of course the cloud was moving. Tongue

Vod, sorry to hear that.  I love you infinitely, I hope you know this and one day will feel it.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
November 05, 2013, 06:53:55 PM
Then why did other people see it stop moving?

Yes, you should have faith in me.  For I am you.  And I love you unconditionally.

I believe you love me as much as I believe you you stopped a cloud from moving.

 Cheesy  You're such a whack job - you and the cultists in this thread are amusing.

hero member
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November 05, 2013, 06:45:56 PM
You should have some faith when I say I've held back a piece of a cloud from moving\

Have faith?  In YOU?     Cheesy

Your mind is so destroyed I know you believe what you spew, but it just didn't happen.
Then why did other people see it stop moving?

Yes, you should have faith in me.  For I am you.  And I love you unconditionally.

How many times you failed in that trick? And was the cloud moving to start with? Grin
legendary
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You cannot kill love
November 05, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
You should have some faith when I say I've held back a piece of a cloud from moving\

Have faith?  In YOU?     Cheesy

Your mind is so destroyed I know you believe what you spew, but it just didn't happen.
Then why did other people see it stop moving?

Yes, you should have faith in me.  For I am you.  And I love you unconditionally.
hero member
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November 05, 2013, 06:38:22 PM
I don't even know if there was any greek dude name Ekaros... I doubt it, but who knows, likely no documentation...

Εκαρος

I highly doubt, and most likely would haven't been crucified anyway that stuff was for the really evil folks...

EDIT:

I found the word in some work, sadly my studies in archaic-Greece were really really sort. And I don't care to bother my frieds who might have studied it...
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