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Quote from: posi on September 28, 2023, 08:25:19 AM

In theory, not only bitcoin but all other assets, their value is determined by supply and demand. But as a financial market, do you think everything will be determined entirely by supply and demand? Manipulation is inevitable. Even a market worth 10 trillion USD like gold, or with a capitalization of up to 80 trillion USD like stocks can still be manipulated, a small market like cryptocurrency with just over 1 trillion USD cannot be manipulated? Not only are miners manipulating the market, there are also many factions trying to manipulate it for their own profit.

I would say not exactly, a bit maybe but not completely. Stocks for example, if we are talking about stocks of a company then I am sure that it is not going to be as wild as bitcoin.

Because even though it could be manipulated, there is a strict financial statement of any company, which means that you can't just have a company valued at 20 million, when they have 40 million just in cash. Obviously you "can" if you want to, if enough people sell it, but that doesn't mean that it is going to be fine, it is just not going to be smart, someone else will swoop in and buy it. Not in bitcoin, it can drop any price it wants and go up to any price it wants, it is just possible and not going to really matter at all on the long term.

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Bitcoin halving is like a nice viral sensation. However, always remember that prices can rise and fluctuate quickly after this incident, whether for a moment or for a long duration, but history records that the Bitcoin Halving is the timing for the BTC price to rise higher because if we flash back to the Halving in 2020, it reduced the new supply of Bitcoin by 43% compared to the previous halving and the impact on prices reaching 23% is very significant of course. But, what level it will rise to is so far only predictions from various observers who like to track prices.

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Quote from: kentrolla on September 29, 2023, 05:21:02 PM

I am afraid this might lead to disappointment as we will only see a temporary pump as everyone has a misconception that price will skyrocket post halving or even before halving due to which there would be from demand in the market due to FOMO but we need to understand one thing that Bitcoin is not dependent on halving for its growth rather it just play a minor role.

I think there is nothing to fear here when the supply of bitcoin decreases and demand increases at the same time, the price tends to increase due to the scarcity factor so before the halving the price of bitcoin was increasing every month. But after the halving the value of bitcoin began to fall as its supply was low and demand increased bitcoin is known as an investment because of its volatility and risk. But by then the price is fixed so you can invest during that period to earn some significant money. I won't see any temporary pump in bitcoin even if the price goes down it will rise again just wait patiently.

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Quote from: TheSpiral on September 29, 2023, 02:50:48 AM

The word halving is spreaded everywhere but the occurrence of it is not swear to the fact because as crypto is volatile and unrevealed so same is the reality of its each event. People are accepting bitcoin due to halving and because of this acceptance halving can occur because we know that as more people are buying bitcoin so increase will be cause by this.

Totally agree, halving does have the influence to increase a short term demand as we approach this day but to say "People are accepting Bitcoin due to halving" you lost me here buddy as it sounds like you saying adoption will be happening because of it.

Quote from: TheSpiral on September 29, 2023, 02:50:48 AM

This increase will be for minimum time according to spectators because more people will find the suitable time to sell their bitcoin

This is one of the reasons why actual halving effects take time to be seen, as everyone won't see the prices they thought BTC would jump to because of it and would sell after the halving itself.
So halving will result in a slight drop before the big move, so for this most awaited event people need to think long-term.

Quote from: kentrolla on September 29, 2023, 05:21:02 PM

I am afraid this might lead to disappointment as we will only see a temporary pump as everyone has a misconception that price will skyrocket post halving or even before halving due to which there would be from demand in the market due to FOMO

True, and its the FOMO before the halving that causes the temporary raise and the disappointment in the small moves that will cause it to drop before the big boys buy off the weak hands who choose to sell post halving to profit from the small gains.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on September 25, 2023, 02:35:23 PM

Halving events have frequently been associated with increase in price of bitcoin with significant upward momentum both before and after halving. Bitcoin halving often generate increased market attention and hype. Expectation of lower supply and likely price increase may fuel positive feelings amongst investors and traders.

As for the past halving that happened, bitcoin price clearly goes upward. You can take that as a reference.

But for me, it's not that because of halving why bitcoin price just goes up. It has many factors that contribute to its upward path.

And even without halving, expect that bitcoin has no way to go but to go up. There at lots of reasons why it should happened.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on September 25, 2023, 02:35:23 PM

Halving events have frequently been associated with increase in price of bitcoin with significant upward momentum both before and after halving. Bitcoin halving often generate increased market attention and hype. Expectation of lower supply and likely price increase may fuel positive feelings amongst investors and traders.

Yes, halving event is the best indicator that will help to increase the value of Bitcoin but that increase won't come just after the halving event.

The Bitcoin's price will see increase after the halving event and after 12-17 months we can see the ATH once again.

If wee see the history of Bitcoin's ATH then we can easily see that after the halving event it took Bitcoin at least a year or more to see another ATH once again and I believe that history will repeat itself once again this time.

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OP's hasn't been interested in answers he's got for his question. I don't know what's happened to the OP but if you aren't going to read replies you shouldn't start threads. It's a pattern it happened when OP's don't get merits they leave the thread. If that isn't happening here he's got to reply.

Quote from: Captain Corporate on September 29, 2023, 05:43:19 PM

These type of questions do not really have answers all that easily. Doesn't mean that we are not going to end up going higher or not, we do not know how its going to be and we hope for the best, but usually that just means that we are going to end up with something unknown. Obviously, the most predicted outcome would be going higher, that is what everyone expects, and if people expect such a thing they may end up buying and make it go up, but just because that is the most expected outcome doesn't mean that its going to be the case, we should still end up making sure that something unexpected doesn't happen after halving. Buy, hold, but be careful too.

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These type of questions do not really have answers all that easily. Doesn't mean that we are not going to end up going higher or not, we do not know how its going to be and we hope for the best, but usually that just means that we are going to end up with something unknown. Obviously, the most predicted outcome would be going higher, that is what everyone expects, and if people expect such a thing they may end up buying and make it go up, but just because that is the most expected outcome doesn't mean that its going to be the case, we should still end up making sure that something unexpected doesn't happen after halving. Buy, hold, but be careful too.

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I am afraid this might lead to disappointment as we will only see a temporary pump as everyone has a misconception that price will skyrocket post halving or even before halving due to which there would be from demand in the market due to FOMO but we need to understand one thing that Bitcoin is not dependent on halving for its growth rather it just play a minor role.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on September 25, 2023, 02:35:23 PM

Halving events have frequently been associated with increase in price of bitcoin with significant upward momentum both before and after halving.

It is true. People always associate the bullish season with Bitcoin halving. That's because there is a significant change in Bitcoin price after the halving period. It already happens many times, it was not only happening in 2021. So, we can understand if people believe that Bitcoin halving will impact significantly to the Bitcoin price. And the side impact, there is also altcoins season where the prices of most altcoins to skyrocket.

Quote from: Tellek Garing on September 25, 2023, 02:35:23 PM

Bitcoin halving often generate increased market attention and hype. Expectation of lower supply and likely price increase may fuel positive feelings amongst investors and traders.

It always makes a big hype, it actually supports the increase of crypto coin prices. Besides the lower supply, the hype during the bullish season trigger the high demand on the market. It is because people become more optimistic to buy-sell crypto coins during the bullish season. Most people believe that the price of crypto coins will tend to increase constantly. So, both the hype and lower supply are triggering the price movement during the bullish season.

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Some times ppl ask questions they aren't bothered about. This thread's reached 63 replies so the OP doesn't need it any more. OP's been given enough advice inside replies for his info. Isn't it odd he's been online today he didn't come back for a post.

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Following the history of Bitcoin, the Bitcoin halving season is usually a period where the Bitcoin price sees an uptrend, and like you said, investors are usually filled with great enthusiasm while expecting a heavy spike in the Bitcoin price, so they could make a significant profit on their investment. It cannot be determined or decided what price Bitcoin would be before or after the halving period, but since the halving period brings about a bull market, it's possible that the price of Bitcoin would still be bullish after the halving. That's to say that the price of Bitcoin might be more than what it is today after the next halving has completed.

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The word halving is spreaded everywhere but the occurrence of it is not swear to the fact because as crypto is volatile and unrevealed so same is the reality of its each event. People are accepting bitcoin due to halving and because of this acceptance halving can occur because we know that as more people are buying bitcoin so increase will be cause by this.

This increase will be for minimum time according to spectators because more people will find the suitable time to sell their bitcoin which will be starting point of price lessening. Everyone is presenting their speculation which is not based on actual consciousness so be patience as rest of the time for halving is not more now.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on September 28, 2023, 09:28:24 AM

Yes.

There are so many stupid people, the way how Elon Musk is buying Bitcoin news make Bitcoin price increase, Elon Musk is selling Bitcoin news make Bitcoin price decrease, China is ban Bitcoin make Bitcoin price decrease, or huge amount of Bitcoin moved impact the price.

Since people already aware Bitcoin price will increase after halving, so it will repeat.

And people who don't care about this condition will continue their preparations by buying more bitcoin than before, especially if they are people who have a lot of money.
They believe the price of bitcoin will increase again after the halving occurs or a few months after and they made preparations several months ago to have a lot of bitcoin before the halving occurs.
Thus, if the price really goes up after the halving occurs, they can start selling at a high price and make a profit.
And we who are also investors, must be able to use this moment to buy bitcoin like them so that we don't miss out on getting a profit from our investment.

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Yes.

There are so many stupid people, the way how Elon Musk is buying Bitcoin news make Bitcoin price increase, Elon Musk is selling Bitcoin news make Bitcoin price decrease, China is ban Bitcoin make Bitcoin price decrease, or huge amount of Bitcoin moved impact the price.

Since people already aware Bitcoin price will increase after halving, so it will repeat.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on September 28, 2023, 02:02:27 AM

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I think the price will increase after the halving. It sort of has to. If it doesn’t then billions of dollars in Bitcoin mining investments will become worthless and it could even cause a selling feedback loop that destroys Bitcoin. On the plus side, there is still plenty of money to prop up Bitcoin and keep investments profitable, as I believe wie will see.

Does this mean that the ATH (All-Time High) that occurs after each halving is intended to allow miners to sell their coins at a reasonable price? Does this imply it's a market manipulation specifically for miners to keep running nodes, rather than purely due to high demand and supply?

Looking at previous cycles, when ATH is reached, volatility becomes exceptionally high, making the price unstable.

In theory, not only bitcoin but all other assets, their value is determined by supply and demand. But as a financial market, do you think everything will be determined entirely by supply and demand? Manipulation is inevitable. Even a market worth 10 trillion USD like gold, or with a capitalization of up to 80 trillion USD like stocks can still be manipulated, a small market like cryptocurrency with just over 1 trillion USD cannot be manipulated? Not only are miners manipulating the market, there are also many factions trying to manipulate it for their own profit.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on September 27, 2023, 08:49:14 PM

but 2018 is actually altcoin season mate? because the halving happens early 2017 and the effect really happens then , so in 2018 what we have are already done and yes there is a wrong expectation in 2018.

So what about 2021 mate? Is this year not included in the altcoin season? Because as far as I know, halving will also happen again before 2021, so the effect is much bigger than what you saw in 2018. And if you look at 2018 as a whole, I'm sure you also saw how the price decline of altcoins and Bitcoin occurred in 2018 and in my opinion it was also the worst price decline apart from what happened last year in all altcoins along with Bitcoin.

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Based on the history of Bitcoin halving the answer is Yes!

And unlike what everyone expects of halving to rise the second it's done...unfortunately the price increments do not have an immediate effect on the markets as history shows that it might take a year or two to see a significant jump in price.

Quote from: xLays on September 28, 2023, 04:15:23 AM

It's like if we apply the law of supply and demand, which means if the halving happens the Bitcoin price will increase.

Great theory...

The halving is more of an artificial shortage in supply, and the rules of supply and demand say if supply is inefficient then price goes up and this is what's going to happen here.

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This topic has been discussed many times here on Bitcointalk but since it is near to happen, I think it's okay to. Based on https://academy.binance.com/en/halving (Bitcoin Halving Countdown: only 197 days left and counting).

For me, I agree with those saying that no one knows what will happen after the Bitcoin halving but the idea of what will happen to the price is there. It's like if we apply the law of supply and demand, which means if the halving happens the Bitcoin price will increase. Correct me if I'm wrong but the halving will lower the reward for every block mined, which means the supply at the moment will also be lowered.

I've been in Bitcoin since 2015 and have experienced two Bitcoin halvings. My observation was that when it was neari to happen the price decreased possibly due to FOMO, but after the halving the price surged.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on September 28, 2023, 02:02:27 AM

Does this mean that the ATH (All-Time High) that occurs after each halving is intended to allow miners to sell their coins at a reasonable price? Does this imply it's a market manipulation specifically for miners to keep running nodes, rather than purely due to high demand and supply?

Looking at previous cycles, when ATH is reached, volatility becomes exceptionally high, making the price unstable.

Not directly aimed at miners selling Bitcoin at a fair price.
The price of Bitcoin is influenced by a variety of factors and each miner's decision to sell their coins also depends on the cost and risk of mining.

People generally believe that after the Halving occurs the price of Bitcoin will continue to rise and reach ATH, causing high volatility and instability.

It is important to remember that Bitcoin price is also affected by various factors, such as market demand, institutional adoption, investor sentiment, global events, and other factors that can affect financial markets in general.
The ATH that occurs after the halving cannot be guaranteed, and the price of Bitcoin remains influenced by complex and often unpredictable market forces.

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