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April 07, 2018, 12:38:43 AM
#70
Maybe for some people, they could afford to let go of their life principles on the premise of earning in the process. This is not new, however, as there were many times in the past that people would sell their principles just so they could earn something bigger, as they think, in return. Hence, I can say that it would depend on the individual. The latter holds the cards as to whether they would take into consideration ethics when gambling or trading per se. Because as odd as it may sound, people that greatly values ethics would not even think of 'gambling' if we meant gambling in the local sense of the word. Because generally, gambling is frowned upon by most religions and conservatives.
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April 06, 2018, 01:01:28 PM
#69
I really don't think ethics counts in winning, or gambling, this is a competitive environment, so any unfair advantage you can get to win should be taken.

So long as you are playing by the rules, it shouldn't matter how you win, whether by using sneaky tactics, loopholes or tricks, this is gambling. You need every advantage you can get since you're playing against stacked odds.

That being said, when playing with friends, you should be ethical, as it's not right to screw people over.
I know a lot of people are going to be saying this. Personally, gambling is a game and every player should know better to keep their cards out of the opponent's eye but in the real sense, it totally depends on each individual and how they perceive cheating in general. While some may find it amusing and as a bit of luck opened for them, some will count it as a very bad thing to consider doing. This is totally about the person in question being ethical in their response to things generally.
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April 06, 2018, 05:58:04 AM
#68
It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.
I have always believed ethics count in everything, and as tempting as it would be, I would rather just look away or tell him to please cover his cards well.

Yeah, it sounds ridiculous and it takes a lot of principle and discipline to be able to do that, but it can be done. However, it totally depends on how some people see it, some may think it is part of the game, but the last time I checked, peeping into someone's card is cheating and cheating is unethical.
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April 06, 2018, 05:02:43 AM
#67
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

Well I would say I have never cheated on gambling as well, but it kind on depends on how far your ethics go. For instance I played soccer when I was younger. Not a very high level, just regional and school level, but they were official competitions, and there was money and prizes involved, etc. So it wasn't just a game with some friends.

Like I said I never cheated in a grand scale, like arranged matches etc, but for instance let's say you make a foul and the referee does not see it. Even though you know you made the foul, isn't it unethical or considering cheating not saying anything? It's kind of a gray area, because it's not your decision to make, but you know you are wrong, and you are not even trying to do anything to change it, so maybe that's cheating as well.
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April 05, 2018, 12:42:39 PM
#66
sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money Grin
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.
I agree. There are some times that I have done some things just to want to play smart or you know that idea of winning is going to make you somehow feel special. In the general world, like you said, when it may end up affecting the opponent badly, it is highly unethical and a screwed up behavior. I would not lie though, I have tried to look for ways to beat online casinos before but all ended up inconsequential. However, in the real world, I have done this for few times.

Beating a house had become possible when observing some similar patterns. I spent long hours for analysis and also big money to frequent those gambling houses. I am not sure it all was being covered by ethics of general world or gambling world. Honestly I never mid them. I made some profits and I spent them again for gambling and got enough entertainments and satisfaction.

I must say when we are not harming anyone then all our activities must be covered under some ethics for sure. Even though, we need to be careful for following few basics of being a human then everything will be fine as per my experience.
I do follow all human morals while gambling. Even my first priority is making money still I never hurt nor cheat anyone. When we are afraid of God then we will never make any such mistakes. Gambling can be used for anything like for money making or for entertainment but only when we gamble by following ethics then only we can lead a good life without any feeling of guilty.
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April 05, 2018, 05:25:39 AM
#65
It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
People always cheat and you can’t even stop them. Either in the case you are a boss and your employee have cheated on you or if you are the employee and your boss have cheated on you. Reasons is no one agrees to accept that he has done anything wrong. Until and unless there are some evidences or some physical bodies that can be shown to prove your cheat. Still things are always confused.
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April 05, 2018, 03:21:52 AM
#64
It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
Personally I will not do anything like that but I will simply leave off that place for sure. Because I just want not to create any problem for myself and for the on-going environment of others rather than finding a solution for cheats. It may sound selfish but that is the reality actually I am believing in to. It may against the general ethics of human being still I do follow this for my peaceful life.
I will not blame for your way of thinking and doing when you are finding someone cheats. I have seen many people are like you that is the reason some misbehaving people are enjoying their action so far. You need to go legally so that you will not lose your peace at the same time you can find chances to get punishment for those people. Different people will be having different opinion moreover I cannot force anything to you.
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April 05, 2018, 02:53:08 AM
#63
It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
Personally I will not do anything like that but I will simply leave off that place for sure. Because I just want not to create any problem for myself and for the on-going environment of others rather than finding a solution for cheats. It may sound selfish but that is the reality actually I am believing in to. It may against the general ethics of human being still I do follow this for my peaceful life.
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April 05, 2018, 12:34:06 AM
#62
It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
legendary
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April 04, 2018, 11:17:28 PM
#61
sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money Grin
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.
I agree. There are some times that I have done some things just to want to play smart or you know that idea of winning is going to make you somehow feel special. In the general world, like you said, when it may end up affecting the opponent badly, it is highly unethical and a screwed up behavior. I would not lie though, I have tried to look for ways to beat online casinos before but all ended up inconsequential. However, in the real world, I have done this for few times.

Beating a house had become possible when observing some similar patterns. I spent long hours for analysis and also big money to frequent those gambling houses. I am not sure it all was being covered by ethics of general world or gambling world. Honestly I never mid them. I made some profits and I spent them again for gambling and got enough entertainments and satisfaction.

I must say when we are not harming anyone then all our activities must be covered under some ethics for sure. Even though, we need to be careful for following few basics of being a human then everything will be fine as per my experience.
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April 04, 2018, 09:40:29 AM
#60
I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
Well i never actually tried to cheat in gambling because i never thought it is possible to cheat, i mean i know for a fact that in real life casinos you can somehow cheat, like counting in card games, but in online gambling is that even possible, anyway, cheating is always bad whether you are a gambler or not ,some people are ok with it, others are not, but wining with cheating does not have the same feeling when you win with your hard work.
I think you're confusing something card counting in blackjack is not cheating, it is just a strategy nothing else, the reason why casinos banned that practice is because it gives the player advantage over the casino, so you can get an idea of how powerful that strategy really is, however things like marking the cards or looking at the cards of other players that is cheating.
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April 04, 2018, 03:01:58 AM
#59
I really don't think ethics counts in winning, or gambling, this is a competitive environment, so any unfair advantage you can get to win should be taken.

So long as you are playing by the rules, it shouldn't matter how you win, whether by using sneaky tactics, loopholes or tricks, this is gambling. You need every advantage you can get since you're playing against stacked odds.

That being said, when playing with friends, you should be ethical, as it's not right to screw people over.
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April 04, 2018, 12:16:28 AM
#58
It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.
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April 03, 2018, 04:05:38 PM
#57
even in gambling, there are rules and we still need to be ethical
I don’t believe in any kind of ethics when you are already doing an unethical thing. How can you save yourself from sin when you are living in sins? If someone is involved in gambling, firstly he is doing an unethical act and if we insist him to be ethical while playing, does it make any sense? I am sure not. Gambling isn’t good for your health and wealth so try to become unhabituated of this.
We are all sinners and doing unethical things is sometimes cant really be avoided but it shouldn't really be tolerated by someone.We do know it isn't right to make advantage to others but as you said if someone is already having the habit on being unethical then advising him would be pointless.

I don't think that it would really be a good thing to do something unethical because that's who you are and that would be what you do especially if others see you doing that kind of things. It's definitely needed to be ethical, but probably some people go over that line for something that is not worth too much to gamble. It's only yourself that would be responsible for it and to blame.
Once people do have those kind of impressions towards you then it would really remain forever.In my side I don't like for people to see me that way.
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April 03, 2018, 02:33:27 AM
#56
I don't think that it would really be a good thing to do something unethical because that's who you are and that would be what you do especially if others see you doing that kind of things. It's definitely needed to be ethical, but probably some people go over that line for something that is not worth too much to gamble. It's only yourself that would be responsible for it and to blame.
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April 03, 2018, 01:58:05 AM
#55
even in gambling, there are rules and we still need to be ethical
I don’t believe in any kind of ethics when you are already doing an unethical thing. How can you save yourself from sin when you are living in sins? If someone is involved in gambling, firstly he is doing an unethical act and if we insist him to be ethical while playing, does it make any sense? I am sure not. Gambling isn’t good for your health and wealth so try to become unhabituated of this.
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April 02, 2018, 03:30:31 PM
#54
Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

Any form of cheating is still cheating regardless of its nature. Once you performed an act that has an advantage over the other illegally then it is considered as cheating. In adherence to gambling, even though the nature of the act is based on odds, cheating would result to an individual's persona non-grata on the said casino or may be even held criminally liable.

I'm so proud to be part of this community who has decided to never cheat in gambling while I can't quote each and every post I liked, I'm really happy that each and everyone was ready to loose than cheat. They may call us by whatever names they want, tell us we're messing our lives, but they can't call us cheaters. Though occasionally you see people come here and complain they were cheated or sell fake scripts these are the few rotten apples that shall be chucked out of the system as I feel we'll have our ethics guard up.

Generally, people around the forum have respect and morals over their works and acts. People who mainly cheat are usually the ones who are suffering from financial needs or problems. Most individuals gamble for the purpose of entertainment; cheating would totally destroy the purpose of having fun. Nevertheless, ethics must be properly followed like what is mandated on the laws and rules.
Having ethics on gambling is good but consider this thing to be applied on all sorts of our daily living and would really give a peace of mind since we are talking about gambling then I would also choose on losing than on tending to cheat and same as you said once you act or do have motive to cheat then its already considered illegal once being caught then suffer the consequences but if you are a greedy man or do really seek for money then you wont really matter about ethics and do things on all sorts as long you can make money which isn't really good.
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April 02, 2018, 01:24:47 PM
#53
I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
Well i never actually tried to cheat in gambling because i never thought it is possible to cheat, i mean i know for a fact that in real life casinos you can somehow cheat, like counting in card games, but in online gambling is that even possible, anyway, cheating is always bad whether you are a gambler or not ,some people are ok with it, others are not, but wining with cheating does not have the same feeling when you win with your hard work.
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April 02, 2018, 04:59:21 AM
#52
Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

Any form of cheating is still cheating regardless of its nature. Once you performed an act that has an advantage over the other illegally then it is considered as cheating. In adherence to gambling, even though the nature of the act is based on odds, cheating would result to an individual's persona non-grata on the said casino or may be even held criminally liable.

I'm so proud to be part of this community who has decided to never cheat in gambling while I can't quote each and every post I liked, I'm really happy that each and everyone was ready to loose than cheat. They may call us by whatever names they want, tell us we're messing our lives, but they can't call us cheaters. Though occasionally you see people come here and complain they were cheated or sell fake scripts these are the few rotten apples that shall be chucked out of the system as I feel we'll have our ethics guard up.

Generally, people around the forum have respect and morals over their works and acts. People who mainly cheat are usually the ones who are suffering from financial needs or problems. Most individuals gamble for the purpose of entertainment; cheating would totally destroy the purpose of having fun. Nevertheless, ethics must be properly followed like what is mandated on the laws and rules.
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April 02, 2018, 03:59:56 AM
#51
I'm so proud to be part of this community who has decided to never cheat in gambling while I can't quote each and every post I liked, I'm really happy that each and everyone was ready to loose than cheat. They may call us by whatever names they want, tell us we're messing our lives, but they can't call us cheaters. Though occasionally you see people come here and complain they were cheated or sell fake scripts these are the few rotten apples that shall be chucked out of the system as I feel we'll have our ethics guard up.
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