Topic: Does ethics count in winning/gambling. - page 3. (Read 595 times)
Ethics always matters i wouldn't make any move just for the sake of earning more money because this would show that how narrow minded i am and what all i could just for earning that little extra funds , what they did was really bad instead they could have practiced more and improve their performance as cheating is never a solution to problems
I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
Reading the news about the cricketers sends a message and that is if you must win, win according to the rules. They have just successfully ended their careers because of their greed. In societies where there are rules and high ethical values, you are allowed to break the rule, but when caught, the hammer will hit very hard which has happened to those individuals.
For us the gamblers, I think ethics should be about those making the platforms available. For someone like me who is only interested in soccer form of gambling, I don't know any ethics I have to comply with than to place my bet and wait. But for the gambling site that are quick to devise several means to rip me off should be the one sticking to ethical codes.
I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
No I wasn't actually, thanks for alerting though. Just read up on it. I'm not much of a sportsperson myself, though I played football/street football every day for many, many years (til I got old heh heh) and nothing got to me more than cheaters... divers, those unsportsmanlike fouls. I never learnt how to even roll on the ground if I fell, instinctively my mind was just on the ball and on the game. Match fixing is on another level, since that's greed and not a "winning at all cost" strategy.
I have hussled plenty though when gambling cards! My favourite is to play at the same table with an "assistant" who helps me look at my cards and "advises" and "accidentally giving me away". Always among friends, and always for the banter, but sometimes getting the desired result. I'm not sure that qualifies as cheating, especially when playing poker and they all know I do that.
There's always a code with gamblers. Murky as mud, blurry as hell. But there's definitely a code.
I don't think we can relate cheating in sports to cheating in gambling. In sports the player can be the one cheating or be bribed at to intentionally lose the game, but in gambling cheating is a harder thing to do as the casino or the site always have the edge. Cheating here sometimes involves a lot of people or lookouts for the cards or if it is a machine then you need some kind of program to hack into their system. Not to mention that cheating inside a casino is considered as a crime compared to cheating in a sport which will only result into fines and penalties, or a permanent ban as its worst penalty.
Good point, there's difference between the actual players who deal with game fixing to cheat and allow the game to lose from the system or some sortof dishonest activity inside the casino house, both is unethical but we can't deny the fact that most of the gamblers who really engaged with this activity
are really doing everything just to earn money, to the point that they will try every resources even try to cheat just to win.
Cheating is a cheating whether it is done in gambling or sports or in any other places. Punishments may be different because of the rules but the intention is same they want to win so they are cheating. Those players cheated the whole country because of their unethical behaviour.
I don't think we can relate cheating in sports to cheating in gambling. In sports the player can be the one cheating or be bribed at to intentionally lose the game, but in gambling cheating is a harder thing to do as the casino or the site always have the edge. Cheating here sometimes involves a lot of people or lookouts for the cards or if it is a machine then you need some kind of program to hack into their system. Not to mention that cheating inside a casino is considered as a crime compared to cheating in a sport which will only result into fines and penalties, or a permanent ban as its worst penalty.
Good point, there's difference between the actual players who deal with game fixing to cheat and allow the game to lose from the system or some sortof dishonest activity inside the casino house, both is unethical but we can't deny the fact that most of the gamblers who really engaged with this activity
are really doing everything just to earn money, to the point that they will try every resources even try to cheat just to win.
I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
Gambling is based on luck and luck only , speculations might be a bit helpful but it's up to the luck for at least 90% to decide whether if we loose or don't .
As for manipulated results , who knows ? Maybe luck will turn things around and maybe you got the opposite of what'll happen from your source ? There is no cheating when the possible outcome is not fully controllable .
I did once bet on a manipulated game but i didn't really place a lot of money on that bet since i didn't think such things existed , yet it happened (i'm still not sure it was really manipulated or it was luck ).
Gamblers certainly have no code ,but anyone gambling is doing it for a sole purpose which is getting profits . Some games/casinos are already cheating and manipulating the machines for their favor's , so why not make some dirty moves ourselves ?
And it won't even be eye for an eye compared to what the exorbitant amounts of money they are stealing out of gamblers's pockets ..
I think ethics is very important and needed in gambling, but most of the people dont care about the ethics when come to the money problem, people willing to do everything to get the money, for me winning with honest makes me proud, and if you asked me to gamble with cheating, I will refuse becauae I am afraid to get caught and embarrassed to be known as cheater
I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
To have a possibility to cheat in on-line gambling you have to be a top notch hacker in the first place and I'm not the one so I've never contemplated the idea. Hopefully you don't consider bluffing in poker to be cheating because that's what I do all the time.
Actually I'm glad that there come times when it doesn't matter whether you want to cheat or you don't, you just can't do that because of the architecture and algorithms of the game. Bitcoin is a good example of that.
This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?
This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
Winning is important but cheating your way to winning makes your winning less valuable. Not all gamblers are ethical though, ethics has more to do with someone personality, nothing else. I always try to keep my integrity and ethics in every activity, from competition to even gambling. This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.
I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.
There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
I have never cheated but it is very difficult to cheat if you play in big online or even land-based casinos. I remember doing it as home as @Pursuer says, when I was a kid and was no money involved, but for the sake of winning.
I can understand people up to a point if they try to cheat for huge sums of money. Money drive people crazy.
Sometimes in online gambling, I have always wished I could. Honestly, unless we want to lie to ourselves, these online gambling sites cheat with their acclaimed provably fair platform because I wonder I would ever end up having 23 streaks of losses on a normal day if the house edge did not just program it for me to lose. So in this case, for an online casino, it would be more like a revenge tactics. Nonetheless, it is not even possible.I can understand people up to a point if they try to cheat for huge sums of money. Money drive people crazy.
As much as I would have loved to say screw ethics, I would just be on the neutral side. Ethics is very good, do not get me wrong, and what Captain Smith did was highly unethical, but most times in gambling, with the way house edge have always dealt with us, I am sure almost everyone, most especially in online gambling, would have tried as much as possible to find out how they can cheat the house edge. I have been there, but at the end, they are always one step ahead anyway.
sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money 
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.
but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.
All things that have been attained thru cheating isnt really right at all. Even you do make money but deep inside your conscience will really put you in stress.I have already experience or have the chance to cheat but i didnt want to do such thing because i do really like to play on a fair way but we cant really remove for those people who are doing all cost just to make money without minding other players too and wouldnt know on the word ethics. I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.
but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.
I don't think we can relate cheating in sports to cheating in gambling. In sports the player can be the one cheating or be bribed at to intentionally lose the game, but in gambling cheating is a harder thing to do as the casino or the site always have the edge. Cheating here sometimes involves a lot of people or lookouts for the cards or if it is a machine then you need some kind of program to hack into their system. Not to mention that cheating inside a casino is considered as a crime compared to cheating in a sport which will only result into fines and penalties, or a permanent ban as its worst penalty.
in fact ethics is very important, even if in gambling or whatever to get the honor of each person it is for me very pleasant with good ethics can establish good relationship every gambling, cheat is not good tips but it stupid can not think with his own head no matter what's the risk, it's just looking for victory, even if it does not hurt others, I hope with good ethics can get a pure victory.
IMO the essence of winning is defeated when you cheat. Who are you truly fooling when you cheat? Aren't we just fooling ourselves. It may give you a sense of satisfaction because you may have thought that you have fooled all the other people by winning through the means of cheating but really you're only just cheating yourself. Sadly, many still cheat even in gambling. There are some rigs that can be put so that one may easily win the game.
You can cheat as long as you not get detect means that you have done it in good place with a good time.
It's very rare to see it happen , yes indeed ! because every match always make a better improvement for fair game
~ethics is everything !
It's very rare to see it happen , yes indeed ! because every match always make a better improvement for fair game
~ethics is everything !
Well since the question is highly subjective, the answer is expectedly varying.
As for me, I am always guided by my principles no matter where life takes me. Hence, gambling or not, the principles I have learned all throughout are always taken into consideration before I even embark onto something. So it is a YES. Yes, ethics count in winning/gambling because were it not ethical on your standpoint, you would not have gambled in the first place. You must have believed in it because you decided to pursue it, right?
As for me, I am always guided by my principles no matter where life takes me. Hence, gambling or not, the principles I have learned all throughout are always taken into consideration before I even embark onto something. So it is a YES. Yes, ethics count in winning/gambling because were it not ethical on your standpoint, you would not have gambled in the first place. You must have believed in it because you decided to pursue it, right?
I've never heard about the news about Captain Smith until now. I haven't cheated in gambling, only did it in video games. I agree with btcdevil we have provably fair in online gambling it's hard to rig the outcome of any gambling game just to win there are a couple of users who pulled it off (hufflepuff) but now it's unlikely to happen again and huge withdrawals are always processed manually so if someone wins big they'll always check the user's activity.
I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
There would always be a certain person that would cheat in gambling because money is involved. 
Don't ever cheat because if you do this thing, its a sign that money controls your life.
That's greed and it can really ruin your reputation, better to just play the game win or lose at least you are happy that's what gambling is.
I've never cheat and have no plan to do it, well you might got caught and be in prison for good so be careful.
That's greed and it can really ruin your reputation, better to just play the game win or lose at least you are happy that's what gambling is.
I've never cheat and have no plan to do it, well you might got caught and be in prison for good so be careful.
To me ethic remains important even we are in the world of gambling. By maintaining ethics, I hope others will treat me in the same way including casino owners. If I feel that I get unfair treatment, of course I will not go back to that place again. Even for example I am able to cheat the game, I will tell the bug to the site owner instead of exploited it for my own advantage.
The cricket game is totally a different scenario, which I totally believe is highly unethical. However, in gambling, forget ethics bro, even the casino owners, both online and offline cheat, so if you have the chance to get back at them and get away with it, good for you.
Moreover, not like one can easily achieve such aim anyway, looking at how these places or platforms are fashioned to always be in the favor of the house edge. Nevertheless, I do not see anything related to ethics in gambling; since you are being robbed most of the time and you gladly allow yourself to get robbed. So, if you have a chance to gain all that you have lost back and be smart about it, hmm... ethics can go perch for the mean time.
Jokes apart now! In general though, being ethical pays 100% of the time and if you cannot imbibe an ethical culture in little things, no matter how tempting cheating can be, then you can end up embarrassing yourself for an action that was not worth it.
Moreover, not like one can easily achieve such aim anyway, looking at how these places or platforms are fashioned to always be in the favor of the house edge. Nevertheless, I do not see anything related to ethics in gambling; since you are being robbed most of the time and you gladly allow yourself to get robbed
. So, if you have a chance to gain all that you have lost back and be smart about it, hmm... ethics can go perch for the mean time. Jokes apart now! In general though, being ethical pays 100% of the time and if you cannot imbibe an ethical culture in little things, no matter how tempting cheating can be, then you can end up embarrassing yourself for an action that was not worth it.
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