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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 26, 2018, 05:36:56 AM

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

No I wasn't actually, thanks for alerting though. Just read up on it. I'm not much of a sportsperson myself, though I played football/street football every day for many, many years (til I got old heh heh) and nothing got to me more than cheaters... divers, those unsportsmanlike fouls. I never learnt how to even roll on the ground if I fell, instinctively my mind was just on the ball and on the game. Match fixing is on another level, since that's greed and not a "winning at all cost" strategy.

I have hussled plenty though when gambling cards! My favourite is to play at the same table with an "assistant" who helps me look at my cards and "advises" and "accidentally giving me away". Always among friends, and always for the banter, but sometimes getting the desired result. I'm not sure that qualifies as cheating, especially when playing poker and they all know I do that.

There's always a code with gamblers. Murky as mud, blurry as hell. But there's definitely a code.

Being a footballer for years will never give you the same fun in any other activity of the world because football is life, not just a game. In front of this, gambling is a way too low but as you have got old, it is not that much easy to continue street football. Forme, gambling is just a useless game, it won’t give anything valuable. I also think that mostly gambler are seeking money because there is actually no fun is sitting at a chair and waiting for random outcome.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 26, 2018, 05:36:56 AM

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

There is not really a point to cheat when you gamble, because no matter what you do you will always get a bad outcome, if you win you will get more money that is true but you will always know that you won because you cheated, and if at some point someone discovers that you have been cheating you will get in a lot of trouble you could even end up in jail.

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Quote from: xandra on April 01, 2018, 12:50:14 PM

Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

Same here, I don't like cheaters at all. Playing fair games is my favorite thing. About cheaters, I think people who manipulate Live game results. I think sometimes in any place in the world, there are some players which they play football or some sport activities, they can manipulate the games and choose the right bet, so then, they can earn a huge amount of that, It's something shameful indeed.

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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.

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Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

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Quote from: iv4n on March 30, 2018, 08:32:25 AM

OP explained a situation in sport event, and it`s not ethical what that sportsman did. He sold his team, fans for some money.Ethic is everything we do, this sportsman decided to put money over dignity and that is not ethical. You can apply ethic in every action we make, we can gamble in fair way or to cheat, we can be good or bad people. If you lose you can handle loss with proper manners or you can start to curse and make threats, its not ethical. Basically ethical or unethical depends from person to person, some are some not, I think I`m fair in everything I do, when I win and when I lose in gambling and other aspects of life.

With how things happen this one is a good example of unethical way just to earned a quick money inside gambling, he did things like this
just to received his rewards, they been paid to play and do their obligations for their respected teams but he did the other way around to
earn for its personal benefit.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 30, 2018, 09:36:59 AM

Firstly everyone aim is to make money not win or lose so they will do anything to make money but most of the people won't do shady activities of it comes to games between nations but still some people so.

By the way what he did? is he fixed the match to win or lose?

Everyone mostly plays to make money and this is the reason they get addicted or play for so long that they keep losing money and thus casinos keep making money and due to which today we can see that they still exists because they are running in profits.

People who are in loss may do some wrong things to make up their losses.

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Quote from: eternalgloom on March 26, 2018, 07:33:09 AM

Ethics matter everywhere, you aren't ethical if you just pick and choose the circumstances where you decide to be ethical or not.
You are either practice good morals or you do not, there's no in-between, at least not according to me.

The same with gambling, for me it would not be okay to cheat, whether you're playing with friends or at a big casino.

Now I do see a gray area if you're just using skill to get an extra edge in the game.
Counting cards in blackjack is an example.

Apparently, using your skills to give yourself an advantage is not cheating, it is just part of the game. In as much as a lot of us even wish we could cheat in gambling, this is something that is not possible since there are monitoring spirits (that is what I call them anyway) everywhere looking for a scapegoat and in that case, I would rather just respect myself.

In the real life sense, it is appalling to cheat when you know in that case, you are hurting the person, I always just prefer life to take its cause.

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Firstly everyone aim is to make money not win or lose so they will do anything to make money but most of the people won't do shady activities of it comes to games between nations but still some people so.

By the way what he did? is he fixed the match to win or lose?

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OP explained a situation in sport event, and it`s not ethical what that sportsman did. He sold his team, fans for some money.Ethic is everything we do, this sportsman decided to put money over dignity and that is not ethical. You can apply ethic in every action we make, we can gamble in fair way or to cheat, we can be good or bad people. If you lose you can handle loss with proper manners or you can start to curse and make threats, its not ethical. Basically ethical or unethical depends from person to person, some are some not, I think I`m fair in everything I do, when I win and when I lose in gambling and other aspects of life.

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When it comes to sport its basically about win or lose, and these sports men and women will do anything to make this happen for financial benefits or pride but the sad part about sports is not everyone is doing an honest job and that's why punishments have put should should anyone break the rules, Thats why personal discipline and good sportsmanship is needed to uphold good sports ethics.

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I never cheat on any gambling games, but sometimes I used the only strategy and I think it's not cheating. I think even if I cheat, my chances to win the games is the same, I will only get lost the money. so whenever I play the games, cheat or not cheat, the result is the most time in the games, I only get lost. but I don't think that if we cheat the games, we can win the games. maybe it will work for one or two times but the next, I am sure that the owner will know.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 26, 2018, 05:36:56 AM

I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

Insider knowledge that the game is rigged is probably hard to acquire and you'll likely spend a lot of money to get it or make it happen, so probably it is just a business decision for some and ethically wrong for many. I would say that it would be hard for anyone to do this, there would be little chances that a lot of people will be in on the scheme. Though if I had the chance, I would avoid the game probably.

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I am not a sportsman, not by a long shot. I am a recreational gambler who bets for fun. Gambling is like a hobby to me with the added perk of winning some cash here and there. However, there are very competitive people out there, professional athletes and even amateurs and hobbyists, for whom winning is everything. Would you, for example, bet on a fixed match knowing you are going to defraud the sportsbook? Or your ethics and conscience wouldn't let you do it? Surely, free money could be a very strong factor for persuasion. Winning + winning money at that is a very strong combination.

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Quote from: Pursuer on March 26, 2018, 06:41:01 AM

sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money Grin

I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.

When it comes to gamblng cheating is not fun and it is not harmless as you say it is. It maybe fun for you but it is unfair for your opponents and i am sure if it happens to you you will not like it as well. Anything that we dont like done to us is not fun.

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I never think of cheating my way to win in gambling. I always believe that playing fair is a must for a player. This may not count as a winning when it comes to money, but the feeling of assurance that there will be no problem if the time comes we have to withdraw a huge amount of money if we hit a huge price. Unlike, if we cheat and win, there will be lots of what if and we troubled ourselves instead of enjoying the winnings.

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As of my understanding, ethics applied in gambling is how you play by the rules with a positive attitude or manner and I think it is admirable that someone plays with ethics. Cheating is not much of an issue in gambling and I think it adds up the fun and makes you feel the game and I do not see anything wrong about cheating some time. I think let us just view ethics as being a sport if someone or you happen to lose in a game, you still play by the rules and never start a fight when losing.

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Quote from: Aikidoka on March 29, 2018, 04:51:46 AM

In my opinion, cheating is fun because you manage to outsmart your opponent without him realizing. However, sometimes, it is sad to cheat against an opponent who is trying his best to win and having fun on the game. I really find it bad to cheat and perhaps that is related to my ethical background. I cheat when it depends on the opponent. If he is a good guy, I will not. If he is malicious, I will try to outsmart him.

We should be fair in everything even in gambling, ethics will reflect our identity, tho there are really bastards that don't even know what their doing so dont try to follow them at least have the guts to be smart enough to do what is right.

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For money OP i think they can play with cheat like they scam other but that's not good because you lie in yourself another thing we can win with no cheat why you going to do that to other people of course the reason is for money,If you play basketball or if you are here in crypto better to have referee in basketball and do escrow a transaction here in crypto so there's a lot of ways to avoid cheat this is example

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In my opinion, cheating is fun because you manage to outsmart your opponent without him realizing. However, sometimes, it is sad to cheat against an opponent who is trying his best to win and having fun on the game. I really find it bad to cheat and perhaps that is related to my ethical background. I cheat when it depends on the opponent. If he is a good guy, I will not. If he is malicious, I will try to outsmart him.

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