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Quote from: tsaroz on April 28, 2019, 08:02:57 PM

There are different types of gamble.
When it comes to purely luck based gamble, there are no use of hard work. Yeah there are strategies but that again are just luck and probability.
But when it comes to analysis based gamble like say sports betting, a hard work doing research and analysis would yield you better result with larger probability of your success.

I agree with you, when we talk about games based on luck, I think strategies ruin everything because luck is against strategy, luck against luck to my mind and not strategies and etc. Btw sports betting is combination of luck and analysis, there were some games lost and won by specific team which people couldn't imagine. A lot of famous clubs have lost match which was almost seemed to be 100% won.
On another hand hard work counts when you play games like chess, absolutely strategy based one. Poker is also combination of luck and strategy, sometimes you blef and win with bad cards but sometimes different thing happens.

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It is very unlikely you can improve your skills by constantly playing probability based gambling. The only thing that can be improved is your chances of winning probability based ones if your number of bet is increased

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Quote from: MFahad on April 28, 2019, 10:36:18 PM

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Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

In too many definition has one definition is, We think that if we do work hard then we will get success, So in this sense, he is asking us about gambling hard work.
But in my thinking, gambling don't need hard working if we have Luck, it is not trading where we learn from our experience.
For instance, in dice here do we think we need hard working and in sports betting, i realize only analysis is enough to win in sport betting.

Maybe what people means about hard work when they think they can make strategy or pattern to beat dice site. But this is only personal opinion, because in my country there are a lot of people show off their bet strategy when play 99 dice. Grin

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Quote from: boyptc on April 01, 2019, 01:57:39 AM

Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

In too many definition has one definition is, We think that if we do work hard then we will get success, So in this sense, he is asking us about gambling hard work.
But in my thinking, gambling don't need hard working if we have Luck, it is not trading where we learn from our experience.
For instance, in dice here do we think we need hard working and in sports betting, i realize only analysis is enough to win in sport betting.

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Quote from: imadmirer on July 01, 2018, 10:15:05 PM

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

There two kinds of gambling, gambling that is associated with luck, like casino, dice poker, this involves luck and skill, gambling that analysis and skills play a big factor and these are basketball, cricket and boxing, if all go up to the kind of gambling you are doing, but playing for years can make you see the risk involve and how you can manage your losses.

Precisely, because we are taken off through our experience to act and deliberate wisely. With our sensible strategy and constant skills to play the game, the fortune will lead our wealth and succeed. It may seems too risky to play gamble, just take it as a releasing stress exercise from hardwork and the consideration to our health from evading anxiety.

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Quote from: boyptc on April 01, 2019, 01:57:39 AM

Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

Will it then change your chance to win ? if the game is base on skills like poker, maybe analyzing the nature of the player is also
important and giving added value to you can win, but for other games I don't think hardwork will work..

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Quote from: imadmirer on July 01, 2018, 10:15:05 PM

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

There two kinds of gambling, gambling that is associated with luck, like casino, dice poker, this involves luck and skill, gambling that analysis and skills play a big factor and these are basketball, cricket and boxing, if all go up to the kind of gambling you are doing, but playing for years can make you see the risk involve and how you can manage your losses.

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There are different types of gamble.
When it comes to purely luck based gamble, there are no use of hard work. Yeah there are strategies but that again are just luck and probability.
But when it comes to analysis based gamble like say sports betting, a hard work doing research and analysis would yield you better result with larger probability of your success.

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In my own opinion no need to give more time how to get skill as gambler we know gambling is a luck of game skills is important but depends how how to it wisely.

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You should as minimum understand the rules in the game you want to gamble on. Some rules you can learn in a few minutes. Other games will take months or even years to master.
Personally, I can use hours each week looking through sports statistics to find team worth betting money on, that can be hard work. But when I'm playing roulette I just gamble on red or black. So some games need a lot of homework before you place a bet, others don't.

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Quote from: imadmirer on July 01, 2018, 10:15:05 PM

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

we don't need to put the hard work in gambling feet because this is all about luck based system so putting the hard work is like giving your satisfaction only for us not for the investment.

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Quote from: meanwords on April 01, 2019, 06:12:52 AM

Well, hard work in gambling (depending on the game) really does pay off.

I agree, you can do hard work in games where you can use your skills to win, a skilled based type of game.

Quote from: meanwords on April 01, 2019, 06:12:52 AM

There are certain games that you need to master in order to earn. Competitive games like pokers and other card games need skills and hard work to be able to decide and win the game. Not to mention there are tournaments who are pro at this.

Gamblers with skills can make a living in gambling, and that's the best job I like to experience, but I'm just not good on it.
On the other hand, in games like roulette, dice, and any kind of games that are won based on luck is not something we have to spend time with, as no strategy would world over time.

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In my own opinion, everything that you have been working hard always counts as long it gives you good benefits for you to earn a good income, but sometimes doing some hard work in playing gambling is a risk because you cannot say that you will always gonna win gambling. You can also get addicted from playing gambling for a long time, so it will be better if you will limit your winnings even it is in a small amount for you not to get greedy or addicted in gambling. Right now, i am also playing in my favorite crypto casino because they offer great bonuses and a lot of casino games like poker, roulette, blackjack and slots which you will actually enjoy it. Lastly, you can also use your hard work in playing crypto casino because you can win good money from it too.

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Well, hard work in gambling (depending on the game) really does pay off. There are certain games that you need to master in order to earn. Competitive games like pokers and other card games need skills and hard work to be able to decide and win the game. Not to mention there are tournaments who are pro at this.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 01, 2019, 04:23:36 AM

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Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

Hard work will pay off if you are also smart, hard work alone will not give you success in gambling.
We are spending time and effort on analyzing games but it has to be games that has no house edge, otherwise there's no success that we will achieve.

Smart gambling/betting.

As I have said, there's too many definition for gambling and it all depends on how you look at it.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 01, 2019, 04:23:36 AM

Quote from: boyptc on April 01, 2019, 01:57:39 AM

Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

Hard work will pay off if you are also smart, hard work alone will not give you success in gambling.
We are spending time and effort on analyzing games but it has to be games that has no house edge, otherwise there's no success that we will achieve.

I agree with you. In the sports betting, we need to analyze the player so we know how much percentage we can win. But in other gambling game base on the luck, then I think we don't have to make analysis and what we need only luck. But I don't think that hard work will give success in gambling games especially for the games based on luck.

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Quote from: mornabo on April 01, 2019, 04:47:50 AM

Quote from: Natalim on April 01, 2019, 04:23:36 AM

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Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

Hard work will pay off if you are also smart, hard work alone will not give you success in gambling.
We are spending time and effort on analyzing games but it has to be games that has no house edge, otherwise there's no success that we will achieve.

Its funny, what analysis do you do when gambling? in my opinion most of the game doesn't need analysis, all you need is great luck. what you analyze will not give any effect to change the possibility of winning or losing. gambling is not a job that requires an effort to profit

Analysis is only required when you are playing Poker/Card games and sports betting yet these things do really need it rather than on making bets blindly.You would really have the edge or possible increase of winning rate if you are fully aware on the team/player that you do bet on against into its opponent unlike on pure luck based games which doesn't really need at all that's why hard work wont really count on this one.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 01, 2019, 04:23:36 AM

Quote from: boyptc on April 01, 2019, 01:57:39 AM

Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

Hard work will pay off if you are also smart, hard work alone will not give you success in gambling.
We are spending time and effort on analyzing games but it has to be games that has no house edge, otherwise there's no success that we will achieve.

Its funny, what analysis do you do when gambling? in my opinion most of the game doesn't need analysis, all you need is great luck. what you analyze will not give any effect to change the possibility of winning or losing. gambling is not a job that requires an effort to profit

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Quote from: boyptc on April 01, 2019, 01:57:39 AM

Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

Hard work will pay off if you are also smart, hard work alone will not give you success in gambling.
We are spending time and effort on analyzing games but it has to be games that has no house edge, otherwise there's no success that we will achieve.

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Quote from: btcnijuan on March 31, 2019, 06:33:59 PM

Ofcourse but less than the luck that you need. When gambling in sports like tennis, you need to analyze and study both players and choose who will likely to win base on your analyze and with your luck

Working hard to analyze the two players might be worth it and can be seen after the match.

There's too many definition and meaning for the 'hard work' in gambling.

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