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Quote from: proTECH77 on July 24, 2019, 10:56:30 AM

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Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

First and foremost applying experience and hardwork in poker or learning poker has an advantage towards your winning even though its won't be 100% sure or guaranteed. But the facts still remains that, hardwork pays more in poker than in any other gambling casinos online.

On movies I saw people with experience on playing pokers keep winning the gems but on the reality it differs.

When we are experienced we might look more confident it will create paninc on the opposition so it will be helpful but what will happen when two experienced poker player faces?

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Quote from: Natalim on July 23, 2019, 06:45:13 PM

If you do hard work in gambling, you don't just rely on luck but on your skills.

Luck is not needed if you are smart and if you are consistent in winning, but of course this refers to games which are won based on skills.

Gambling is based on luck. Skills and intelligence are not that important I think. Unless you are talking about card games where you play head to head versus other players. But generally skills and intelligence will not help you in dice, roulette and many other games.

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Experience and expertise would be a better fit in the topic rather than hard work. And yes to some extent and in specific games which are not entirely to the luck of the draw or throw of the dice experience does give one an edge.

There is no guarantee however, but I'd go with the guess of someone who follows up football on a match over that if someone else who doesn't.

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Quote from: proTECH77 on July 24, 2019, 10:56:30 AM

First and foremost applying experience and hardwork in poker or learning poker has an advantage towards your winning even though its won't be 100% sure or guaranteed. But the facts still remains that, hardwork pays more in poker than in any other gambling casinos online.

Putting in effort and trying to understand how and when to play and also when you're stop is as important as the factor of luck, hard work hence can be said to be a factor in increasing winning chances, even though in my opinion luck plays a higher part than it, but if a gambler decides not to increase their knowledge or experience, then the odds will always be against such person.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2019, 04:58:31 PM

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

First and foremost applying experience and hardwork in poker or learning poker has an advantage towards your winning even though its won't be 100% sure or guaranteed. But the facts still remains that, hardwork pays more in poker than in any other gambling casinos online.

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Hm, as a gamer myself, I got into gaming just out of curiosity. I have read a lot of articles on the internet about roulette, poker, video poker, slots and also I read forums where people wrote their strategies and stories .. But I never played before. I understood a very important thing. You need to know when to stop, if you don't know when to stop, you're gonna get yourself into a lot of trouble. I literally "taught myself out of others problems". I read heartbreaking stories about people losing their families and houses because they couldn't stop playing, I told myself, that if I ever try to play, I will know when to stop, I need to set my limits. So when I decided that I want to try to play,I was ready - I knew how the game is played, what are the odds of winning, I knew which game I should play to win big money, where to place the bet and how much I should place. And yes, you're right. It is better to educate yourself in these kinds of things because you will have an advantage with you by your side. And mostly, you will know when to stop and also you will know that the house edge does exist and it's real.

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Be successful in gambling by working hard, work make sense. Without basic knowledge you have nothing to do in gambling field as well you have to try many times your luck. You need to figure out the things for getting success. Maybe there you will have even more chances.

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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

Its not because the player is a gambling experts, He can always win at every games, Of course they can still face loss because nobody
is perfect, not all the time luck will always there for every gambler of course not.

Agree, even professional gamblers can’t win all the time, I think they are considered experts because they can remain calm and positive at gambling and that they can come up with better strategies compared to those who are too emotional in gambling.

you are right it is very important to work hard because without hard work no one ever got reward. So I consider this hard work one of the important rule to get success in gambling. We will have to struggle and gain knowledge about a game in case of gambling only luck is not good to rely on but hard work and luck combines together to make a gambler win.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 23, 2019, 07:35:42 PM

Hardwork in building a business or selling goods and services is more useful and promising than gambling. because what I believe is gambling is how to get money quickly but in an uncertain way. all depends on the personal opinion of each. for myself i still thinking gambling is only for fun not for being serious and being a job. and also for spend some money to have fun. workhard & playhard.

On the right aspect that is true mate because there is no more valuable to spend our time and knowledge and skills for business or other area to profit but not in gambling (not unless you will create a gambling site that’s a different idea lol)

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on July 23, 2019, 07:41:09 PM

Gambling covers a wide range of games so to me it depends on the kind of game you are playing. Sometimes where luck rules mostly like dice games, even a "hard worker" can lose massively.
Maybe another very important aspect of gambling is discipline.

Wasn’t sometimes mate but always in which luck is what we need to win in gambling..but ofcourse in some cases the hard work brings profit like the man Stefan Mandel who got to win 14x in lottery but in the end al comes to nothing

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on July 23, 2019, 07:41:09 PM

Gambling covers a wide range of games so to me it depends on the kind of game you are playing. Sometimes where luck rules mostly like dice games, even a "hard worker" can lose massively.
Maybe another very important aspect of gambling is discipline.

This is how important to know what we actually been doing, and very often to say that hard work won't really give a big chance to win in gambling, instead of having a luck inside is an important tool. We are not players just like in basketball that really be needing hard works but we are playing in casinos which is in a different approach from doing it hard than of playing as a player.

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Gambling covers a wide range of games so to me it depends on the kind of game you are playing. Sometimes where luck rules mostly like dice games, even a "hard worker" can lose massively.
Maybe another very important aspect of gambling is discipline.

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Hardwork in building a business or selling goods and services is more useful and promising than gambling. because what I believe is gambling is how to get money quickly but in an uncertain way. all depends on the personal opinion of each. for myself i still thinking gambling is only for fun not for being serious and being a job. and also for spend some money to have fun. workhard & playhard.

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Quote from: AliMan on July 23, 2019, 06:42:09 PM

Even though how much effort you've given to a gambling game, and the luck isn't for you; everything will not count.

If you do hard work in gambling, you don't just rely on luck but on your skills.

Luck is not needed if you are smart and if you are consistent in winning, but of course this refers to games which are won based on skills.

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Hardwork pertains to determination which will motivate a person to accomplish the work and get paid after it was done. For gambling, the idea about harwork was a desire to make certain situations successful by chances of betting. The expectations can be very thrill, but it doesn't have the assurance thar it could give us or benefit us through winning 100% sure. Even though how much effort you've given to a gambling game, and the luck isn't for you; everything will not count. You'll still lose despite of the hardworks you've done.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 23, 2019, 04:58:31 PM

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

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Quote from: Becky666 on July 23, 2019, 03:51:32 PM

Hard work can only be possible if we are not talking about the dice gambling platform's, personally, I can't see any hard work working out some modalities here about winning rather to increase their addicted level higher but when its involves poker its a reality that hardwork pays off for any gambler who can put in enough strength into practice in poker games.

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

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Hard work can only be possible if we are not talking about the dice gambling platform's, personally, I can't see any hard work working out some modalities here about winning rather to increase their addicted level higher but when its involves poker its a reality that hardwork pays off for any gambler who can put in enough strength into practice in poker games.

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Quote from: davis196 on July 21, 2019, 01:30:13 PM

When it comes to poker,hard work and practice can pay out in the long term.
However,there's always a right way and a wrong way to practice.The gambling addicts are going the wrong way,so they never learn from their mistakes and never gain any experience and knowledge.I'm not a poker expert or trainer,so I can't write about the proper way of training poker.
There's no hard work in the 100% luck based gambling games. Grin

Gambling addicts will take the wrong path, then who will take the right path? because I think everyone who gambles is a gambling addict. If they are not gambling addicts, they are beginners and it is not possible for beginners to have high experience compared to gambling addicts. Hard work will only produce good luck, but if we work smarter it produces consistency.

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It always right to instill the discipline that hard work actually do pay off and it really does at least much more in real life issues.
But gambling a whole lot of new things. My first struck at gambling as a newbie in that area I readjust went with my instincts not doing much and I actually won. So it about hard work and also about luck too

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If gambling would always bring profit to users, it would not be beneficial for the owners of gambling. There are certain winning percentages that are available to the player and that’s it.

Everyone couldn't get profits from gambling. Once you are winning on the gambling that means someone losing other side. It might be other user or website/author it self. It likely trading, someone losing and someone wining. That's the nature of gambling and for that reason we have seen lots of lost topic here. Because few people lost a lot.

However, hard work will improve your experience and likely you will win sometimes instead of lose always.

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