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November 11, 2018, 08:24:01 AM
I don't think that it can call as a hard work, playing gambling is not like you are also working on your job. Does it depend on chances of winning so where's the hard work there? I don't think will consider as a hard work.
Hardwork is coming from hard labor jobs, but totally in gambling it doesn't count so far. Maybe it can be a form of efforts coming from the desires which results either winning or losing in a certain bets you had in a gambling game, neither online or physical gambling. Most of gambling games nowadays comes in a virtual form which can be performed through internet based engines, and much more enjoyable compared from traditional gambling.
Yes, so I can't really consider playing gambling as a hard work. Maybe the author of this thread means that we need some hard work on playing gambling but I don't think we really need hard work for playing gambling. We doesn't know if we are going to win in gambling or not so don't take too serious about this kind of activity using a hard work.
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November 10, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
The only thing that is going to matter during gambling is luck. Even if you do some hard work, there will be little impact of any of that. In the end, we need to realize that gambling is a hobby rather than an avenue to make money.

It is the luck that decides the fate whether you will win or not . Very few games where your skills comes into play and which will help you to win the game and poker is one of them where experience and skill is very useful to make you win the game .
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November 10, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
Before someone decide to gamble, they must understand the risk and know exactly the rule of the gambling type so they can proceed the next step for their gambling gameplay.
Of course the process is not instant as they need to keep consistent to gamble with luck and guts in order to achieve massive win !
Dan Bilzerian is the example of the succesful hard work in gambling ( Poker )

I don't know if we can call Dan Bilzerian a hard worker. He was born in a wealthy family and became an internet legend mostly because of his lavish lifestyle. Is that right that he's even a good poker player? I can't find any evidence of that. He claims that he amassed his fortune by playing in private ultra-high-stakes games, but no one actually believes him. Rich and overhyped pop icon? Yes. Hard working self-made man? I don't think so.

Here's a link to a video where he was outplayed by a regular guy, not a professional poker player: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNSYNZ7rBuM

In fact, this is how all those legends about successful and "hard working" gamblers are born. A rich guy is winning periodically while gambling away more of his his money, but talking only about his wins, making an impression that he is a successful gambler.
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November 10, 2018, 02:03:54 AM
I think gambling is a work smart not hard type, in order to win, you need to be very smart and you should think different from majority of losers
in order to be profitable. Choosing a game is very important, it could help you focus and develop your skills, for me, I believe that sports betting could give
me profit in the long run, only if I can improve my strategy.
I agree with you but there is a very important thing that you've forgotten, the luck. Even how expert you are in gambling or any strategies that you apply but if still, you are not lucky one that is not profitable for me. Yes, work hard does not count on gambling, you should know how to find your luck in gambling and followed by different types of strategies may apply and I think that is worked.
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November 10, 2018, 01:06:20 AM
I think gambling is a work smart not hard type, in order to win, you need to be very smart and you should think different from majority of losers
in order to be profitable. Choosing a game is very important, it could help you focus and develop your skills, for me, I believe that sports betting could give
me profit in the long run, only if I can improve my strategy.
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November 09, 2018, 12:40:29 PM
Before someone decide to gamble, they must understand the risk and know exactly the rule of the gambling type so they can proceed the next step for their gambling gameplay.
Of course the process is not instant as they need to keep consistent to gamble with luck and guts in order to achieve massive win !
Dan Bilzerian is the example of the succesful hard work in gambling ( Poker )
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November 09, 2018, 02:34:48 AM
The only thing that is going to matter during gambling is luck. Even if you do some hard work, there will be little impact of any of that. In the end, we need to realize that gambling is a hobby rather than an avenue to make money.

We don't know when the luck comes and we still playing gambling and hope that in the next round, the luck will come to us and help us to win the game. I think gambling is a way to enjoy the game and using the money to make the games more attractive and I don't think that gambling is a hobby. It is better to choose the other activity as a hobby than choosing to gamble.
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November 09, 2018, 01:28:59 AM
The only thing that is going to matter during gambling is luck. Even if you do some hard work, there will be little impact of any of that. In the end, we need to realize that gambling is a hobby rather than an avenue to make money.

Luck is the most powerful thing that could win your every gambling activities but I don't think that that will be that easy since we all know that casinos and gambling sites don't want us to win every time.

With this, you might be banned to a lot of different sites in your place but we all know that that will be just a fantasy for a lot of gamblers since not all of the gamblers can win their gambling games since mostly, they are losing a lot of their money. Hard work count on their jobs, their businesses but in terms of gambling, it will have an opposite effect.
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November 09, 2018, 12:17:57 AM
The only thing that is going to matter during gambling is luck. Even if you do some hard work, there will be little impact of any of that. In the end, we need to realize that gambling is a hobby rather than an avenue to make money.
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November 09, 2018, 12:09:53 AM
Even if you work hard in gambling if luck is not on your side, you will still end up empty handed. Luck and strategy works hand in hand. Just like in real life, working smart is better than working hard. You work hard for your 8 hour job but if you work smart, you can finish your work in a mater of 6 hours by following process. Same with gambling, stay sitting down for 8 hours but no strategy and luck will get you bankrupt.
Yes I experienced it after a bankruptcy at that time I continued to gamble with the remaining money, during which I worked hard in gambling for approximately two months but I did not get a good profit, maybe because I was unlucky at the time, even though I was just playing which in my opinion is the safest game. But as time went on I continued to see analysis every day of each match until finally I was able to get good luck and profit. So working hard at gambling will not guarantee you to consistently get profits if luck is not on your side.
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November 08, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Hard work won't pay off in games of chance such as roulette or slots but it will definitely help with sports betting.  Most people don't really do a lot of research into the matches they are betting on.  They just throw money at their hunch or favorite and don't look at all the past statistics.  It's possible to be a professional sports gambler but a lot of hard work is involved.

I definitely agree to you on this one. There are gambling games that can be won with enough research using stats and more but on games of chances like dice and roulette as you said, no matter how hard the work is given, the chance of losing is still greater than your chance of winning even on a game with only 1% house edge
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November 08, 2018, 07:57:13 PM
Even if you work hard in gambling if luck is not on your side, you will still end up empty handed. Luck and strategy works hand in hand. Just like in real life, working smart is better than working hard. You work hard for your 8 hour job but if you work smart, you can finish your work in a mater of 6 hours by following process. Same with gambling, stay sitting down for 8 hours but no strategy and luck will get you bankrupt.
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November 08, 2018, 12:09:13 AM
Yeah some games do require your strategy and intelligence in playing like poker, but luck still also plays an important role, you don't know what cards you will receive, it could be bad right? how hard you try to make a strategy, it will still be useless if your havent luck
Luck is essential in gambling and even if you play those analysis-based games still you'll ask for it. I played many times with poker and each player even the skilled ones are hoping that it may come to them.

Merits to those hardworking people but its really different when we say working hard in gambling. Your hardwork may reap what you deserve but the result varies. Having a combination of these, analysis, hardwork and luck increases the chances of winning.
I absolutely agree with this statement. Skill and luck come hand in hand in some games, but in the end, you can only become so skilled at a game. Luck will always play a significant factor in gambling, and it is supposed to in any game, so you will naturally have good days and bad days, but that doesn't mean having skill doesn't help out. At the same time, there are games that are purely based on luck like virtual dice that don't require much skill at all, and there's not much to improve at there.
Yes that's true and about dice that's another different thing.

Even how hard you work to play the game all day long, 24/7 results aren't really perfect. This is totally relying on your luck and working hard with it doesn't increase the chance of winning.
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November 07, 2018, 10:45:35 AM
I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.
someone who continues to focus on gambling they can certainly find a solution to play with the right calculations and reviews, this causes his addiction to gamble only to perfect the game and look for gaps in playing style with mature strategies. another case with people who are addicted to gambling only hopes for victory, it can have a bad impact because they continue to play greedy without calculation.
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November 07, 2018, 09:58:52 AM
Hard work won't pay off in games of chance such as roulette or slots but it will definitely help with sports betting.  Most people don't really do a lot of research into the matches they are betting on.  They just throw money at their hunch or favorite and don't look at all the past statistics.  It's possible to be a professional sports gambler but a lot of hard work is involved.
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November 07, 2018, 08:50:48 AM
From my personal experience, hard work in gambling plays the opposite role to that in other activities. To enjoy gambling you have to be relaxed, and you can't be relaxed after many hours of playing. Spending a lot of time on studying various "winning strategies" is another kind of hard work in gambling which doesn't give you any good and actually can make you losing more than you normally would. This is the biggest mistake of many gamblers when they make a kind of work out of it, while they should just play for their enjoyment, relaxing in the process, rather than getting tired of it.
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November 07, 2018, 08:47:45 AM
No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.
I disagree. I don't think capital plays a role in gambling because you can gamble even you got only a small amount of money.

I don't see any situations in gambling that needs hard work. Only luck and strategy. Maybe hard work only is counted if your money that you used in gambling came from hard work? For me, hard work doesn't count in gambling.
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November 07, 2018, 05:42:59 AM
No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.
Regardless of the bankroll or capital you have, yes you need to survive as you gamble in the long run.

Having said with luck, it does depend on the gambler and on how it should come to him and that's off with whether its hard work or not.

It would majorly be luck factor that would determine if you end up winning or losing the money in gambling as few games are their where your strategy and experience would come in picture and rest it would be luck that plays a vital role. So may be smart work is what that would count in the end .
Of course, everything about gambling is all about the luck and there is absolutely no way you will not get burned if you drift away from that luck mentality and not pay too much attention to it, while thinking luck will always run in your favor all the time.

Hard work is something that would work in normal life activities like the job you are doing and being recognized for a promotion or in your business and thriving based on the fact that you work hard to make something out of it, but when it comes to gambling, it is all about luck and nothing else.
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November 07, 2018, 12:43:40 AM
No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

But I think there is another opinion from the gambler that says they need to learn one game like the card and it's not easy to learn the lesson. But yes, I agree that in gambling, we must have the luck to win the game, and we can get the money. Unfortunately, it is not as easy as we imagine and it will need more luck and more time to get that money.
In fact, anyone looking for anything outside pure luck when it comes to gambling is actually going to end up in a position they will regret in the long run. Thinking of hard work or trying to stay positive like some people even always mention at times in gambling is something that will put you in a position you will not even have prayed to find yourself in the first place, and a position that will be hard to get out from.

Gambling and everything that has to do with it is luck based. If you want to work hard, try doing other productive things, or learn some skills and be creative with it, while delivering. There are better things to do with hard work when it comes to creativity, and the last time I checked, gambling is never one of them.


Yes, the hard works in the gambling will not give us big money unless a big loss and we can lose all we have. So no matter how hard you work by learning all method or technique for getting a win in the gambling game, you will end up with losing the money and even all of your money. But your hard work in gambling will give a big result which is you can get a lot of money from gambling if you have luck but unfortunately, you don't know when the luck is coming.

So I agree that if we are trying to work hard, it is better to work hard in the positive things because the result will make us satisfied and we can reach bigger effect if we stay focus with what we did before. And when it's related to money, the work hard will earn big money for us, and if we can spend the time to learn more, then we can make bigger money than before.
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November 06, 2018, 09:42:41 PM
Yeah some games do require your strategy and intelligence in playing like poker, but luck still also plays an important role, you don't know what cards you will receive, it could be bad right? how hard you try to make a strategy, it will still be useless if your havent luck
Luck is essential in gambling and even if you play those analysis-based games still you'll ask for it. I played many times with poker and each player even the skilled ones are hoping that it may come to them.

Merits to those hardworking people but its really different when we say working hard in gambling. Your hardwork may reap what you deserve but the result varies. Having a combination of these, analysis, hardwork and luck increases the chances of winning.
I absolutely agree with this statement. Skill and luck come hand in hand in some games, but in the end, you can only become so skilled at a game. Luck will always play a significant factor in gambling, and it is supposed to in any game, so you will naturally have good days and bad days, but that doesn't mean having skill doesn't help out. At the same time, there are games that are purely based on luck like virtual dice that don't require much skill at all, and there's not much to improve at there.
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