Does hard work in gambling count? - page 18.

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Quote from: pixie85 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:31 PM

Hard work doesn't work in luck games that depend on rolls and nothing else. If you play dice or slots you can spend months playing and you still won't learn anything new. It only works on skill games like poker. An experienced poker player will read you like an open book.

And mostly that comes from experience by playing over time. Very little because of hard work. A lucky guy can beat you over and over again even if you work "hard" To try to win.

A single bet is enough to make us to be a millionaire so playing again is not a hard work or way to win because maybe some person will have zero probability in all the bets here were doing.But some games like poker can say involves hard work can make us successful and here the hard work denotes that building and developing their strategy in the games what they are playing.

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Quote from: pixie85 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:31 PM

Hard work doesn't work in luck games that depend on rolls and nothing else. If you play dice or slots you can spend months playing and you still won't learn anything new. It only works on skill games like poker. An experienced poker player will read you like an open book.

And mostly that comes from experience by playing over time. Very little because of hard work. A lucky guy can beat you over and over again even if you work "hard" To try to win.

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Quote from: STT on September 20, 2018, 08:18:23 PM

Take hard work and intrepret that as homework and I think it can relate to a careful process that would reward results in gambling. As opposed to just betting randomly as and when you feel like it, in a purely entertainment way. Its possible someone who takes careful note of their previous success and runs a book on their betting could notice a trend of what works for them. No general advice here can tell people how to play their own book so just knowing what you do and whats worked for you, I think that'd help some

I may beg to differ a little though, even if I understand what you are saying, however, strategies you develop over the years from gambling might help you to some extent, but it is not like it would keep guaranteeing results forever and basically everything is still centered on luck at the end of the day. I understand that just playing the game sometimes without strategy is obviously worse than having a strategy, but relying so much on the strategy and considering hard work to help in such situation, which in this case might equal to resilience and persistence, then, i would say it could even result to a major problem.

Quote from: Symphonized on September 20, 2018, 04:21:48 PM

I've learned how to bet properly in Roulete and where i would get more profit / success on specific sets.

For example if you bet in specific numbers with a big amount you will eventually profit because theres not alot of red streaks from roullete.

Hmm. I really want to see how far that would get you in the long run anyway. I really do not see how some strategy can always play out in gambling, no matter the type of game you are playing, but since you said you found one, I would say you still try as much as possible to limit yourself and not put so much attention to it. Based on what the OP said though, gambling is not work and I do not see how hard work can really make much difference when it comes to gambling.

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Quote from: Wete on September 19, 2018, 11:54:58 AM

Basically, gambling depends on luck, but gambling strategies are also needed.

Strategies are needed if you play games that requires it to win. You have to know how to read the game and so you can create your own strategy through it.

Quote from: Wete on September 19, 2018, 11:54:58 AM

That is the reason why some people work hard to learn strategies about gambling, which will increase the chances of winning.

And only few of them succeed and mostly failed.

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Take hard work and intrepret that as homework and I think it can relate to a careful process that would reward results in gambling. As opposed to just betting randomly as and when you feel like it, in a purely entertainment way. Its possible someone who takes careful note of their previous success and runs a book on their betting could notice a trend of what works for them. No general advice here can tell people how to play their own book so just knowing what you do and whats worked for you, I think that'd help some

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Hard work doesn't work in luck games that depend on rolls and nothing else. If you play dice or slots you can spend months playing and you still won't learn anything new. It only works on skill games like poker. An experienced poker player will read you like an open book.

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I've learned how to bet properly in Roulete and where i would get more profit / success on specific sets.

For example if you bet in specific numbers with a big amount you will eventually profit because theres not alot of red streaks from roullete.

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Quote from: Wete on September 19, 2018, 11:54:58 AM

Basically, gambling depends on luck, but gambling strategies are also needed. That is the reason why some people work hard to learn strategies about gambling, which will increase the chances of winning.

You are right, even if you work hard, if you are not enough lucky, you will lose, but as you said it is important to know strategies for increasing the chances of winning.

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Basically, gambling depends on luck, but gambling strategies are also needed. That is the reason why some people work hard to learn strategies about gambling, which will increase the chances of winning.

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Quote from: cleygaux on September 04, 2018, 10:31:43 PM

Its really a stupid thing to study the weakness of a gambling game in-order to win huge amount of money people who do this is only wasting their time instead of working inorder to earn good amount of money I cant say it as a hardwork but instead I will call it stealing money from others.

How could you say it's stupid? It "could" increase the chance of winning and implying strategies would be a great thing. It's not a waste of time if you have an output of it but if you are talking about luck, it won't work because you cannot control it. I clearly had a hard time understanding what you said because you should've separated you sentences lol. So you're saying that gambling is stealing then? It's definitely not accurate.

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Its really a stupid thing to study the weakness of a gambling game in-order to win huge amount of money people who do this is only wasting their time instead of working inorder to earn good amount of money I cant say it as a hardwork but instead I will call it stealing money from others.

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How we can give hard work on gambling buddy. That will not work at all as I know. If you invested on gambling and looking for profit means that is actually damn worst idea ever in this world. So consider gambling as a investment factor alone.

Other than that we need to check the people to share the tactics follow to hit the jackpot on any kind of games. That may be helpful one for we people.

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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

Hard work always tends to give us good profits but i guess hard work is of no use in gambling. You just have to simply bet on something and leave everythig on your luck. Gambling depends mostly on your technical knowledge and your luck. Hardwork is not required according to me but yes there are some hardworker gamblers who do prefer to make a detailed research before betting on something. These peoples do need to do some hardwork to have profits.

In gambling, just bet and sit back and relax, if you are lucky you will win, or else no. Gambling is for fun and to relax after you have worked hard. Games like Card Games, Poker etc might require your knowledge and sharp intellect. For those games yup, a little work is necessary if you are really planning to win, and the hard work pays off, but still depends on the luck of the player.

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Quote from: imadmirer on July 01, 2018, 11:15:05 PM

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

Hard work always tends to give us good profits but i guess hard work is of no use in gambling. You just have to simply bet on something and leave everythig on your luck. Gambling depends mostly on your technical knowledge and your luck. Hardwork is not required according to me but yes there are some hardworker gamblers who do prefer to make a detailed research before betting on something. These peoples do need to do some hardwork to have profits.

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Quote from: imadmirer on July 01, 2018, 11:15:05 PM

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

There's no expert in gambling but only expert in losing there. They can have so much experience in gambling but they does not gain anything from it that gives them any advantage. It's a game that most of the time is random. It's a bad habit and waste of time and all of your money.

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I never think that hard work will work because we have seen many gambling even though they research very nicely but couldn't manage to make successful in it. Sometimes it makes us lose a lot of money, gambling is completely based on luck and finding the righta game to win.

maybe in some gambling game needs hard work to get the win, like for example, he learns about how to play poker with good in many sources and he spends his time to learn the technique or else. and I think he can say that he does the hard work to master in poker so he can win the poker game but for other people, hard work is not included in the gambling game. I think it depends on what we did and how we did on the gambling game.

I agree because there are some people who does not need all the hard work to win in gambling because some are lucky or have been playing the game a long time and know already how the game works. But there are a few people who consider learning first before getting into the game and apply it once they get into gambling. But for me, I really think it is pure luck to win in gambling.

Game can be vary either a strategic or luck-based ones which its normal or common for us to differentiate that hard work wont really be fitted out into those luck based games.I dont even know why the word hard work is being connected through gambling since this doesnt really require much effort for you to make money. It always matter with luck because no matter how you effort if luck wont be at your side then it would still be useless.

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Quote from: quality.crypto on August 29, 2018, 11:40:09 PM

I never think that hard work will work because we have seen many gambling even though they research very nicely but couldn't manage to make successful in it. Sometimes it makes us lose a lot of money, gambling is completely based on luck and finding the righta game to win.

maybe in some gambling game needs hard work to get the win, like for example, he learns about how to play poker with good in many sources and he spends his time to learn the technique or else. and I think he can say that he does the hard work to master in poker so he can win the poker game but for other people, hard work is not included in the gambling game. I think it depends on what we did and how we did on the gambling game.

I agree because there are some people who does not need all the hard work to win in gambling because some are lucky or have been playing the game a long time and know already how the game works. But there are a few people who consider learning first before getting into the game and apply it once they get into gambling. But for me, I really think it is pure luck to win in gambling.

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Quote from: Saveplus on August 25, 2018, 07:27:54 PM

Hard work is not for gambling,it is when you are lucky to play on gambling and you win.Hard work is for trading and you patiently waiting for your profit to come.

No, Hard work is bad on investing or trading since the patient is not there. Hard working is going in and going in and don't stop doing it. This type of worker is not for investing or in gambling but for employees or workers that is getting tired in there jobs. Not getting tired "of" there job but getting tired "in" there job, there is a difference there.

Being patient is for investors, that is right there is also being knowledgeable and being skillful, being a strategist on what he will be doing. Hardworking is a trait for people that don't want, well most of them, to earn money a long time, especially this is a trait for people that is just starting in an industry or on his career.

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Quote from: quality.crypto on August 29, 2018, 11:40:09 PM

I never think that hard work will work because we have seen many gambling even though they research very nicely but couldn't manage to make successful in it. Sometimes it makes us lose a lot of money, gambling is completely based on luck and finding the right game to win.

maybe in some gambling game needs hard work to get the win, like for example, he learns about how to play poker with good in many sources and he spends his time to learn the technique or else. and I think he can say that he does the hard work to master in poker so he can win the poker game but for other people, hard work is not included in the gambling game. I think it depends on what we did and how we did on the gambling game.

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Quote from: coinplus on August 09, 2018, 08:37:19 AM

Random results are obvious from gambling always hence targeting something with hard work is complete meaningless. No gamblers is ready to understand this fundamental of gambling that is the reason we are having such a topic of hard work for finding success in gambling.

Random results are teaching us to expect the unexpected from gambling. We may gamble with same set of everything but the results will be definite different. By considering this, on what basis we may put our efforts with gambling ? We may work hard but results will be something different from what we expect ? These are the reason why many veteran gamblers from this community always emphasizing about "accept whatever result you will be getting". Because only due to aiming for something and then chasing that and finally getting addicted is the consequence.

Hard work is good and must be appreciated but senseless hard work will definitely lead to ending up in vain. We may work hard for something to achieve but we must avoid working hard when we are well aware of how that work will result in.

Hard work is always there in the sense you spend time in casino, sitting for a long of time thinking a lot , getting opinion from your friends and I think that all these are part of gambling. You automatically do all these hard work if you are playing in a casino.

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