Does hard work in gambling count? - page 17.

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Quote from: mornabo on November 06, 2018, 09:16:14 AM

Yeah some games do require your strategy and intelligence in playing like poker, but luck still also plays an important role, you don't know what cards you will receive, it could be bad right? how hard you try to make a strategy, it will still be useless if your havent luck

Luck is essential in gambling and even if you play those analysis-based games still you'll ask for it. I played many times with poker and each player even the skilled ones are hoping that it may come to them.

Merits to those hardworking people but its really different when we say working hard in gambling. Your hardwork may reap what you deserve but the result varies. Having a combination of these, analysis, hardwork and luck increases the chances of winning.

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Quote from: Wete on September 19, 2018, 11:54:58 AM

Basically, gambling depends on luck, but gambling strategies are also needed. That is the reason why some people work hard to learn strategies about gambling, which will increase the chances of winning.

In some games you do require strategy and experience as both counts. So here people need to work hard in order to get it polished and this can be added advantage to them against their competitors. So working on such would key for a good betting session for people.

Yeah some games do require your strategy and intelligence in playing like poker, but luck still also plays an important role, you don't know what cards you will receive, it could be bad right? how hard you try to make a strategy, it will still be useless if your havent luck

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

Having more capital is not important in gambling in my opinion because if someone has no luck but keeps playing means he is going to lose everything so how many round won't help to increase the winning in gambling so it is only about luck.

Huge balance won't guarantee that we will able to win at the end. If we keep gambling, in the long run, our balance will be decreased little by little and if we aren't lucky enough, all that balance would be gone. Having huge balance for sure we will play with higher amount as well.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

Having more capital is not important in gambling in my opinion because if someone has no luck but keeps playing means he is going to lose everything so how many round won't help to increase the winning in gambling so it is only about luck.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

But I think there is another opinion from the gambler that says they need to learn one game like the card and it's not easy to learn the lesson. But yes, I agree that in gambling, we must have the luck to win the game, and we can get the money. Unfortunately, it is not as easy as we imagine and it will need more luck and more time to get that money.

In fact, anyone looking for anything outside pure luck when it comes to gambling is actually going to end up in a position they will regret in the long run. Thinking of hard work or trying to stay positive like some people even always mention at times in gambling is something that will put you in a position you will not even have prayed to find yourself in the first place, and a position that will be hard to get out from.

Gambling and everything that has to do with it is luck based. If you want to work hard, try doing other productive things, or learn some skills and be creative with it, while delivering. There are better things to do with hard work when it comes to creativity, and the last time I checked, gambling is never one of them.

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Quote from: onrise on October 30, 2018, 01:13:23 AM

Quote from: Wete on September 19, 2018, 11:54:58 AM

Basically, gambling depends on luck, but gambling strategies are also needed. That is the reason why some people work hard to learn strategies about gambling, which will increase the chances of winning.

In some games you do require strategy and experience as both counts. So here people need to work hard in order to get it polished and this can be added advantage to them against their competitors. So working on such would key for a good betting session for people.

If you are really serious on your gambling career, then gambling with good strategies is really good. If you want to gamble forever then you must be equipped with the right strategies and that is where you need to work and not just to depend on your luck.

At some point your hard work will be useless in gambling because gambling plays most of the time base on your luck. For me, its better to work hard on yourself setting up your limits and your target goal which can save you from losing big money. Don't work too much on your gambling strategies because for me, you will still lose money in the long run no matter how hard you work for it.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

But I think there is another opinion from the gambler that says they need to learn one game like the card and it's not easy to learn the lesson. But yes, I agree that in gambling, we must have the luck to win the game, and we can get the money. Unfortunately, it is not as easy as we imagine and it will need more luck and more time to get that money.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

Regardless of the bankroll or capital you have, yes you need to survive as you gamble in the long run.

Having said with luck, it does depend on the gambler and on how it should come to him and that's off with whether its hard work or not.

It would majorly be luck factor that would determine if you end up winning or losing the money in gambling as few games are their where your strategy and experience would come in picture and rest it would be luck that plays a vital role. So may be smart work is what that would count in the end .

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

Regardless of the bankroll or capital you have, yes you need to survive as you gamble in the long run.

Having said with luck, it does depend on the gambler and on how it should come to him and that's off with whether its hard work or not.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

I cant fully agree with this, gambling is not only about our bankroll. Even if your bankroll is so huge, it does not guarantee that you'll survive in the long round because your greediness may make you bet above your limit and makes you lose faster. The most important thing is about how you manage your money.

yes gambling is not just about bankroll to survive how long you are able to navigate gambling, if you only see bankrolls is everything in gambling then I can say your experience is still not enough to wade through the wild currents in gambling. Even with a small bankroll if you are lucky with a lot of experience, I'm sure you can survive in the round of the game and make a very good profit.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

I cant fully agree with this, gambling is not only about our bankroll. Even if your bankroll is so huge, it does not guarantee that you'll survive in the long round because your greediness may make you bet above your limit and makes you lose faster. The most important thing is about how you manage your money.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

Not necessary, yes huge capital has an advantage to survive long run of losing but more experience is better way to win in gambling because person have more experience know how to handle emotion that can lead him to win every time they gamble but it depends of the luck of every player.

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Quote from: gowobonyok on November 01, 2018, 03:38:20 AM

No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

Which in most cases, you actually do not want to be carrying capital that you know that you cannot afford to lose whenever trying to gamble. Like you said, gambling is all about luck and if by hard luck someone is trying to come up with the idea of pushing yourself harder into gambling or making the best of gambling, I will say that is more like trying to jump into a hot coal because in the end, such zeal and push will only end up leading such a person into someone they do not want to become or in a position they really would not have wished for themselves. Hard work is for real life activities when you know you can get something tangible from it, do not waste your time concentrating too much on gambling since it is all about the luck.

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No, gambling is about how much capital we carry to be able to survive long in the round of the game and wait for the mistakes of other players, and about luck. there is no specific theory in gambling, that is my experience.

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Quote from: pixie85 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:31 PM

Hard work doesn't work in luck games that depend on rolls and nothing else. If you play dice or slots you can spend months playing and you still won't learn anything new. It only works on skill games like poker. An experienced poker player will read you like an open book.

And mostly that comes from experience by playing over time. Very little because of hard work. A lucky guy can beat you over and over again even if you work "hard" To try to win.

The harder we try in gambling, the more things that will bother our minds. For example, we will find many new strategies that we certainly want to try. Such things will keep us in gambling habit for a long time without a target which will surely bad in the long run. And yes, a newbie can have the better luck than the experienced one. Luck won't care who the person who will get it.

Hard work is even something that I believe only applies to investment or one's job generally, but gambling? No way! I wonder why someone will even be thinking that in the first place, knowing that gambling is just a game and based on the fact that if you get so engrossed in it, it can be jeopardizing, then, you will know that the act of trying as much as possible to limit yourself from spending too much time gambling is something you should always take into consideration, let alone, being hard working. Actually, that is something new to me, as I wonder what people think actually when they tend to approach gambling.

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Quote from: onrise on October 30, 2018, 01:13:23 AM

Quote from: Wete on September 19, 2018, 11:54:58 AM

Basically, gambling depends on luck, but gambling strategies are also needed. That is the reason why some people work hard to learn strategies about gambling, which will increase the chances of winning.

In some games you do require strategy and experience as both counts. So here people need to work hard in order to get it polished and this can be added advantage to them against their competitors. So working on such would key for a good betting session for people.

Strategy, experience, nothing really counts except luck and if you are not lucky, there is actually nothing for you and the only way experience and strategy may come in, is to know that you need to always set a limit for yourself, either as a loser or as a winner. Hard work can apply to so many things, but not in gambling.

If you want to be hard working, go start a business, get a job or even start your own casino and work hard to make it a very sweet place for gamblers to come waste their money, because whether you like it or not, the only people making the best from gambling are the casino or platform owners and you are the one giving it to them.

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Quote from: onrise on October 30, 2018, 01:13:23 AM

In some games you do require strategy and experience as both counts. So here people need to work hard in order to get it polished and this can be added advantage to them against their competitors. So working on such would key for a good betting session for people.

It is situational, if the gambler mostly plays with luck based games then it doesn't really require skills, strategy or experience. What he only need is money to gamble but hardwork is always appreciated. Like I stated that it is situational, all of those points do count.
Hard work may be the key for some but it may not also be the key for others. This now depends on your point of view base on your experience on how you're making good result with gambling.

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Quote from: Wete on September 19, 2018, 11:54:58 AM

Basically, gambling depends on luck, but gambling strategies are also needed. That is the reason why some people work hard to learn strategies about gambling, which will increase the chances of winning.

In some games you do require strategy and experience as both counts. So here people need to work hard in order to get it polished and this can be added advantage to them against their competitors. So working on such would key for a good betting session for people.

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Quote from: gabmen on September 22, 2018, 12:30:05 PM

Quote from: pixie85 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:31 PM

Hard work doesn't work in luck games that depend on rolls and nothing else. If you play dice or slots you can spend months playing and you still won't learn anything new. It only works on skill games like poker. An experienced poker player will read you like an open book.

And mostly that comes from experience by playing over time. Very little because of hard work. A lucky guy can beat you over and over again even if you work "hard" To try to win.

The harder we try in gambling, the more things that will bother our minds. For example, we will find many new strategies that we certainly want to try. Such things will keep us in gambling habit for a long time without a target which will surely bad in the long run. And yes, a newbie can have the better luck than the experienced one. Luck won't care who the person who will get it.

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Quote from: gabmen on September 22, 2018, 12:30:05 PM

Quote from: pixie85 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:31 PM

Hard work doesn't work in luck games that depend on rolls and nothing else. If you play dice or slots you can spend months playing and you still won't learn anything new. It only works on skill games like poker. An experienced poker player will read you like an open book.

And mostly that comes from experience by playing over time. Very little because of hard work. A lucky guy can beat you over and over again even if you work "hard" To try to win.

A single bet is enough to make us to be a millionaire so playing again is not a hard work or way to win because maybe some person will have zero probability in all the bets here were doing.But some games like poker can say involves hard work can make us successful and here the hard work denotes that building and developing their strategy in the games what they are playing.

I feel like online poker against the house is as random as any other game and work doesn't matter. It's 1v1 against a computer that randomizes everything and deals what the algorithm tells it to. People seem to think that it's a skill-based game, but no online game against the house is skill based. I'll give you an example. When you roll the dice in a casino you can modify the strength of the throw, you can make them roll more or less, you can set them in your hand to roll from the side that you want, you are rolling the same pair every time. In an online game you can't impact the game in any way. It's almost the same with cards, that's why people prefer to play live poker.

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