Does hard work in gambling count? - page 24.

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Quote from: Direwolve735 on July 26, 2018, 01:39:34 PM

I think that most of all persistence brings success in gambling. When a person stands firmly in his position and is confident of his victory, then most likely he will succeed. Belief in your abilities in combination with analytical skills and experience is the main combination of success in gambling.

WHich game are you talking about being confident and stand firmly, In many games in gambling field, neither experience nor hard work comes into effect. Hard work with gambling knowledge and experience helps very rarely in few games only. Dice games has nothing to do with hard work, its pure luck.

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I think that most of all persistence brings success in gambling. When a person stands firmly in his position and is confident of his victory, then most likely he will succeed. Belief in your abilities in combination with analytical skills and experience is the main combination of success in gambling.

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Quote from: Sukut on July 26, 2018, 07:11:06 AM

Of course it does. Most games need some training / experience and statistical knowledge

Rather than hard you should be smart and play those games where chances of you winning is more than the other or the house. You need to also know your strengths and play accordingly and should see if luck favors or not in process.

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Hard work can pay off in gambling. Obviously this won't apply to games of chance such as dice or roulette. But hard work pays off with Sports betting. It takes a lot of time and knowledge to be able to predict the outcome of sports matches. You have to know the players, stats, injuries, field advantage, etc. The information is something you have to stay constantly updated on as well. Any average Joe can slap down a quick bet but a real pro takes the time to learn everything he can.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on July 26, 2018, 02:42:03 AM

Quote from: Duzter on July 25, 2018, 02:17:49 PM

With gambling smart work is much in need which is the calculation and other related factors.

There is nothing called smart work. You should do that in your workplace and not in gambling or in any game of chance where the odds are against you.

Quote from: Symphonized on July 26, 2018, 01:18:23 AM

Or just get a huge bet profit and get a new life Cheesy

Getting a new life would be better because only 1 in a million people win the jackpot and practically its a waste if time if you chase it.

Do you think that every game have a jackpot? Do you think that every game has odds against you?
When it comes to hard work it is all about the learning of different strategies! Its not a false statement, its true. You learn along the way, you try to find better approach, I didn't lose and fail 1000 times, it was just found ways that didn't work. Hard work is essence, nothing without it. Nothing without nights and nights of being awake and trying, learning new ways.
For end I will just say poker! Don't look gambling trough dice and slot games, its not all about it, its fun, real games are the one where you need to think, to have attitude, to be intelligent and to outsmart others with your mind or bankroll, you choose your advantage.

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Of course it does. Most games need some training / experience and statistical knowledge

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Quote from: Duzter on July 25, 2018, 02:17:49 PM

With gambling smart work is much in need which is the calculation and other related factors.

There is nothing called smart work. You should do that in your workplace and not in gambling or in any game of chance where the odds are against you.

Quote from: Symphonized on July 26, 2018, 01:18:23 AM

Or just get a huge bet profit and get a new life Cheesy

Getting a new life would be better because only 1 in a million people win the jackpot and practically its a waste if time if you chase it.

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Quote from: WaffleMaster on July 25, 2018, 06:22:52 PM

The only hard work in gambling that counts are for games where you're playing other players. You'll literally never be able to beat the house edge in any games offered, so hard work in those games doesn't count. You CAN beat other players and have an edge over them, so things like learning what the % chance of flopping a flush with 2 suited cards in texas holdem is valuable. So if you know the probability of every circumstance you can compare it to the pot and see if your odds of hitting something good outweigh the price to continue in the hand.

If you work hard in knowing the probabilities then most likely you will have an edge over other players but not the house. Even if you have a high probability of winning but still luck is not in your favor then most likely you will end up losing more. It will raise your morale though when your probability work sometimes but then don't depend on it too much and always know your limitation when gambling cause there were so many lives that were destroyed being addicted to it. Think of your hard work too in gaining that money so that you can gamble. Wink

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 17, 2018, 07:26:40 AM

Putting your time in to poker and sports betting counts. For the most part it's all on luck because it can turn things in your way even though all hope is lost.

and other gambling games that uses analysis counts too. luck plays a huge role in gambling it can change your life depend on the result its either you win or lose that's how gambling works.

Goes to say that hard work applies to some gambling games but majority would only waste your time since they're mainly reliant on luck. Poker for me not only counts hard work, but you have to enjoy what you're doing. It's easy to like poker anyways

It is the waste of your time. You may be encountering with such conditions at many times that why I am doing this. I know this isn’t right thing to do. I know it clearly that this is just harmful for me and it is proving to be harmful, but why I am going again and again here. So don’t just make things only in your mind. Just do it. Leave gambling for so many reasons and make your life amazing

Or just get a huge bet profit and get a new life Cheesy

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Quote from: gabmen on July 17, 2018, 09:33:36 AM

Quote from: Script3d on July 17, 2018, 08:53:33 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on July 17, 2018, 07:26:40 AM

Putting your time in to poker and sports betting counts. For the most part it's all on luck because it can turn things in your way even though all hope is lost.

and other gambling games that uses analysis counts too. luck plays a huge role in gambling it can change your life depend on the result its either you win or lose that's how gambling works.

Goes to say that hard work applies to some gambling games but majority would only waste your time since they're mainly reliant on luck. Poker for me not only counts hard work, but you have to enjoy what you're doing. It's easy to like poker anyways

It is the waste of your time. You may be encountering with such conditions at many times that why I am doing this. I know this isn’t right thing to do. I know it clearly that this is just harmful for me and it is proving to be harmful, but why I am going again and again here. So don’t just make things only in your mind. Just do it. Leave gambling for so many reasons and make your life amazing

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The only hard work in gambling that counts are for games where you're playing other players. You'll literally never be able to beat the house edge in any games offered, so hard work in those games doesn't count. You CAN beat other players and have an edge over them, so things like learning what the % chance of flopping a flush with 2 suited cards in texas holdem is valuable. So if you know the probability of every circumstance you can compare it to the pot and see if your odds of hitting something good outweigh the price to continue in the hand.

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With gambling smart work is much in need which is the calculation and other related factors. When it comes to hard work it is all about the learning of different strategies that are available to overcome the losses. Hard work along with smart work with respect to spending that is affordable gets success in gambling.

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certainly experience in gambling is needed. For example, poker should not only be able to play well, but also be able to bluff.

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I think hard work plus gambling will just be ending up in frustration. I think if people will gamble, all you will need is knowledge about how it is being played, few experiences and have fun. If you try to gamble for income, I think nothing would end well.
If I am to be asked, Hard work is meant for jobs that contributes to the society and that hard work will pay off when you get your monthly salary.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on July 21, 2018, 12:18:01 PM

Quote from: kotajikikox on July 21, 2018, 10:21:41 AM

Of course they have specially the casino banker repsentative continue to study and learn a new strategy how to become masters in the game of gambling, hard work are part of the ways to become master in any field of job.

I don't believe that there can be a master of gambling since gambling is a game of luck, you do not know what will happen your money. Also, hard work has nothing to do with gambling since as I've said, it is a game of luck. Hard work is a trait that needs to be used in a job and not on gambling. If you are a hard worker, it doesn't mean that you can master it since you still need knowledge and skills to it.

Hard work is only in start when you are new to gambling and you want to learn all the aspects of gambling and then you will have to believe in your experience and skills to win the game and there is no role of hard work in game. Gambling should not be making money but for entertainment and fun, otherwise you will lose all your money and respect as well.

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It will count if you only using free money or faucet to practice strategies that will fit your gameplay when using your own money. You can also try using alt coins that is cheaper than Bitcoin to try your strategies. But of course it is gambling there is no 100 percent chance of winning you might lose in the long run. Withdrawing your winnings and not being too greedy is a good strategy when gambling goodluck.

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Quote from: Anait on July 24, 2018, 01:22:58 PM

With gambling the hard work surely helps with the learning of different strategies that are helpful in winning. In the event of learning the user might loss, but the experience gained will let him go further and win. Even after gaining experience users will loss big, which is completely upon the luck of the users.

That is if you are in a game like poker then I'm sure that you need to work hard specially strategies that you need to beat your opponent. As for any other games, its based on pure luck and the more you study and try hard to beat the system, the more you will end up losing a lot of money. I love roulette, but if you look at it, there are a lot of studies about that game and some of them are saying that it can be defeated. But no, it is still based on luck and no amount of math or physics will bring any favourable outcome on your end.

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With gambling the hard work surely helps with the learning of different strategies that are helpful in winning. In the event of learning the user might loss, but the experience gained will let him go further and win. Even after gaining experience users will loss big, which is completely upon the luck of the users.

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Quote from: aghedo1 on July 20, 2018, 10:50:36 AM

No, it is a product of luck.That is why it is gambling and not investments

Exactly in gambling the result doesn't depend on how much research you did or which strategy you applied if it's your day or you are lucky you will make profit otherwise you won't be happy when you are done with gambling.
If you are willing to spend time then spend on something useful not on something like gambling

I don’t think that hard work can help in gambling because it is not business and there is no hard work in gambling. Only experience, skills, tactics, tricks and of course luck can win the game for you. In the start you can work hard for becoming a gambling expert and then there is no role of hard work for the rest. Hard work can help you in other fields of life.

Right.Hard work won't be a big deal in gambling because it's not a profession that you need to master,rather it's simply an entertainment where you can be a winner or loser in the end.And i believe as much as you are lucky that day,i'm sure you have high chances of winning the game.

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Quote from: imadmirer on July 01, 2018, 11:15:05 PM

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game?
This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off?
If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly.
This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing.

I suppose we should agree that any hard work counts, because the more time a person spends on some activity, the more skilled this person becomes. This is true for any type of activity, it is just that the skills that develop might be irrelevant to the aim. Gambling can be very different. If we are talking about dice, then the only skill one can develop with practice is probably patience. If we talk about poker, on the other hand, I believe it is proven that one can become an expert in it and make it the source of income. Yet addiction might be a serious problem that clouds any other potential achievements of an experienced gambler, because it can also increase with time, forcing one to make the decisions which the gambler actually knows to be wrong.

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