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legendary
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August 02, 2018, 12:54:21 PM
Doing a research at complete stretch for a specific game does count, but at certain levels. It can give you the knowledge, the more you know the higher the chances of understanding the game players and their style of play. But, sometimes luck factor plays an important role in making us win because even best of the best teams lose when any of their good players either don't play or are under bad form which is totally unpredictable. I've seen gamblers making good money during live matches with such knowledge instead of betting before the games started. It really pays off to have an in-depth analysis and research of a game, be it through gambling or by giving tips to people who follow you.
full member
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August 02, 2018, 12:38:26 PM
I think hard work in gambling is counted because every effort have a price as a payment.So l think l can meet my expectations in hard working even in gambling.lf l do hard work in gambling l will sure to be succeed.
You can't say this easily, you can't be too hardworking if what you are doing is out nowhere  to find success.

I know that success can't be found easily but in gambling, there's really no direction on where you are going. It can be by fate or you're really good and hardworking but it's more of random based results so what if you don't know how to play analyze-based games and you are only into luck basis games?
It depends on a game, some of them based on luck and you don't need to make an effort for winning.
legendary
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August 02, 2018, 09:15:56 AM
I think hard work in gambling is counted because every effort have a price as a payment.So l think l can meet my expectations in hard working even in gambling.lf l do hard work in gambling l will sure to be succeed.

I'm sure no matter how hard you effort, you wont get any success from gambling unless your hard work is not gambling itself. Like above image, you may get success by working hard to get referrals. Obviously, you should not gamble what you earn from the referrals. Otherwise, you will just waste your time and hard work because you will lose it all eventually.
hero member
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August 02, 2018, 09:04:49 AM
If the game you are playing is Dice or Slots, you don't need to study for any strategy, its nothing pure luck. Those who are claiming that they have a strategy that can beat the dice games and make you rich is pure BS, the only one who will be be rich is the one selling the strategy. If its card games that you are playing you need to work on bluffing, how to bluff and how to read others body movement. Its either you are holding a good card or the other player is just bluffing.

Here also you cannot get the hard work taken count. Henceforth you please check the marketplace growth of the coin and make the money with your perfect stretegy mate.
People who ever put their hard work on the gambling field they lost the all fund they have with them.
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August 02, 2018, 08:47:43 AM
I think hard work in gambling is counted because every effort have a price as a payment.So l think l can meet my expectations in hard working even in gambling.lf l do hard work in gambling l will sure to be succeed.
You can't say this easily, you can't be too hardworking if what you are doing is out nowhere  to find success.

I know that success can't be found easily but in gambling, there's really no direction on where you are going. It can be by fate or you're really good and hardworking but it's more of random based results so what if you don't know how to play analyze-based games and you are only into luck basis games?
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August 02, 2018, 08:16:54 AM
I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

I think hard work in gambling is counted because every effort have a price as a payment.So l think l can meet my expectations in hard working even in gambling.lf l do hard work in gambling l will sure to be succeed.
hero member
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August 02, 2018, 06:02:38 AM
I see your point and I agree that in some of the gambling games you can really improve skills. When playing poker, or blackjack, Pai gow, etc. you learn to remember some cards, which can give you benefit in future, you can learn some patterns so with more years it becomes more likely for you to win. I've experienced that on myself with poker. On the other hand it's not a standard learning and improving skills situation, you can play for 10 years, but one day you're just extremely unlucky and lose everything (which can not happen in case of learning math, for instance). But other gambling games, like dice, slot machines, lottery can't be learned to play, because nothing depends on you here you just click and I don't believe that there some kind of strategies for those games, you can't influence probability laws.
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August 02, 2018, 05:17:18 AM
If the game you are playing is Dice or Slots, you don't need to study for any strategy, its nothing pure luck. Those who are claiming that they have a strategy that can beat the dice games and make you rich is pure BS, the only one who will be be rich is the one selling the strategy. If its card games that you are playing you need to work on bluffing, how to bluff and how to read others body movement. Its either you are holding a good card or the other player is just bluffing.

Sometimes, the strategy that someone is selling might be very convincing, when all honesty is just a specific instruction of a situation where you position yourself in a potential winning edge. Gambling is 90% luck and everything is just what you say bluffing and it could be considered as a strategy, and that you could work as hard as you can to become effective lol.
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
August 02, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
Hard work can make you win from gambling if you have a referral program for example. The more you work on getting referrals the more you are going to make Smiley
For the god sake brother, are you living in this world? No, I am sure you rant. How can you say this for so many times? I am really astonished to see people talking about gambling and giving other some advices that play with this strategy and be positive and blah. For the holy shit, wake up. This game isn’t for earning money. No one ever had earned money and had a happy life with that money.

I think you are mistaken. What sunnybeacher is saying is that if you work hard on getting multiple referrals, you can end up making good money eventually. It's a known fact that people make thousands of USD thanks to their referrals. Take a look at the latest stats from Freebitco.in, for example:

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As you can see, there are two lucky ones who have made a lot from a small number of referrals, but in most cases people earn good money because they were working hard and thus referred dozens of thousand gamblers to the site.
Woww,now I know hard work also can pay you off in gambling as well but still the earning depends on luck itself,the person who is in the second place just made two referrals but made lot of money so more important in gambling is luck than anything else.

We are discussing here, does hard work in gambling count, and I have shown with an example that yes, it does. Luck is such a thing that wouldn't hurt in any case and in any enterprise. Take any field, like music industry, for example, and you'll see that some artists have become popular due to their hard work, while others just because they were lucky.

I'm not trying to say that gambling is absolutely identical to any other enterprise regarding luck. It's not, and probably luck plays bigger role in gambling than in other fields. But luck does play a role in other businesses too, and in the example with referrals, when a user has earned over 16 BTC with just two refs, it was exactly that kind of luck, a business kind of luck, rather than gambling one.
jr. member
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August 02, 2018, 02:57:27 AM
Putting your time in to poker and sports betting counts. For the most part it's all on luck because it can turn things in your way even though all hope is lost.
and other gambling games that uses analysis counts too. luck plays a huge role in gambling it can change your life depend on the result its either you win or lose that's how gambling works.

Goes to say that hard work applies to some gambling games but majority would only waste your time since they're mainly reliant on luck. Poker for me not only counts hard work, but you have to enjoy what you're doing. It's easy to like poker anyways
It is the waste of your time. You may be encountering with such conditions at many times that why I am doing this. I know this isn’t right thing to do. I know it clearly that this is just harmful for me and it is proving to be harmful, but why I am going again and again here. So don’t just make things only in your mind. Just do it. Leave gambling for so many reasons and make your life amazing

Or just get a huge bet profit and get a new life  Cheesy
No, I disagree with this thing. You can’t just get good results just because you are inputting a good effort in gambling. This would be like if a person wants to kill a person and he is trying hard to make this complete and an efficient killing. So you support it just because he is putting efforts in planning and executing stages. No, bad is bad and it can never be changed or modified at any cost.
legendary
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August 02, 2018, 02:43:12 AM
If the game you are playing is Dice or Slots, you don't need to study for any strategy, its nothing pure luck. Those who are claiming that they have a strategy that can beat the dice games and make you rich is pure BS, the only one who will be be rich is the one selling the strategy. If its card games that you are playing you need to work on bluffing, how to bluff and how to read others body movement. Its either you are holding a good card or the other player is just bluffing.
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August 01, 2018, 11:19:18 PM
It can pay off in fact if you know the basics of the game and you you are willing to know more on how to bet properly for in to get profit.
Games like poker where you have to be smarter from your oponents does count as hard work to know where you will be able and how to succeded.

I don't think we need to work hard on gambling since it can bring a lot of negative results on our lives. It is not a thing that if you work hard for it, it will give you a good amount of money since it is a game of luck.

Instead of putting your hard work on gambling, why not start a business, invest on other things like valuable metals and estates that can really pay off your hard work. Gambling may give you profit but it can't be depended on. Just think of the people that get addicted to gambling, they've wasted their life, their family and the opportunity that came to them.

Well sometimes its just a tip of the iceberg for you to become millionaire and luck.
hero member
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August 01, 2018, 09:09:59 PM
Woww,now I know hard work also can pay you off in gambling as well but still the earning depends on luck itself,the person who is in the second place just made two referrals but made lot of money so more important in gambling is luck than anything else.

But if you will be really looking at it, he is not really working hard in gambling but having his way or working hard in that gambling site to earn money, I think there is a difference there.

Yes, he might be using that to gamble or just cashing that out but he is just earning money through referrals, a lot of people can do that even not in a gambling site, he's not really working hard on gambling to earn money. In my opinion the "working hard" type on gambling that we are talking about is maybe the perseverance we have in gambling that even though we lose a lot, we will still gamble and a lot of people know that is not right.
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August 01, 2018, 08:52:16 PM
Hard work can make you win from gambling if you have a referral program for example. The more you work on getting referrals the more you are going to make Smiley
For the god sake brother, are you living in this world? No, I am sure you rant. How can you say this for so many times? I am really astonished to see people talking about gambling and giving other some advices that play with this strategy and be positive and blah. For the holy shit, wake up. This game isn’t for earning money. No one ever had earned money and had a happy life with that money.

I think you are mistaken. What sunnybeacher is saying is that if you work hard on getting multiple referrals, you can end up making good money eventually. It's a known fact that people make thousands of USD thanks to their referrals. Take a look at the latest stats from Freebitco.in, for example:



As you can see, there are two lucky ones who have made a lot from a small number of referrals, but in most cases people earn good money because they were working hard and thus referred dozens of thousand gamblers to the site.
Woww,now I know hard work also can pay you off in gambling as well but still the earning depends on luck itself,the person who is in the second place just made two referrals but made lot of money so more important in gambling is luck than anything else.
STT
legendary
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August 01, 2018, 11:58:17 AM
Some people are very good at the whole social media thing and selling a story.  It pays every organisation to have a kind ability to franchise out that operation possibly though I'm misusing that word, I mean its good for a wide variety of people to be able to take part in a story of growth for that company so its not linear or too flat in its outlook and referrals in a basic way allow that hopefully.  Depends how generous the referral also, its not always worth the bother vs other possibilities.

This is a kind of gamble to hope the small amounts add upto something, I would only gamble profits from efforts like this.  Take success found first before risking some on more wild prospects, bad idea to gamble everything always imo; so yes hard work counts
hero member
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August 01, 2018, 10:33:34 AM
It can pay off in fact if you know the basics of the game and you you are willing to know more on how to bet properly for in to get profit.
Games like poker where you have to be smarter from your oponents does count as hard work to know where you will be able and how to succeded.

I don't think we need to work hard on gambling since it can bring a lot of negative results on our lives. It is not a thing that if you work hard for it, it will give you a good amount of money since it is a game of luck.

Instead of putting your hard work on gambling, why not start a business, invest on other things like valuable metals and estates that can really pay off your hard work. Gambling may give you profit but it can't be depended on. Just think of the people that get addicted to gambling, they've wasted their life, their family and the opportunity that came to them.
Exactly.I think in all types of gambling,majority of them just depends on pure luck.So even if you keep on practicing your skills and put so much hard works on it,still it will not guarantee you to earn profits in the end.Maybe hardworks can do in real jobs,but not with gambling since it's only a form of entertainment.
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
August 01, 2018, 05:45:11 AM
Hard work can make you win from gambling if you have a referral program for example. The more you work on getting referrals the more you are going to make Smiley
For the god sake brother, are you living in this world? No, I am sure you rant. How can you say this for so many times? I am really astonished to see people talking about gambling and giving other some advices that play with this strategy and be positive and blah. For the holy shit, wake up. This game isn’t for earning money. No one ever had earned money and had a happy life with that money.

I think you are mistaken. What sunnybeacher is saying is that if you work hard on getting multiple referrals, you can end up making good money eventually. It's a known fact that people make thousands of USD thanks to their referrals. Take a look at the latest stats from Freebitco.in, for example:



As you can see, there are two lucky ones who have made a lot from a small number of referrals, but in most cases people earn good money because they were working hard and thus referred dozens of thousand gamblers to the site.
sr. member
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August 01, 2018, 05:36:03 AM
Everything about gambling is luck. So hard work may help you to improve your luck a bit, but ultimately it will keep you lucky. I think the description about gambling on Oxford dictionary does meet the point exactly:

"Take risky action in the hope of a desired result."
How does you work it when it is just a trait of a person, luck as well is considered as a traits and talents is not considered as traits because it can be learn through some hard work and certain practices.

You might be missing some points in here and about of the quoted one, it just means that someone should take a leap of faith in order to get of what they have desired, which is luck doesn't apply to it too.
hero member
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August 01, 2018, 05:17:54 AM
It can pay off in fact if you know the basics of the game and you you are willing to know more on how to bet properly for in to get profit.
Games like poker where you have to be smarter from your oponents does count as hard work to know where you will be able and how to succeded.

I don't think we need to work hard on gambling since it can bring a lot of negative results on our lives. It is not a thing that if you work hard for it, it will give you a good amount of money since it is a game of luck.

Instead of putting your hard work on gambling, why not start a business, invest on other things like valuable metals and estates that can really pay off your hard work. Gambling may give you profit but it can't be depended on. Just think of the people that get addicted to gambling, they've wasted their life, their family and the opportunity that came to them.
newbie
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August 01, 2018, 04:54:29 AM
It can pay off in fact if you know the basics of the game and you you are willing to know more on how to bet properly for in to get profit.
Games like poker where you have to be smarter from your oponents does count as hard work to know where you will be able and how to succeded.
To me I think that both are important, in gambling the most important is that you must have good luck, but it is also important that you must have good strategy about gambling. If you do not have any strategy or planning in gambling then the chances of losing money in gambling is increasing.
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