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Op, you seem to be no different from people you are complaining about, because the statements you make. I think every newbie should understand that when they join this forum, they will meet different kinds of people, we do not all speak in the same way. Some high rank members might use words to correct newbies, but they do not mean to attack them, and some newbies may feel as if they are attacking them. In this forum, we are here to learn for many people, at least we should become use to hearing all words from everyone. If you are here to learn, just concentrate on that, newbies should not let comments from high rank members discourage them, since I believe that many newbies have given up in this forum due to the answers they received from the high rank members.
Yes, I agree with you because his complaint did not sound good, according to his statement. They should understand that a group does not consist of all the same type of people. Different kinds of people present themselves in various ways. There are different types of people in the forum, and they are different. Newbies come to the forum and want to do something overnight; they think they are big without listening to the elders. And newbies act like they don't understand anything, but the older members of the forum are not so grown up that newbies don't understand. Newbies should practice reading and listening well, and elders should follow. Only then are good things possible.
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Most advice I see is from people just trying to be helpful. This is not something to get offended by. If something is clearly in the wrong section, there is nothing wrong with pointing it out. Same with low post quality. Many of these are alt account farmers, spammers, and people trying to get into signature campaigns as quickly as possible. That is always going to be perceived negatively, and the criticism will be justified.

If someone can’t handle constructive feedback, this forum isn’t the place for them. Some members can be difficult to deal with and will be rude towards everyone, not just newbies. If you are offended by them there is always the ignore button.
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Its a mixed ecosystem of harsh, nice, rude, mean, kind and any other approach of users here. Dont expect it to be light place. Yes english is quite important too as you need to converse and must be understood by other users as well. But theres always local section for your own native language. Newbies are often degrade here but its fine everybody experience it anyway as long as you can resist some negative criticism no problem mate.

Really these kind of things that are  happening everywhere i don't think is something good. This is not because am a newbie or something, it's because I think it's a something worth doing. That's, we should try and learn the habit of treating everyone with respect, pity care and kindness. not only the person you are treating will have happiness but even that person that is treating him or her would do.
Also you will not only have peace but you will be respected back because respect is reciprocal. Besides, who knows what tomorrow will come with?
Nobody knows what would definitely happen in next one hour. Even not because of anything, we should because of only this and try to exhibit goodness among one another.

Its part for the newbies where to start in the community all of the things they read are too vague to them, the jargon might be hard to understand but sooner or later they will adopt these things if they are really willing to learn. This community has a lot of knowledge and information they can use and gather with their taking paths. Sometimes newbies get judge base on their actions, and other members notice already whats the objective of the newbie here to contribute or just to make spam. To newbies don't get discouraged if you want to learn more. If you are not comfortable you can use your local so people around you will easily accommodate your problems.
Thank you so much for your elderly concern. it so inspiring! and motivated.
Some time, not the rich only but also the poor don't know how to display towards their fellow human being. Despite the fact that am still a newbie don't stop me from saying the reality of what is happening since nobody's name is mentioned. This is just what is happening some time. For the newbies, when you you know that this person is really above your stage, make sure you give him or her the due respect he or she deserves. Doing that sometimes, encourages him, motivate him admire him to the extent of even render you an unexpected assistance. You see! good conduct matters a lot.
sr. member
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Op, you seem to be no different from people you are complaining about, because the statements you make. I think every newbie should understand that when they join this forum, they will meet different kinds of people, we do not all speak in the same way. Some high rank members might use words to correct newbies, but they do not mean to attack them, and some newbies may feel as if they are attacking them. In this forum, we are here to learn for many people, at least we should become use to hearing all words from everyone. If you are here to learn, just concentrate on that, newbies should not let comments from high rank members discourage them, since I believe that many newbies have given up in this forum due to the answers they received from the high rank members.
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Criticism will definitely come as we all make mistakes, but the most important thing is how you handle the criticism you get from people. Often time they are actually right about what they criticise you as a newbie for, and that is because they are far ahead of you in learning and in understanding. So take criticism as a advise for correction. When. I saw your topic I was expecting something different but when I began to read through the thread I discovered that the topic is far from what the thread conveys, this is an observation that needs to be worked on to become a good poster. The ability to make a good post and share your ideas all start from your topic to the body. I saw a post saying that you have been corrected to stop the conflict between your topic and thread but yet you still keep doing it over and over again, take correction and watch your growth in all area of your life.
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Op you just need to understand in this forum people will definitely criticise and sometimes the correction of people might not be really pleasant to you, no matter how you are being corrected rudely don't let it make you up set instead just take the correction.  Don't feel bad when you are corrected,  if you allow correction of people to be a problem to you because of the manner you are being corrected you may never learn anything . Take the correction and grow to be a better person than allowing it to make you to be in pain because you are not being corrected just the way you deserve. 
sr. member
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Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.
I think you are making a complaint out of a bad feeling or a perceived ill treatment from higher ranked members, but you could be a little modest with your choice of words so it doesn't sound as disrespectful as it does already, learning is a good thing and if you've decided to learn, then you must remove sentiments and focus on information gathering. You sound too rude for a learner or a complainant. This level of pride isn't the way forward.

Pepe are different and you wouldn't expect everybody to do things in a way you term right, you should be open to criticisms of you wish to grow and normalize controlling your emotions when you're in a learning environment. It would be more productive if you cited an example of the attacks you claimed here so we can all evaluate it together, but nevertheless more experienced members should  be more lenient in dishing out corrections.

I would also mention that if you're busy calculating the amount of attacks you receive on a learning journey, then you're not ready to learn and you'll lose focus on the main thing. You should instead focus more on the corrections pointed out and work on improving yourself to meet certain standards and those corrections you see as attacks would certainly come no more. The majority of the work is on you, do your due diligence properly in the forum and you'll be alright.
legendary
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Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

The thing is that before posting anything, these newbies who were been criticized failed to read what was in the forum.  How many topics have you found out about guides, and the same questions keeps on repeating themselves asked by different newbies.  If they just use their eyes first, reading and browsing the forum before creating an inquiry thread that has been asked so many times, they should have avoided that criticism.

Each topic has their own corresponding board, it is normal to be reminded if for example a topic about gambling is posted on a Bitcoin discussion board since there is a gambling discussion board that is dedicated to that topic, that thread should be posted or moved there.

So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

Newbies have all the space and time they need to understand how this forum works, but sadly many of them are too impatient or too lazy to give time and understand the forum.  Newbies are not the only one getting bashed, even high-ranking members who happen to make mistakes are also being criticized.  But instead of hating those people who reminded them about their mistakes, many of the higher ranking members accept if they have fault and try to improve and avoid making such mistakes again.

Instead of getting angry, I think it is better to make it as a stepping stone to learn and improve oneself.  After all, getting mad about such a thing will only make us a laughing stock.

sr. member
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OP every high rank members here  felt very inferior at a point when they were a newbie because it looks like you don't even know anything or you can't really make any good contributions to the forum, some only visits a single board that they feel they can take part in discussions there without feeling low of themselves. But the best way that you can stay away from users not saying hateful things to you is to spend more time learning about the forum and reading discussions going on in a particular thread and also read other high ranked members replies then it will guide you on how you can also follow up to avoid making mistakes that will lead to someone saying bad words or how low quality your posts are that is just my humble advice to you and when you are seeking to understand the reason for anything you feel is inappropriate, don't sound aggressive, be calm and make your audience understand the directions you are going so that you will get help and also avoid what will make other users place you in their ignore list.
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Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense, and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.

You took this too far mate, it looks like you are the victim here, you are simply fighting for yourself, I feel your pain, we've all been there but take it easy, some will correct your mistake in a friendly way and some will correct you as if they are fighting you, but the way you wrote this topic makes me feel like you will harm someone in real life if they harshly correct you.

I have been corrected in both ways on this forum before, there are few ones that I don't like, OK how about this?

I created a topic about my father and how I was unable to pay him bad after all he did for me, and he is dead, will you believe that someone on this forum made a joke out of it? I was writing the topic in pain and that was someone reaction, it was painful but I just let it go.

You need to let it go mate, but what they are actually trying to correct could be true, have you checked yourself out? Try fixing it and stop taking it to heart, this is the only way you will improve.
sr. member
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You are asking people to correct newbies without hate words and you are trying to correct them with foul and aggressive words yourself. How does that make your post sound good when you aren't even listening to yourself? They say, to preach what you practice, so if you are not using decent words to make others understand a point, you can't expect them to do the same with others. We need to be following something ourselves before we ask others to do the same.

It's annoying but many people do it. You will see them correcting others about something they do themselves, and sometimes, some people would not let a person do a certain thing only so that they can do it themselves which is cunning but unethical, I guess.

There are a lot of things that happen around us that we might not like seeing or they might make us feel uncomfortable, but ancient people used to say that when you point a finger towards someone, the remaining four fingers point at you, which means that before you start finding mistakes in others or rectifying them on everything they do, make sure you are not making those mistakes yourself.

I understand OP's notion, but evidently, his choice of words is not nice, and anyone reading his post would think they are being cursed and some might not take that very well.
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Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.
All the problems that you listed here have only one and unique solution to them.  You have to bear what people say and and then you have to make your heart understand that you're not here to make people happy but you're here to live your life the way you want on your religious basis.

Don't get attracted to these kind of morons who make fun of people just for the sake of their so called false ego.Try to be a hero first of all at least in your eyes before in the eyes of others.
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Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
You are asking people to correct newbies without hate words and you are trying to correct them with foul and aggressive words yourself. How does that make your post sound good when you aren't even listening to yourself? They say, to preach what you practice, so if you are not using decent words to make others understand a point, you can't expect them to do the same with others. We need to be following something ourselves before we ask others to do the same.

Besides, the things you are talking about don't fall under the category or attacking someone. When someone makes a post in the forum, if it's in a wrong section or if it is against the general guidelines provided, members are supposed to correct them, and as said by some other members earlier, some might just have a different tone but they are never attacking anyone unless it's a scammer or someone making useless posts with a spamming intent.
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Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!

no problem with new members, everyone gets the same space. I don't mean to belittle new members, I'm sure any members who might give advice too harshly are just aiming to remind them how to be in a discussion forum.
The best advice for beginners is to look for information and read it rather than create a question thread where the answer is already in the forum. questions that keep repeating themselves which sometimes makes old members of the forum simply ignore the questions. such as threads regarding forum rules, or earning Merits.
I think every new member just needs a little more effort to find out all the information they need. and when they start posting, it will sound better.
legendary
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Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.
Corrections are fine since they are newbies, and I also started as a newbie here as well like many others are.
Attacks? Can you share some posts where higher ranked members are "ATTACKING" newbies?

Maybe you see criticisms as attacks, and I don't think that's a good thinking. I mean newbies are welcome, but they need to have a thick skin and know if they are needed to be corrected. I mean I also started as a newbie as well a few years ago, but I did watch some YouTube videos and some documentaries with regards to cryptocurrency so that I have something to share here. I also received some corrections, and criticisms in the past, but I don't see them as attacks to me. I also don't do it with other newbies, and in fact, there are many newbies who are making these "WELCOME THREAD" in Meta section, and many are welcoming them.

TBH, I don't know what's the point of this thread because I don't see anybody being attacked. Like what I said, can you please share some posts here where the newbie is being attacked by a high-ranked member. Smiley Thanks.
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So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

Here you go again, I thought your post was meant to tell those that use foul or vulgar language on newbies when they’re corrected to stop using it and you the corrector is also using it now, how will you be listened thing since you can’t practice what you’re preaching? One thing I have come to understand about the forum is that, we all come from different cultures, beliefs and have different human perceptions on how we relate to them. No matter how you correct some people, if it’s their way of expressing themselves and don’t feel bad doing that, they’ll continue to correct newbies in those manners. Some mean no hatred or attack, it is just their way of communicating rather the way of saying to correct someone that is wrong. For every correction, there must be something that lead to it, newbies should take note, learn and correct themselves better the next time.
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If you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

You're the one seeing it as an attack, to them correcting you it mightn't be an attack because we have people from different parts of the world on the forum and not everyone have the same way of thinking/behaving, some people are naturally harsh with their words and others are friendly. You can be corrected in both ways and still they're trying to help you out. You (OP) have to also work on your choice of words because you aren't sounding nice either and some group of people might find your post offensive without you trying to be offensive but just because of your choice of words and that is the same thing that is happening when people correct you and you find it offensive.

This is merely a forum and you are to let things go, don't envy those with high rank instead decide to learn from them. For everyone that have ranked up genuinely, they have sometimes that you can learn from and use it in helping yourself to better your account on the forum. When the correction comes irrespective of how it comes, take the positivity from the correction and move on. This forum isn't real life that you should get all angry that someone is disrespecting you because you don't know who they're in real life. We should all learn to not reason much into things or we'll always get angry at people behaviour.
Yeah I know humans and their behavioral attitudes towards their fellow is unhidden, we can't let it die in us that is why most people has this ego in them while speaking and of course my write-up could looks so harsh but it was the response I gives my feedback as it's said one good turns deserves another. Just imagine where everything are pretty much in better ways people could learn by correction instead of by hates and abusive words, I am not in any way being affected by Whatsoever but still we should learn to mind how we regards our fellows.
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Saying that the post doesn’t belong there isn’t wrong because it’s best to have everything organized. For instance as the newbie joined the forum, they can testify on how organized everything is. How different boards exist and have content related to them. That’s the aim. Regarding poor English, it depends on how it is conveyed. There’s constructive criticism and I stand with it. One of the last one I gave was telling the OP to use paragraphs to enhance readability. And those are things that actually help make them a better poster. So I think approach is what really matters here.
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Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack.

The truth is that anyone is entitled to be criticized in this forum, whether you are a newbie or old higher ranks. If something wrong is being done, some beginners need to be attacked so that they don't repeat such things next time. However, if nobody is trying to correct beginners, they will surely continue with their bad behaviors and always claim they are newbies. There are some kinds of mistakes that if newbies make, senior ranks will overlook them and just correct them without criticism, but if the behavior is too bad, they need to be attacked.


either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No
It is not everyone that has to be a graduate, but the truth is that you must know how to read and write if you want to be part of cryptocurrency and be successful. However, if someone knows that he or she is poor in English, the best way is to involve themselves in local boards and avoid other boards that deal with pure English.
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Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.
I am a beginner myself and haven’t had some of these energies or been attacked for asking questions either in my responses or a thread I created. In fact, I can speculate that not everyone here in this forum are graduates or have some degree form college and not everyone here are native English speakers but still, we are all here trying to share ideas. That’s what is really important, sharing ideas and in doing so, you really can’t decide on how certain words would be dished out.

I see what reasons you’ve outlined in OP to have been examples of how these attacks are presented and there isn’t anything wrong with being told your post isn’t in the right place, don’t belong, is of low quality or constitutes a poorly formed English. Let’s not forget that the most we do here is read and we could decide to read and see the positive in some of these or just get enraged because our views weren’t welcomed in all its wholesomeness.

There is nowhere that is stated that everyone must be a graduate to be knowledgeable. Knowledge isn’t only gotten from attending college and the four walls of the college isn’t closed from anyone. If you’ve got resources enough to attend, then you do so. There are even those that have got these resources and still choose not to. In all, there is room for self development and getting offended if you aren’t corrected in the tune that might be pleasing to you is one means to stray from the part of taking that correction.
You might be like, okay, this guy wasn’t nice and so am not taking his words for shit but, that’s really you shitting yourself.

I try to understand approaches, I know it’s importance but, don’t get carried away by wanting everyone to please you, we aren’t the same, have different training and cultural backgrounds. We just keep learning from each other and mange ourselves in the process.
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