Topic: Does it mean the poor can't breath anymore? - page 4. (Read 698 times)

I know how you are feeling right away and to crown it all most of the things you said is correct based on how everyone started as newbie nobody here started as hero or Legendaries, If you look very well you would see that many people start very small and grow bigger in rank and in knowledge, and what are passing to you here is the knowledge they had from their beginning so if they are talking at least there should be a ton of respect and loyalty.

Even though what they are saying is not pleasing to you, you can at least read and do more research because they have experience in the forum and in bitcoin and any other cryptocurrencies as well.

No one is limiting you and nobody is controlling your, here is a general forum that is open to everyone and you must learn to be strong to accept any form of criticism from anyone out here because we are of many kinds from various entities with different behavior and characters sho you don't expect everyone to reason as you rather than you trying to comport yourself more better and join train move on.

Ops is a good example of such newbies who make the presence of the genuine newbies almost impossible to notice, and beginner and help section being flooded with fake thread and formulated lies which can be spotted from a distance.


No one have problems with newbies, and besides again why should the ops refer to newbies as poor in the topic title it already shows how low he have degenerated newbies so let start from there.

And here you are complaining with words that are unreasonable. You are trying to make a point here of which I'm sure others would have given ears but you trying to insult others with your post, looks even annoying. Yes every high ranked member you find on this forum, didn't just pop out of no where. We were ones newbies with little or no knowledge. But what do you think got us this far? Complains? Any newbie that is ready to learn, would be able to differentiate when a old member is correcting him and insulting him. And I haven't seen any such post where members use insulting words on newbies.

It might seem to you like insult or whatever you call it. But if you are ready to learn, you will try to find your errors so next time you won't repeat. Like you said senior member telling a newbie about posting on the wrong board. If that newbie is wise, next time he would be able to Know on which board to create such post.

This is a public forum. You should not expect everyone to be nice to you. Only a deluded person will think that other people will be nice and warm to them. On top of that this is an anonymous public space where people can say what to like in a hostile manner and will not think of how hurt the other person will feel. But then who cares. Caring only makes you weak, ain't nobody's mama right here, we all gotta develop very think skin and toughen up.

The best come back for all of this is spend time reading about the forum. Study users profile especially those high ranking users. Study their posts patterns their reply, patterns. Knowledge is the most power tool you can wield in any space and with it, you will command respect. That doesn't mean that the harsh comments will seize, it only means that you will have been so bad ass that you wouldn't give two fucks for the sake of knowledge you have acquire and still acquiring.

Re-read the few lines that I ruled out, how does that sound to you ?! Huh? You want people not to attack you when you already attack yourself? Bro you gotta take chill pill from all this because you already contradicted your content by using hate words which is your advocate below.
I will only let you know that the forum has some prerequisites that one must follow and when you begin to step out side the box and you're corrected because of the Ego in you, you will interpret it as an insult to your personality. Perhaps your educational qualification doesn't apply here, your social status doesn't apply, you class doesn't apply here so you gotta be humble and take words likely because it doesn't remove an hair on your skin.

A lot of legendary members of the forum love genuine contributions not people with so much pride of nothing. I think you have provoked some users with this post already. In the meta board some newbie or member rank also created a thread complaining the same thing as yours and do you know that repeating of this same content pisses some people up? I guess No!

Don't mind my ranks as a full member I'm also a newbie like you. A lot of newbies don't take as advises from people like me because of the rank sentiment I don't know about you but I will only advise you to relax and enjoy the process it's more like a rite of passage, you have to go through all this to belong here. Grow a tough skin as Mia Chloe said above.

I don't see this as an attack, but a correction on which board your post belongs to, so that you can learn and know the right board to post your topic next time.

Since you are in a public forum, you should try and have a thick skin so that you don't get hurt easily.

You are right on this, but at the same time you should know that, this forum have people from different countries, different family backgrounds and different upbringing. This makes it to have people with different characters and manners of approach to same topic or issue. Also sometimes, what the poster said and his word i.e their expression can still be misunderstood thinking that he is attacking the newbie of which the poster did not mean it like that.

As a matter of fact, it is not only newbies that are being attacked, even high ranking members are also attacked when they say something wrong. We are here to learn, share ideas and information so that should be the main focus.

Your title should be 'does it mean that newbies can't breath anymore' and not the poor because your thread is talking about newbies, and some newbies are rich, it is not compulsory to be in a signature campaign before you think that person is rich.

Right, everyone starts somewhere. Offering guidance and constructive criticism can go a long way in helping newcomers find their footing.

Fake newbies who were only after the merits clutter the forum, making it harder to find genuine questions. But a true newbie shouldn't be penalized just for trying to understand.
Newcomers shouldn’t be afraid to ask questions, but they should try their best to search for answers first. If you can't find what you're looking for, phrase your question clearly and politely.

This community thrives on open communication and shared knowledge.

I'm sure when newbies ask a genuine question even it's low quality, broken English etc, people won't attack them. There's a difference between real newbie and fake newbie, some people can know the signs.

Let's say you notice there's a fake newbie create a thread asking about forum rules, what would you reply?

Wait, so this is not an attack?

OP, You can actually pass your message without those foul words, because how are you different from the people you are complaining about, "he who comes to equity must come with clean hands" they say.

However is not everybody that contribute to the community is a graduate, the forum is for everybody but you most post in simple and correct English except you are in your local board. More so if a newbie makes a mistake, it is inherent on the experience members to correct that person and point out where the errors are, that for me shouldn't be seen as an attack, because it is those corrections that will help shape the mindset of those newbies and invariably help them to understand how the forum works.

Merits doesn't affect people except for someone who is longing to rank to join campaign, without campaign I don't think desperate newbie would be eager to create post that looks like merits fishing topic, but again why would those who have merits hold their merits?
Of course if someone is creative enough then merits could start flowing seriously without them being affected. At least I have gain little message from some of the reply down there, and that is overlooking some people and learn secretly without even haven to compete with any person irrespective of their rank also developing a thick skin to sail completely here. I know you are reputable user and I respects your words.

Who is being attacked and who is attacking, where is the proof if a higher ranking member attacks a Newbie who doesn't know how to understand the forum?

Newbies who join here are always greeted with a friendly attitude, higher ranking members always take the time to guide Newbies to understand how the forum works and prevent them from carrying out various prohibitions. You cannot dictate to someone what you want, someone's character and way of educating are certainly difference.

Everyone has a different way of teaching members who have just joined the forum. There are those who immediately criticize every mistake so that the same mistake doesn't happen again, there are also those who guide them gently by directing them to threads or sources that can increase their insight. But believe me, no one discriminates against anyone here, everyone has a different way of giving input to Newbies, but they have the same goal.

They can get many things without asking.

Newbies - read before posting is a big thread to many helpful topics. With these helpful topics, if newbies can read, they will find many information, answers for their curiosity.

Some corrections appear like an insult to many, depending on how the reader pictures the phrase, although I can't argue that some members don't insult newbies. Everyone must not like your first appearance—that one thing we all need to have at the back of our minds. 
 
I have read about this newbie correction of a thing in multiple threads here in this forum, and this won't be the last. On the aspect of English, yes, everyone must not be a graduate. English is also not a mother tongue to all, but we should try as much as we can to present our sentences in at least a readable manner, knowing fully well that what they post is for the public to read and not only for the writer. 
 
Even if you are not good at your English, you can still produce organic content, and people will appreciate it. It's not always about correct English; you can still speak all the good English and still get badmouthed.
 
The best way to learn in this forum, which I have accepted, is to overlook what I could accept if corrections were necessary. As I have read in one old thread, I can't remember the name of the member who made that statement. The statement goes like this: "You need to grow thick skin if you want to grow here in this forum." 
 
In summary, those hate words can't necessarily stop, especially when some of our newbies present themselves as assholes; they don't want to learn, and all of that means we can't expect everyone to be calm in a community with 56,000+ active members. Some will definitely display their real character, and you will come across some who might be on their bad days. 
 
And just so you know, not all newbies complained of being attacked; in fact, some of them are now figures to others due to how quick they are to learn and the things they have to offer. All fingers are not equal, but being the shortest one shouldn't be anyone's desire.

Every user here was once a newbie who gradually ranked up either by airdropped merits plus required activity or earned merit and activity. I am not saying that there are users here that don't attack newbies posts, rather I am saying isn't it better to improve your post quality so it is almost impossible to attack? If you are dishing out real quality, then other user will begin to reckon you. Instead of improving their post quality a majority of newbies would make posts complaining about how higher ranked users are being harsh on them.

In my opinion, by now I will consider posts of complaints as spam because it's more like an excuse newbies make thinking it would help but it doesn't change a damn thing.

And as for this I would repeat what LoyceV usually says, which is learn to grow a thicker skin. why let someone you can't see and you don't even know piss you off?

People here don't have problem with new people that are asking genuine newbie questions (on the contrary) but are sick of fake newbies that make majority of those kind of merit fishing threads, hence you can sometime see them being more hostile.

Yes I have read some post where some of the beginner are mostly being attack due to inability to understand how the forum works, and for them to ask some question they needs clarification but at last got attack. I am not against of anyone attacking each others but let it be a way that everyone including the newbie has some little air space to breath than in every single discussion you would see those who calls themselves overall rank would come attack, either by saying your post doesn't belong here and there, low quality post, lack of English, poor English, etc. okay, must everyone be a graduate as you are? No

So, Yes they are new people I know they are and (you that is reading this post were once a newbie) and as then you didn't know it all right? Even if one happens to go check your post history there would be lot lapse and mistake on your profile which would contain lot of shit-post and you started from a step before what so called rank you have achieved currently that is ringing your f**king brain as  if you are superior to everyone. My dear you gat f**k down your anus and give people space to understand forum gradually with the way they think is best for them, correct people but no attack if you are attacking then what true messages are you passing after knowing the true vision bitcoin and it's representatives.

Correct without hate words, learn without getting offense and speak with love. By so doing everyone would be welcomed to the community!
Thank you all.