Does martingale really works? - page 11.

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Quote from: kreskko on August 03, 2016, 01:48:35 PM

Quote from: deisik on August 03, 2016, 11:38:21 AM

Quote from: Lexiatel on August 03, 2016, 11:03:48 AM

Only if you have a high enough balance and start at a low enough bet. It also depends on what win percentage you start at. You can lose a whole lot at low win percent.

I have my own system that works real well, but it doesn't coincide with the dice auto betting system-- and I wouldn't trust it to. I haven't bet millions, simply because I don't feel I have enough, but I will try when I do

Whatever you are trying to do has already been tried and it didn't work out

If you do not understand the essence of the game, for a start it is not necessary to play the big bets. It is better to understand at first, and only then begin to seriously. But this is a long time.

In this case, there is no sense to begin at all since you will always be playing a losing game (even if you win sometimes). The longer you play, the higher are the chances of losing all you have. If you start small, you will just last a little longer, but the end will be the same no matter what. As simple as that...

Your only chance is to find a bug and exploit it until it is fixed and you are banned, lol

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Quote from: deisik on August 03, 2016, 11:38:21 AM

Quote from: Lexiatel on August 03, 2016, 11:03:48 AM

Only if you have a high enough balance and start at a low enough bet. It also depends on what win percentage you start at. You can lose a whole lot at low win percent.

I have my own system that works real well, but it doesn't coincide with the dice auto betting system-- and I wouldn't trust it to. I haven't bet millions, simply because I don't feel I have enough, but I will try when I do

Whatever you are trying to do has already been tried and it didn't work out

If you do not understand the essence of the game, for a start it is not necessary to play the big bets. It is better to understand at first, and only then begin to seriously. But this is a long time.

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Quote from: Lexiatel on August 03, 2016, 11:03:48 AM

Only if you have a high enough balance and start at a low enough bet. It also depends on what win percentage you start at. You can lose a whole lot at low win percent.

Let's do the math.

Assuming by staking amount to be 5 BTC

Starting a low enough bet at 0.10 with win rate of 50%

Roll 1 :Assuming [Win] 0.10*1.87 =0.187 [win]

Roll 2 : Assuming [Loss]0.187-1.87=0.0 [loss]

Roll 3 :Staking 0.10 more [win]0.10*1.87=0.187[win]
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End of loop.
That strategy is nothing but the waste of time.As you see for a player staking as high as 5 bitcoins,he'd probably be surrounded with low wins all the time taking ages even to make half of what's being staked.Don't forget provable fairness.

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Quote from: Lexiatel on August 03, 2016, 11:03:48 AM

Only if you have a high enough balance and start at a low enough bet. It also depends on what win percentage you start at. You can lose a whole lot at low win percent.

I have my own system that works real well, but it doesn't coincide with the dice auto betting system-- and I wouldn't trust it to. I haven't bet millions, simply because I don't feel I have enough, but I will try when I do

Whatever you are trying to do has already been tried and it didn't work out

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Quote from: Lexiatel on August 03, 2016, 11:03:48 AM

Only if you have a high enough balance and start at a low enough bet. It also depends on what win percentage you start at. You can lose a whole lot at low win percent.

I have my own system that works real well, but it doesn't coincide with the dice auto betting system-- and I wouldn't trust it to. I haven't bet millions, simply because I don't feel I have enough, but I will try when I do.

In truth, be a wise and ungreedy gamber: stop at a certain loss, stop at a certain win.

I do not know what to say. More than once he was a witness and have a bad experience, that the casino is always a waste of money. Perhaps there are small vyigrasha, but nada to zero because of the inability to stop in time.

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Only if you have a high enough balance and start at a low enough bet. It also depends on what win percentage you start at. You can lose a whole lot at low win percent.

I have my own system that works real well, but it doesn't coincide with the dice auto betting system-- and I wouldn't trust it to. I haven't bet millions, simply because I don't feel I have enough, but I will try when I do.

In truth, be a wise and ungreedy gamber: stop at a certain loss, stop at a certain win.

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Stop misspelling the name..... MARTINFAIL, that's how it's called.

This is a 'genius method' nobody got rich from unless they were really lucky. Imagine playing martingale in a casino with at $1 minimum bet. EASY WIN. For the house Cheesy

Stop asking for strategies. There's no such thing.. it's luck or nothing.

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Quote from: tspacepilot on August 02, 2016, 11:49:06 AM

OH no, it's the return of the "does martingale really works?" thread!!

Why this thread has to come back to life once a year and generate a million useless comments on a completely solved discussion, I don't know. Anyone know actually doesn't know the answer to "does martingale really works?" should just read the wikipedia page and let this thread die plz.

You could say this about 99% of threads on this forum, yet people will always want to post the same question over and over again because they are too lazy to search or do some reading on their own. It's sad, but it happens. Maybe better moderation is needed? I'm not sure, could also be a signature campaign spam type thing.

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OH no, it's the return of the "does martingale really works?" thread!!

Why this thread has to come back to life once a year and generate a million useless comments on a completely solved discussion, I don't know. Anyone know actually doesn't know the answer to "does martingale really works?" should just read the wikipedia page and let this thread die plz.

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I have tried it and it does not work.
All these games that you can apply this too are all based on luck and their is no sure way to win at them
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Quote from: saiha on August 01, 2016, 05:33:38 AM

Quote from: PeRo on August 01, 2016, 05:30:59 AM

It does work if you have infinite Bitcoins or something. I would not recommend using martingale ever, only if you plan on losing money. If you want to gamble play normally, not with some money losing tactics. And if you want to really gamble, you better play poker or blackjack, not dice and coin flips.

Well if that works only for those rich gamblers how about those small time gamblers that has only $50 maximum per day for gambling.

So, it is not going to work for them. And in gambling, for me, even you have your own strategy you are not exempted in losing because it is the gambling cycles goes on.

It certainly does not work for the rich are you insane ? It doesn't matter how much you have it matters about your % increase in profit. Obviously if you have 100k btc it will be very easy to get 0.05btc without losing. But even then if you go martingale every time eventually you will lose the entire 100k btc .

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Quote from: roadbits on August 01, 2016, 05:47:08 AM

Quote from: buddu on August 01, 2016, 04:57:47 AM

Martingale really works either in your favor or house but it works. When you keep rolling for longer sessions martingale which was working for you suddenly begins to work for house. When we are strictly playing with martingale we always are positive and hopeful for next roll. Most of the time martingale will bring profit to house not to player in my opinion.

Yes, This always favors to house only not players. Ans in Dice game I think no strategy will work. It is luck game

It is a luck against the house game. But luck is notoriously fickle while house edge is devastatingly persistent. You guess the outcome

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Quote from: buddu on August 01, 2016, 04:57:47 AM

Martingale really works either in your favor or house but it works. When you keep rolling for longer sessions martingale which was working for you suddenly begins to work for house. When we are strictly playing with martingale we always are positive and hopeful for next roll. Most of the time martingale will bring profit to house not to player in my opinion.

Yes, This always favors to house only not players. Ans in Dice game I think no strategy will work. It is luck game. So we have luck then if you play any angle you will make money. If you do not have luck then no angles can help you. So in Dice game better play with a small amount and enjoy this game.

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Quote from: PeRo on August 01, 2016, 05:30:59 AM

It does work if you have infinite Bitcoins or something. I would not recommend using martingale ever, only if you plan on losing money. If you want to gamble play normally, not with some money losing tactics. And if you want to really gamble, you better play poker or blackjack, not dice and coin flips.

Even if you have an infinite amount of Bitcoins as your bank it would still fail at some point. the reason is that each site has a max profit per bet therefore at some point a losing streak would be so big that the max profit for that bet would be reached resulting and busting. if that limitation didn't exist then yes you will be able to always win with an infinite bankroll.

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Quote from: PeRo on August 01, 2016, 05:30:59 AM

It does work if you have infinite Bitcoins or something. I would not recommend using martingale ever, only if you plan on losing money. If you want to gamble play normally, not with some money losing tactics. And if you want to really gamble, you better play poker or blackjack, not dice and coin flips.

Well if that works only for those rich gamblers how about those small time gamblers that has only $50 maximum per day for gambling.

So, it is not going to work for them. And in gambling, for me, even you have your own strategy you are not exempted in losing because it is the gambling cycles goes on.

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It does work if you have infinite Bitcoins or something. I would not recommend using martingale ever, only if you plan on losing money. If you want to gamble play normally, not with some money losing tactics. And if you want to really gamble, you better play poker or blackjack, not dice and coin flips.

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Why just martingale why not small bets on higher multipliers. If you choose for example 15X and play with same amount every bet believe me you have more chances to hit this multiplier. Martingale works for some people who play have patience and much money in deposit to afford this. I always try different things in dice and didn't loose money by going for higher multiplier so far as I mentioned above.

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Quote from: SAMKUSH on August 01, 2016, 04:37:58 AM

Yes, in the short term martingale does work. It's only as you start to use it more often that the house edgestarts to favour to gambling site. My personal favourite is 33% win chance martingale method. I very rarely use dice sites though because it's hard to profit in the long run.

Martingale doesn't work, eventually you will go broke. You need a huge bankroll to survive 15+ losses in a row which can happen. And if you have this huge bankroll your winnings are too small compared to your bankroll. Martingale is just another strategy to get you addicted to gambling.

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Yeah martingale doesn't work but if it will work if you are lucky all games in gambling are always depends in our luck if you are lucky while you are gambling expect that you can make a profit while you are gamble..

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Martingale really works either in your favor or house but it works. When you keep rolling for longer sessions martingale which was working for you suddenly begins to work for house. When we are strictly playing with martingale we always are positive and hopeful for next roll. Most of the time martingale will bring profit to house not to player in my opinion.

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