Topic: Does ranking not guarantee post quality? (Read 891 times)

When you say high ranked members are been lazy or feeling too relaxed to make post I personally will disagree with you, some of high ranked members who is not even in signatures are even making more quality post than some people, a quality posts is not about how ambiguous is your content or your composition, a quality posts from my perspective is a post that is very meaningful and is educating to others member's been a higher ranked or low rank, many older user doesn't been inquisitive to answer a question without understanding the content but newbies will make a very large post with a meaningless points that can not help in solving problems, so therefore we cannot conclude that those kinds of post are quality posts. Some people seems a large post especially newbies as a quality posts, from my theory if your comment lack understanding and direction is obvious that is not a quality.

I will encourage us to desist of making pointless comments that is meaningful with big comments, its better to make three to four lines comments with cogent point, what the forum needs mostly is to understand your point of view, not numerous comments without value.

Use the Report to moderator button if you find a lot of comments that have no value. In assessing a comment depends on the point of view of each individual, maybe you think it looks like nonsense, but not for other users. I can't force all users in the forum to respect my comments, of course they see a post subjectively depending on their respective ratings.
The level of knowledge of each user there is always a variation in the level of post quality, in discussions there are always suggestions and criticisms from established users to provide insight to users who have low post quality. This is a place to remind each other, the cohesiveness that exists in the forum has turned many newcomers into established users in the process of increasing account rank and improving the quality of posts.

I personally like what you said here because everyone is guilty of this at some point but from my understanding/research it's mainly caused by the real-life issue or emergency people are experiencing.
I could remember like 4days ago, I trying to make a post on this forum, and also really tired and feeling sleepy when I got home. I was composing the message and at some point, everything go dark. I press the reply button when I don't know what to write again cause sleep has taken over my brain, body, and soul. If anyone sees such a post they may have another impression.

It is not always about providing something for the community because sometimes it has to do with being relevant at some certain sub-thread which makes the merit source notice you and like your participation and we have a situation where some do this at their local thread.

Post quality have nothing to do with ranking.  A legendary who makes quality post and that always make research to give a quality can decide to stop doing what is his secret for quality post and start posting low quality because he stopped what he used to do that makes his post to be quality. A newbie can still give quality post on how much time spent on research to obtain knowledge.  Quality post is not by ranking,  it can come from any person,  low rank or high rank member.

You are not entirely wrong about that mate. There are some higher ranks that post low quality or no value posts or some might made some mistakes. Before, there's no merit system where it is required when you rank up right now and you can rank to legendary rank or whatever rank a forum member achieved before merit system is being implemented. Anyway, it is because of the rank that will determine your post if it is high good quality or low quality and it is all about how you make your post.

Sometimes I feel these high ranked members are just feeling too lazy because they have Been here for a while and they just say or should I type out anything they feel owning to fact they have been here for long time so no one pays attention to what they do since most of the snr gamblers here have so  already felt safe prior to the  past glory of theirs stay here

This will depend on each member. there are also many high members that also have good post quality that give us so much information and sharing.
But there are also many members here that have low quality posts, because sometimes, they are only filling the requirements for posts every week or monthly.

However, sometimes, some of them can be different in posting in every thread. Sometimes they can post good quality posts, but sometimes, some members are only posting in common or that usual.'

It doesn't really need to be like this. Because I personally also realize that sometimes I just make posts just like that. Sometimes I make quite serious and quality posts in my opinion.
but indeed, it is undeniable if we find many members who just post it. that's why, personally, I also have to keep up-to-date and improve my skills and post quality here. We don't need to doubt too much, just look at ourselves, sometimes we just post like that.
But then again, not all high members are like this. Because there are also many high members who make very high quality and informative posts that are very useful for all of us.

It's not always ideal to do the name calling.
Having to call some persons STUPID even without making any specification would be disregarding the phases to learning itself. I must su,echo individual here contributes asked in there level of understanding and knowledge on a subject and that doesn't make them stupid. It simply means, they are open to being enlighten the more on the subject and it's your duty to teach to them what they need know. No idea is just about continuation of discussion, it shows a course that needs improving on and not the purpose which you've tagged it.

I suppose you by now based on the content in OP knows well enough that, ranking doesn't get a positive reply to the question tag in your subject.

At some point, your observation is true. A lot are still incapable of making quality post and can’t give good discussion for everyone even if the position is merely on top. That’s because meriting system never existed before and by simply reaching certain number of post, your position will reach another level or rank. And so, the level of knowledge and experience of a poster is not highly required as long as you continue to be an active member and is consistent in your post activity.

However, with meriting system the only basis at the present, you can expect that those who have high positions are definitely those who made great and valuable posts that made them merited with their post activity.

Answering a question correctly is all about knowledge and experience because their is no way someone can answer a question correctly because without good understanding. A constructive post doesn't come out from empty brain, you most have wisdom before something good will come out from the person, i have seen a newbie who answered a technical questions correctly the reason being that that have the knowledge of anything technical and with having the knowledge it will not understand what the discussion is all about, is not that I'm arguing but just making my views to be noted. Thanks sir for your suggestions

Quality of a post is kind of subjective I believe and depends on expectations or needs a reader has. You can contribute to a solution in a problem topic with some details in maybe bad language that nobody has come up with so far and nail it. Is that then bad quality? I personally don't think so. I try to judge posts on how they contribute to the thread's topic(s).

It's not always the well structured and well written posts that contribute more. It certainly helps if you can express yourself in a well structured way and it makes it easier for others to follow your ideas and thoughts. But good structure usually helps because the more you thought about it the better are your thoughts laid out.

I find it crucial for a good contribution to a topic what motive a poster has. You have to ask yourself before posting:

• can I contribute in some good and helpful way to the topic?
• can I express my thoughts or details I know in such a way that others can understand it?
• do I add something good to a topic?
• what's the urge to post a reply?

Another thing is: do I have any plans and urges to rank up? If users have something like signature campaigns in mind to rank up for as fast as possible from the start of their forum membership on, then it's going to be a rough time for them. For that you need knowledge and eloquence, find the right spots to post and be a smart ass (in positive sense; you certainly don't want to piss people off). There's not much wrong with that, I won't judge.

If your primary goal is to participate in "forum life", make decent contributions, talk about topics you're interested in, learn things you don't know yet and don't want to be a dick or cunt, then you're likely not on a wrong path. You can be controversial, nothing wrong with that and controversial opinions are needed to shed light in every corner. What matters is how controversy is expressed, argued and handled.

Then there are posting requirements imposed by signature campaigns. Shall I call me "spoiled" since some weeks now? I hope not, I'm working on it. It's a fine line to walk. Yes, on one hand I want to reach the goals possible, those who provide the coins for campaigns have expectations, want as much coverage as they're willing to pay for, on the other hand I want to remain me, true to my own standards. Not easy, I can tell for myself.

Indeed, that's true. There are various accounts with much higher ranks whose post(s) don't make any sense. I might be one of them but It's okay, you do not get Legendary Rank without earning the Merit it requires and the activity. So the one who has spent his time, providing something to the community will only be able to reach the higher ranks.

Maybe you just see their posts in boards like Beginners & Help and Bitcoin discussion, maybe you visit other boards and see how the same people are contributing.

Disagree with you.

Knowledge helps you to have better ability to join discussions and to help other members to solve their problems but it is not enough. If you don't have a necessary attitude to write a constructive post, knowledge means nothing.

If a newbie is really learning, sometimes a post to ask for help can raise something really interesting, it means quality. You don't need to write posts to answers someone in order to get a quality post. Questions can be quality posts too as when you raise questions, you detect problems that might not be known by the community.

What I notice in ranking and post quality is that you maybe in higher rank and someone who is low rank have more quality than person of high rank. Post quality is all about your knowledge and experience you have on something, someone that doesn't have a good knowledge can not have a quality. When you read most of the beginners post you know that some of the beginners is writing good quality but the problem is that they have not be expose and with the continuity of good writing will make them to be known, ranking is different from quality because a quality writing come from brain and it may be low rank or higher rank person

The answer to your question is yes. If merit is the basis of ranking, then one could earn merits even if a user does not have a lot of quality posts. Some may buy merits from other accounts just to rank up, but starting as a newbie, it's kind of hard. Perhaps only a few are doing that, as the majority of users genuinely focus on the value of their posts to earn merits.

I know that merit should not be the main focus of joining the forum, but we cannot deny that some see the opportunity in joining a signature campaign, so they work hard to earn merits. Unfortunately, there are cases where, after ranking up and being accepted in a campaign, their post quality slowly depreciates. The good thing is that now there are campaign managers who continuously check the participants' post quality to ensure they maintain the required standard while still earning from the campaign.

Your statement is correct but is not all the time that one would spit out sense while posting, sometimes we all feel we're not making sense but to others we're making so much sense so you can't always judge everyone's comment, whatever you see as quote, comment or replies is just their own opinion, you have to respect that.
Ranking and post are just two different thing on this Forum and is not the ranking that's making the post, is the user so whatever comes out from his or her head that's what they post based on understanding, nobody is perfect.

Absolutely right. Not all those who have higher positions or those who keep on receiving merits are considered high quality posters. Some are actually making irrelevant post that are off topic or not useful in the forum. But since we ought to respect individual’s post, then we should not resort into negative criticisms but those constructive ones only. After all, as long they’re open for corrections and willing to learn more in the forum, then probably in the future they’ll be exceptional posters for real.

I think you bring up a valid point, yes I think that ranking does not really guarantee post quality. Do you think all Legendary ,Hero ,Sr etc members of the forum are good posters or rank up for their better quality posts? If you think so then you are wrong. Because this merit system did not exist till 2018, then ranking was determined based on posts only. So there are many accounts among those who ranked up or farmed accounts before 2018.
I think those accounts as well as sold accounts are only posting jerks to complete the signature campaign's post requirement. But currently, most of those who are ranking up they own qualifications, but that doesn't mean there aren't still bad quality posters among them. Of course, you can see that most of them who are ranking up are merit earned only from merit airdrops made the rank up. And it's not that no action is taken against such posters in the forum, action is already being taken, DT members are there, and forum moderators are also working. Did you know that out of 3.5 million users, 2.8 million user profiles are archived? Among them are not only newbie members ,higher ranks are there.

You're right on your observation. You should know that ranks don't determine anyone's level of intelligence, neither does the number of merits gathered over a space of 120 days which is demanded by most campaign managers as a part of entry qualifications mean quality. I've seen those without much merit but who have nice posts and contributions, the same way I've run into a couple of great newbies who knew what they were saying. Like I continue to maintain that meriting posts is a subjective thing, it doesn't necessarily mean such posts are exceptional. Only the person meriting them knows why they're doing so. It lies on individual's discretion.

Yeah, if everyone were smart and on the same page there won't be dissenting opinions and it will be boring. Just like society won't be wholesome if everyone were rich or poor. Both have to exist side by side.

If we will follow the standards, high rank members should be more knowledgeable and resourceful since they were able to receive a lot of merits from members who actually benefited from their post. That’s how it should be. However, I cannot deny that we are still seeing high rank members who are making low value posts and are not even skilled in conveying their message to other people through their various post. But be reminded that everyone is free to improve his/her performance in the forum. We just have to encourage them and even motivate them to be at their best version. That’s the essence why at some point, constructive criticism is a must.