Topic: Does this forum have bears? - page 5. (Read 5428 times)
I'm not even sure the term "bear" can even apply to Bitcoin. This is an emerging technology. The trading factor is really incidental. I would love to see the price of Bitcoin drop again like it did a year ago so I could acquire more, but I won't hold my breath. We won't even see a real market for Bitcoin until it starts reaching its potential utility which is still under development. The conservatives that advise about over-exuberance are certainly welcome to the discussion.
how can there be bears in this market? look at the past year for bitcoin
bears are only bears for several reasons,
1) they follow bitcoin and have no money so hate the fact that others are gaining from it,
2) bad at trading and always make losing decisions while holding their position would have yielded more profit,
3) want to buy in at a lower price
not to discredit lucif i dont follow his line graphing i just think the whole idea of it is bogus my image is just someone throwing darts around the current price and then connecting the dots after the fact and then relaying that information on, same premise of line graphing, Fortune telling and we all know how real Ms.Cleo was at the low low price of 1 dollar per minute
also agree with the post above for credible bears there are none cause how can you have lost within the bitcoin market if you bought 1 year ago and buried your laptop in the workroom and then come back today to find out its 10X its value?
in relation to the article,
DOJ did a very good job at stopping torrenting and peer to peer file sharing im sure bitcoin will be as easy to put out, Ban BTC in the USA? its going to take a friggen century to get something like that passed as a serious law considering it takes simple ones decades,
Price to 0? Sure thats definitely possible as well.. considering some of the most profitable businesses in BTC are only raking in serious money and are not just making their livelihood off bitcoin, as long as people rely on BTC as part of their income the price will be above 0.00
bears are only bears for several reasons,
1) they follow bitcoin and have no money so hate the fact that others are gaining from it,
2) bad at trading and always make losing decisions while holding their position would have yielded more profit,
3) want to buy in at a lower price
not to discredit lucif i dont follow his line graphing i just think the whole idea of it is bogus my image is just someone throwing darts around the current price and then connecting the dots after the fact and then relaying that information on, same premise of line graphing, Fortune telling and we all know how real Ms.Cleo was at the low low price of 1 dollar per minute
also agree with the post above for credible bears there are none cause how can you have lost within the bitcoin market if you bought 1 year ago and buried your laptop in the workroom and then come back today to find out its 10X its value?
in relation to the article,
DOJ did a very good job at stopping torrenting and peer to peer file sharing im sure bitcoin will be as easy to put out, Ban BTC in the USA? its going to take a friggen century to get something like that passed as a serious law considering it takes simple ones decades,
Price to 0? Sure thats definitely possible as well.. considering some of the most profitable businesses in BTC are only raking in serious money and are not just making their livelihood off bitcoin, as long as people rely on BTC as part of their income the price will be above 0.00
This article seems to contradict the statement of yours that I've bolded: http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-traffic-increases-40-in-half-a-year-121107/
I doubt that tactic would be successful
edit: Unless I misunderstood and you were being sarcastic
I think Cypher's list probably comprises close to all of them (at least the ones who are still around and post with any frequency).
Generally, I think people are not likely to retain significant interest in bitcoin if they think it's going to fail. And they if they don't think failure is inevitable, it's hard to be long-term bearish. That said, I think lots of us long-term bulls still think, at times, that the price has gone too far too fast, but that's really just a mostly-irrelevant short-term consideration.
Generally, I think people are not likely to retain significant interest in bitcoin if they think it's going to fail. And they if they don't think failure is inevitable, it's hard to be long-term bearish. That said, I think lots of us long-term bulls still think, at times, that the price has gone too far too fast, but that's really just a mostly-irrelevant short-term consideration.
(emphasis mine)
This.
Long-term, BTC almost has to be worth either a heckuvalot or diddly squat. Not much room in between, IMHO.
I'll happily be short-term bearish, however. Add evolve to the list of known Bitcointalk bears.
bitcointip Melbustus +BTC0,0025
I think Cypher's list probably comprises close to all of them (at least the ones who are still around and post with any frequency).
Generally, I think people are not likely to retain significant interest in bitcoin if they think it's going to fail. And they if they don't think failure is inevitable, it's hard to be long-term bearish. That said, I think lots of us long-term bulls still think, at times, that the price has gone too far too fast, but that's really just a mostly-irrelevant short-term consideration.
Generally, I think people are not likely to retain significant interest in bitcoin if they think it's going to fail. And they if they don't think failure is inevitable, it's hard to be long-term bearish. That said, I think lots of us long-term bulls still think, at times, that the price has gone too far too fast, but that's really just a mostly-irrelevant short-term consideration.
how can there be bears in this market? look at the past year for bitcoin
bears are only bears for several reasons,
1) they follow bitcoin and have no money so hate the fact that others are gaining from it,
2) bad at trading and always make losing decisions while holding their position would have yielded more profit,
3) want to buy in at a lower price
not to discredit lucif i dont follow his line graphing i just think the whole idea of it is bogus my image is just someone throwing darts around the current price and then connecting the dots after the fact and then relaying that information on, same premise of line graphing, Fortune telling and we all know how real Ms.Cleo was at the low low price of 1 dollar per minute
also agree with the post above for credible bears there are none cause how can you have lost within the bitcoin market if you bought 1 year ago and buried your laptop in the workroom and then come back today to find out its 10X its value?
in relation to the article,
DOJ did a very good job at stopping torrenting and peer to peer file sharing im sure bitcoin will be as easy to put out, Ban BTC in the USA? its going to take a friggen century to get something like that passed as a serious law considering it takes simple ones decades,
Price to 0? Sure thats definitely possible as well.. considering some of the most profitable businesses in BTC are only raking in serious money and are not just making their livelihood off bitcoin, as long as people rely on BTC as part of their income the price will be above 0.00
bears are only bears for several reasons,
1) they follow bitcoin and have no money so hate the fact that others are gaining from it,
2) bad at trading and always make losing decisions while holding their position would have yielded more profit,
3) want to buy in at a lower price
not to discredit lucif i dont follow his line graphing i just think the whole idea of it is bogus my image is just someone throwing darts around the current price and then connecting the dots after the fact and then relaying that information on, same premise of line graphing, Fortune telling and we all know how real Ms.Cleo was at the low low price of 1 dollar per minute
also agree with the post above for credible bears there are none cause how can you have lost within the bitcoin market if you bought 1 year ago and buried your laptop in the workroom and then come back today to find out its 10X its value?
in relation to the article,
DOJ did a very good job at stopping torrenting and peer to peer file sharing im sure bitcoin will be as easy to put out, Ban BTC in the USA? its going to take a friggen century to get something like that passed as a serious law considering it takes simple ones decades,
Price to 0? Sure thats definitely possible as well.. considering some of the most profitable businesses in BTC are only raking in serious money and are not just making their livelihood off bitcoin, as long as people rely on BTC as part of their income the price will be above 0.00
We keep them well fed. Please keep your hands clear of their cages. If you play a nice upbeat tune, they may dance for you, but normally they just growl a lot. 
Unfortunately, there are not really any credit worthy bears that are willing to put their money where their mouth is.
Being short Bitcoin is a very very financially dangerous proposition. I would love to help skin some bears.
For example, I would love to help broker a 100,000+ BTC short contract with one that has sufficient collateral (perhaps a piece of real estate with about $2-6m of equity or a guaranteed letter of credit?) to post.
Being short Bitcoin is a very very financially dangerous proposition. I would love to help skin some bears.
For example, I would love to help broker a 100,000+ BTC short contract with one that has sufficient collateral (perhaps a piece of real estate with about $2-6m of equity or a guaranteed letter of credit?) to post.
yes
lucif
proudhon
adam
ElectricMucus
sublime
i'm probably missing a few.
lucif
proudhon
adam
ElectricMucus
sublime
i'm probably missing a few.
I want to read some negative outlook on bitcoin. The only thing I've seen for this was the recent article by Mencius Moldbug titled "How Bitcoin Dies". Does this forum have bears, or are there some epic bear posts somewhere I can read? It makes sense that the bears would not be motivated to stick around posting on a forum about an idea they think will fail, especially with the difficulty in short selling. But they must have SOME good posts.
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-bitcoin-dies.html
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-bitcoin-dies.html
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