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February 28, 2023, 01:00:01 AM
Thank you all for your outputs. We all have our own opinion about how does being positive and composed all the time, like you are playing for fun affects the outcome of your bets.
Some thinks it didn't matter and some thinks it does, either of the two the main goal for gambling is to have fun and win of course. In my own experience I thought it's really difficult not to be concerned about winning than having fun.
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Actually I have applied this a long time ago, but when I say that sometimes people misunderstand what I am saying, they actually accuse us of being like rich people who waste money to have fun at the gambling table even though that is not the intention.

We should maintain a mindset so that we are not obsessed with winning and are more relaxed about having fun so that when we lose, we are not too curious and continue to play spending money and then become an addict, this is a powerful way to avoid addiction as well and it all starts with how we play and mindset
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So i wanted to share the things i have noticed before when i was regularly visiting a land base casino during weekend and sometimes after work. I have noticed several times when a person was winning more than the usual in poker, i usually approach that person after he left the table what was his secret for those wins, i was literally surprised because 7 of 10 people whom i have asked answered they play gambling trying not to win but to have fun after a long tiring week of work or business.

Does anyone of you thought that playing for fun helps you think better and win with less effort especially in poker than having the mindset of trying to win? Because when you are trying your hard to win, it will make you overthink and that your mental state will get stressed out.
I think this will work for both land base and online casinos.
It's all about suggestions, so even if you gamble with the aim of having fun, it doesn't guarantee that you will get a profit.
then never expect a profit, you are aiming for fun then profit or winning is just a bonus to take right?


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I believe the person you are asking does not represent the context of winning but rather controlling gambling which encourages one not to be addicted.
then the approach is best for everyone that can take the advise and use it for their own benefits.


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With the aim of having fun, winning or losing will make you freer, there is no pressure and you don't demand anything because from the start you are prepared for the risk of losing.
losing is a part of gambling and actually? 70-90% of your gambling activities will be losing and that is the sad reality here.
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Does anyone of you thought that playing for fun helps you think better and win with less effort especially in poker than having the mindset of trying to win? Because when you are trying your hard to win, it will make you overthink and that your mental state will get stressed out.
I think this will work for both land base and online casinos.
I'm not sure if there's a mental or psychological explanation for that but I've been there and done that. The more I think about winning, the more I lose and I think that's fair and the same for the other gamblers out there. And when I yolo and think that it's fine to lose such bets then a sudden win comes. Yeah, I don't really know what's the explanation behind that but there's something that when we're expecting something, it doesn't come. And when we're not expecting it, then it comes. So, I'd say that it's helping me sometimes but it's a case to case basis and it differs from situation to situation.
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The best feeling on winning in a casino or any kind gamble is by doing that , i mean yeah expecting the unexpected to win big and collect it all in style , yet it's hard to do that.

Helping really , but not easy to go for it , very few im pretty sure.
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Gambling can't be considered as fun by everyone. Maybe 1 out of 10 might consider gambling as fun.
The majority prioritise it as a way to multiply the amount risked, though they've the right understanding.
People who have good money might consider gambling as fun, but the mind changes when they start losing.
Gambling with fun mindset will ease the gambling experience and make way for relaxed gambling.
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Yes and there's no explanation for this than trying it out yourself, gambling itself is all about fun, if you don't get the fun you can't have the win.

Crappy mindset for me. Makes ways to win instead and that would make gambling more fun. Don't take gambling just for fun literally even amid losses, it's just fine because you are having fun. Can't you imagine how much money you are losing now because of the mindset that gambling is just for fun?

If having a mindset to be serious about winning gambling, the profit will you make here is the reason to have that fun.

Gambling is not fun when you are losing. Smiley
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Usually gamblers do stop when they dont have money on their pockets anymore which it would really be that a very common scenario and this is why when they are winning then most of us would still continue to play

until we do bust up all of those balances.It doesnt really give out that more winning chance when you are playing yourself for fun but on general sense then it must or should really be on that way.

Gambling is should for run but gamblers are really that aiming for money.Poker on real or physical casinos are really that much better rather than on playing online.
It is really that on different ambiance when you are really that dealing on something on face to face.

this becomes a psychological problem, because they are not satisfied with just one win and want to win streaks. Instead of wanting to have a winning streak they keep losing continuously. and at the end in the last session they will be given a win to be able to believe again that they will be lucky. this is usually regulated by several online gambling systems. Each dealer will always have more profits, only a few players are given the jackpot to tempt other players to put in more money, hoping to get the jackpot too. The online gambling system has been set up in such a way that it's impossible to get a winning streak.
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Alot of progress can be made in Poker by not trying to hard to get the win every round, your behavior can become well too defined and helps to signal your opponents.  Indirectly of course you are giving them too much information about your probable cards by your behavior, combined with the cards known they can deploy inference and calculate better their odds of winning.   Never predictable in Poker imo, even sometimes lose a round if it helps that overall objective to remain elusive.
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I think it depends on every individual people or is it just a state of mind they get from playing gambling for a long time that they don't think they have to try their best to win. It's just that they have to play for fun because that's how they used to it for a very long time and they win perhaps they were lucky that day. I'm sure it's not always a win-win everyday but it's just that their experience from playing for a long time brought it to them to where they are now.
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I personally believe  that would not help to improve my luck, I would need to try.  Tongue
But it makes sense that if someone goes to gamble without further expectations, then they would get less affected in the case of a bad outcome and in the case of a good one, then it turns into a pleasant surprise.

Whether we are superstitious or not, we should always be aware that gambling follows the laws of probabilities and there is little to no proof our emotional state could change the results, however it can change the reaction we have on the results.

That's true, every game is basically determined by the probabilities/math that define it.

But, I have to say that there is a human element in the sense that you can stop while winning, or at least stop before losing more. That element can be changed depending on how the person feels at the time.

I reckon if someone is very happy they will probably be able to walk away with a moderate win for example.
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I personally believe  that would not help to improve my luck, I would need to try.  Tongue
But it makes sense that if someone goes to gamble without further expectations, then they would get less affected in the case of a bad outcome and in the case of a good one, then it turns into a pleasant surprise.

Whether we are superstitious or not, we should always be aware that gambling follows the laws of probabilities and there is little to no proof our emotional state could change the results, however it can change the reaction we have on the results.
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Playing for fun might help someone to win but the person should consider a big win a lucky day because playing for fun does not guarantee winning, it only guarantee not to get addicted if you have the right mindset.

Play for fun can be different too, some people can say they are playing for fun and also fun to spend high amount of money on gambling, that is a false sense of fun, it is not fun but addiction or irresponsible gambling.

Be it playing for fun or playing for anything, what is most important is to never go beyond your gambling budget, which means you have control over it.
playing for fun only opens you up to diplomacy, you learn alot of things from your mates, at the same time if you consistently play for fun, that's obviously an addiction, isn't it better you Chanel those skills and experience to the right source and make good cool cash.
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Actually in this case nothing really matters because it doesn't increase anything in terms of probability and win ratio it's just that there are other things because when we play for fun we will be much more relaxed and enjoy the game. This can actually be good mental health because the conditions are clearly very much different from playing a game that is only focused on winning and adds stress to the game being played.

Psychologically we will feel more relaxed, while doing a gambling session. because after all its original purpose is, just to have fun. the positive impact, we will not get high pressure that affects our emotions. however, that will not necessarily make us win gambling. be it a poker game as in the OP's discussion, or any kind of gamble. playing gambling just for fun, that's great. because we also do the same thing, also we will not target luck and win high profits. however, it has nothing to do with just having fun, we will win. Likewise in the game of poker, because after all there are techniques and skills involved.

As I said earlier, this does not increase the probability and percentage in winning but it does make you mentally and emotionally clearer because when gambling just for fun and putting aside winning even if it is desired is definitely the difference in this case.

Speaking of self-control, this can also be the key to keeping our minds relaxed because even though the initial intention is to have fun, sometimes we are always carried away in conditions where we are always cornered and lose so that the things that have been designed in fun are destroyed there.
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Depends on mental heath of gambler, sometimes playing poker or other table games may reduce stress so you can feel better for few hours. If person has stressful life having side jobs or something that he can keep himself busy may help a lot, gambling is for fun and that is why we gamblers don't try to lose more than we can afford to lose
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So i wanted to share the things i have noticed before when i was regularly visiting a land base casino during weekend and sometimes after work. I have noticed several times when a person was winning more than the usual in poker, i usually approach that person after he left the table what was his secret for those wins, i was literally surprised because 7 of 10 people whom i have asked answered they play gambling trying not to win but to have fun after a long tiring week of work or business.

Does anyone of you thought that playing for fun helps you think better and win with less effort especially in poker than having the mindset of trying to win? Because when you are trying your hard to win, it will make you overthink and that your mental state will get stressed out.
I think this will work for both land base and online casinos.
I'd actually say a person thinking of playing for fun would never think of doing it to win more, that's just contradictory. And no, I also don't think it actually helps, maybe a bit, but not that much. I've always played for fun without minding wins or losses all the time but I rarely get instances of winning more than losing. It's mostly breaking even at times really.

And besides, it's not just the "not having fun" part that could stress you out. Even you being rather competitive in games like poker just for the sake of being competitive ( which, honestly gets brought up depending on your character and not whether you're intentionally having fun or not) is enough to stress you up as well.
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Actually in this case nothing really matters because it doesn't increase anything in terms of probability and win ratio it's just that there are other things because when we play for fun we will be much more relaxed and enjoy the game. This can actually be good mental health because the conditions are clearly very much different from playing a game that is only focused on winning and adds stress to the game being played.

Psychologically we will feel more relaxed, while doing a gambling session. because after all its original purpose is, just to have fun. the positive impact, we will not get high pressure that affects our emotions. however, that will not necessarily make us win gambling. be it a poker game as in the OP's discussion, or any kind of gamble. playing gambling just for fun, that's great. because we also do the same thing, also we will not target luck and win high profits. however, it has nothing to do with just having fun, we will win. Likewise in the game of poker, because after all there are techniques and skills involved.

So, what you say is quite reasonable. we will be more relaxed and enjoy the game session. but with a note, it must always involve the controls and limits that we can afford.
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I believe it's just their lucky day and their mindset. Imagine going into the casino, and you are going to just play at the poker table and not having the mentality of "winning" the need to win feels, like it will just come naturally to you, and if you are lucky.

Additionally, the guy may be a pro in poker since it's more of a skill-based game instead of slots that are based on luck.
There is no way one will play a poker game with no winning mindset,  how do these guys come about with this analysis anyways because I can imagine having a losing or fun mindset before approaching the poker table.

-Poker games have a lot of activities that make it play aggressively so every player will have a win-win mentality, and not just seek to have fun.,  gambling entails two attributes, and luck is one of the essential attributes.
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Does anyone of you thought that playing for fun helps you think better and win with less effort especially in poker than having the mindset of trying to win? Because when you are trying your hard to win, it will make you overthink and that your mental state will get stressed out.
I think this will work for both land base and online casinos.
Going for that less serious approach helps a bit but it's not the best suggestion when it comes to making profits because winning still doesn't happen that often even if you have a fun mindset and at that point, it becomes a bonus given that your main reason for gambling is to have fun and get entertained. There's nothing wrong with trying hard though and you can still avoid stress and other issues that affect your mental health as long as you make the necessary steps and solutions while playing.
But, does winning come often if you have a serious mindset? No I don't think so. In gambling, house do always have the advantage. This is why the majority don't take things complicated because at the end, there will always be one result. Trying too hard can only lead to disappointment but if one is eager to earn a profit, there are still other things that they can do which are more surer. If they think they are skillful enough, why can they can they just apply that skill in trading?

I am sure that will matter a lot. You are right, winning in gambling is only like a bonus. It was like a token of appreciation for being a loyal customer to the casino because you need to spend more time playing before you can be able to win in gambling.
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Actually in this case nothing really matters because it doesn't increase anything in terms of probability and win ratio it's just that there are other things because when we play for fun we will be much more relaxed and enjoy the game. This can actually be good mental health because the conditions are clearly very much different from playing a game that is only focused on winning and adds stress to the game being played.

Indeed, playing for fun is one good gambling strategy that helps to ease the player's curiousity and place them in a state of mind that'll help a player stake a standardized gaming strategy, which is their own gambling secret. What they told Op, is the only  available response he deserves because if they had told him their real playing method he may not understand it, as he needs to spend enough time with the winners to grasp completely how they win games. Therefore players should utilize the famous strategy; enjoy your habit. Then curate a method that works, it'll be easier to win not just the house but our opponents in card games.
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